I have to put up with it at my parents' house every holiday. My brother's addicted to it too, and all he and my dad do is talk about their fascist politics. Being around my family has become a real chore. If it wasn't for the fact that it's the only time I get to see my niece and nephew, I would seriously consider not going over there anymore. You'll have to make that decision about your wife's family eventually. I hope things work out well for y'all.

...for forcibly being exposed to and saturated with RW ignorance at the same time. Ugh!

Hope you can come home sooner than later and get away from that.

My wife will tolerate me watching college football all day Saturday.
She will tolerate me watching NFL football all day Sunday.
She will tolerate me watching NCAA basketball when March rolls around.
She will tolerate me watching NASCAR and Indycar machines "going around in circles."
If I turned on politics on Fox... No, that she would not abide.

My sympathies on the loss of a family member. Grace in hard times.

Mine too.

But, yes. Part of why I married her when we were both 50+.

Fox is blind hatred and they should have been dealt with by regulators ages ago.

bar none...

I've experienced how it twists people. It literally makes people sick--warps their cognitive process and perceptions, damages interpersonal relationships. Destroys the most essential human qualities like wisdom, curiosity and compassion.

I even wonder if there's a correlation over time with physical illness, and if so, what kinds.

I experienced it close to home, too. Saw a real change in the person who started watching it and listening to Rush. Now, I will say that this particular person was pretty gullible and not very worldly, so someone like him is ripe for falling for this stuff. The worse part is that it does affect relationships and I totally believe health, too.

Yes, you can't even have a conversation with Fox "News" viewers because they have absolutely bought into the lies.

What do these three things, Oreo Cookies, Faux News, and Cocaine, have in common? They are all addicting and they all will rot your brain.

Personally I believe more damage has been done to human kind in the last 17 years by Faux Noise then all drugs combined.

I feel bad for its viewers the same way I feel bad for addicts. It truly must suck to live your life addicted to Faux. I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy. I have seen many a good person waste their life because of it. Just say no to Faux. There really should be a national F.A.R.E. policy - Fox Abuse Resistance Education.

they're from heaven. Heres proof

They can't rot your brain.

Brother-in-law found Pox on the TV and went into a trance.

Fox was on 24/7 everywhere we went. As non fox watchers, we were fairly shocked at the blatant racism and lies. We, of course, were aware of fox, but never this much exposure. Near the end, when the old man was completely bed ridden, I changed the channel.
Now, at home, my husband forces himself to watch fox an hour a day. His favorite is "The Five." He laughs through the whole thing. I told him his brain was rotting. He said he needed to watch because that was the crap he kept hearing at work. This year, he decided to retire.

Or do they watch Fox a lot because they are already like that?

how they already are and for some it indoctrinates them to be how they are. Strong willed people aren't easily swayed while on the other hand those of a weak mindset are. I'm strong willed so I won't listen to shit but my friend is right the opposite so he takes it all in. All I mean to be faux noise.

Just a moment ago the tv was on cbs and the today show had the PNAC'r cretin Krauthammer on and Charlie and the girls were laughing it up with the war monger. In other words it isn't just faux that does this shit.

Krauthammer was saying that the pukes would keep the house and win the Senate. I shit you not.

The tv is on how its made on the science channel now

The misinformation machine is in operation all across the media. And on the internet we have paid sock puppets steering the discussion.

It happened to one of my old friends from high school. He wasn't a bad guy when he was a teenager, but he was the type who never read a book unless he was forced to. After high school, he started working at a place where the boss listened to RW talk radio non-stop. He gradually started listening to Limbaugh in his free time and watching Fox News.

I went away to college for a couple of years and was shocked when I encountered this guy again. He was a hardcore wingnut who was basically a talking point regurgitating machine. He'd also grown a gigantic chip on his shoulder and blamed the fact that he was working a shitty job and not going to college on affirmative action and diversity programs rather than the fact he probably spent less than an hour studying the entire time that he was in high school.

It's shocking what all of that propaganda can do to people who aren't well-informed and don't possess the capacity to question and verify the nonsense that they go around repeating.

...and the only news station I got in my room was Fox. Desperate for a bit of information about the outside world, I tried to give it a chance.

That's when I discovered Fox & Friends (which in my mind, I rechristened "Fox & No Friends&quot . Even on morphine, I couldn't take more than about 5 minutes of it. I chanced it again 2-3 times and couldn't hack it.

It was actually Bill-O's constant protestations that the daytime news coverage on Fox is "objective" that led me to give it a chance; I knew better than to try to watch Hannity.

Seriously, I was stoned out of my fucking mind, and I still couldn't take the depths of rank stupidity coupled with mean-spirited mendacity I saw on that show. I used to watch Jack van Impe for laughs, I used to get a huge kick out of "christploitation" movies, I could even hack Pat Robertson's shenanigans. But not Fox & Friends.

good person!

"Seriously, I was stoned out of my fucking mind, and I still couldn't take the depths of rank stupidity coupled with mean-spirited mendacity I saw on that show."

In 1999 I hadn't had a tv in 10 years or so.. and then when I got one I was watching all these channels including fox. It took about two weeks to realize they were a propaganda channel and I never went back. And, then in 2002 I stopped watched all corporate news. Now, I don't even have a tv.

"rank stupidity coupled with mean-spirited mendacity"

nt

and comfort.

several years ago, a very dear friend was in a coma. I walked into her room and faux was on--I looked at the staff and said, "well, if anything were going to bring her out of the coma, having this crap on would do it." turned the channel, and told them it was NOT to go back to faux. so, thankfully, the last things sounds in the room when she died were from a gardening channel.

Grandma was relaxing, watching Jeopardy (not a bad activity for the elderly, mind-wise). He walked in, said hello, and changed the channel to Bill fucking O'Reilly. Didn't ask. Nothing. Just changed it and plopped down.

I didn't even know what to say.

First thing I do on every system. Then I throw away the parental control password so no one can get in and reset it.

No TV in my house will turn to Faux Noise.

We have no children in the house so this is the best use I have found for the censorship feature!

took it upon himself to change the channel to Fox, I'd change it back to whatever and as politely as possible explain that we don't watch that shit here.

I don't even have a TV myself, and I will say that when I visit someone and the TV is constantly on it drives me crazy, no matter what is being watched. Constant TV encourages a passive behavior that isn't good. I have been known, when at someone else's house, to turn off the TV if no one is in the room.

And the commercials, so loud! I know they are not as bad as in the past, but they are louder than the broadcast. I guess when you have that noise on all the time you get used to it.

to keep them from dealing with real life or having any deep thoughts of their own.

"or having any deep thoughts of their own."

I just got back from the dentist. That shit was on in the waiting room. At least the volume was so low that it was difficult to hear what they were saying. From what I could hear, they were hyperventilating over the ACA web page. It was sickening.

My condolences for the loss of your mother-in-law. Please give your wife a hug for me.

She replied that "the dentists are very conservative" -- I told her that not all of the patients are. I changed dentists.

I overheard him gloating about the "win" and that they kickedd out Tom Daschle from the Senate.

I left and I never went back.

Plus the root canal he did went bad. Now I'm missing a tooth!

you, LuckyLIb.. Changing dentists..

and he is just like that. He sat and drank and watched Fox and sports, constantly. Besides being an alcoholic he was out of work, out of money etc. I let him use one room to watch TV and blocked Fox on the other sets. I got a dose of it then and man oh man was I shocked at what they get away with. Not only that, they foment anger all day long.

I have watched it with family members. The anger coming off them is amazingly strong. I can't believe they are siblings raised in the same house I was. It is scary because no amount of facts will change their opinion. These are not dumb people. They are indoctrinated and I am at a loss on how to reach them.

All I see from the most extreme left news sources is stories corporate controlled media doesn't want to report. Not untruths, just unwanted ones.
It is only going to get worse as we push ahead into our Brave New World. All thanks to the best efforts of corporate investors and supporters who see no need to change things unless that change equals more money & happiness for corporations and thus, more for them.
Wall St uses all the money and power they command to present an alternate reality for investors & potential investors. From mass media to politicians, as long as you only listen and surround yourselves with Wall St approved media, you will never have to hear the truth of what all your money is doing for the planet. From climate change and ocean acidification to Foxxconn suicides and GMO foods.
If the news has the potential to give an investor a sad, it will not be allowed to enter the media cocoon they have constructed. All for the benefit of corporate loving Americans who are more than happy to support Wall St, as long as Wall St does all it can to shield them from the reality of their wasted lives and the wasteland they are leaving as a legacy.

seen this Fox News of which you speak. Seriously! I feel so lucky. I am so sorry for you and your wife's loss. My mom passed in hospice 3 yrs ago today. Not easy

waiting to take off and they had Faux Nooz on EVERY TV. Every fucking one. You couldn't get away from it. I swear to goddess I lost I.Q. points.

that might someday make some small change somewhere.

It is NOT just an issue of "oh, well, the 'other side' should be heard, too."

It was a Sunday afternoon and I flew in. I was literally only one of three people on the tiny puddle jumper that landed there. The other two passengers departed quickly, but the one TV there was tuned to Fox News and as I had to wait around 30 minutes or so for a taxi, I immediately changed the channel. The only other person in that terminal on that rainy Sunday afternoon didn't say a word, she seemed to have the IQ of a turnip from the constant exposure to Fox News and I was surprised that she let me change the channel. Not a word was spoken, I just changed it to something else.

If I go to get my car fixed and wait for it, I get to listen to Fox and the people who believe that crap. The Dentist, the Eye Doctor, the bars (if OU or OSU are not on TV). The only way to stay away from it is to stay home .

Like product placement in movies?

At any rate, I visited a local hospital that only had fox on it. Asked the receptionist if I could change the channel. She said there was an agreement with the tv provider. The TVs, she said, are free as long as they are kept on Fox.

Sorry about your mother in-law passing, first of all.

But when it comes to my Faux watching Reps, I just laugh at how stupid they are. Most of these TV personalities are millionaires who have gotten fat off morons like you who sit in front of your TVs 24/7. More often than not, I don't make it a point to belittle their tiny egos, but sometimes when they rub stuff in my face, like, "here look at this!" I have to. For example, a Faux Noise video enraging its audience about HR 347.

That Sandra Bullock movie. Well, this potion made it so your voice caused those within earshot to fall in love with you. But it only lasted a short while. A nefarious man figured this out and made sure Sandra would hear his voice several times a day. If too much time passed, her head would clear and she would be free from his spell.

I always think of this movie as a paraple of Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Fox News, and all the rest. So many people are hooked on these programs to the point that it's an emotional addiction. They need it like a junky needs heroine.

The high they receive is the studied and documented little euforic boost you get from hearing something that confirms your preconceptions and prejudices. This is the real product these programs offer. Not news and commentary, but drugs.

I worked with a guy a few years ago who would not miss Rush no matter what. If in a meeting, or walking a construction site, he would have a single ear bud plugged in, feeding him the message of the day. Thought instructions. It's a dependency that I find as fascinating as I do depressing.

I live in East Tennessee. If there is a TV on in a public place, there are only two possibilities. Sports, or Fox. My entire region is under this spell. Having a conversation with anyone about current events is surreal. People's information is so corrupted that it's impossible to even get past the ludicrous claims and conspiracy theories to anything resembling a legitimate discussion.

Forget meth country. First and foremost it's Rush country.

Years ago I read a commentary about Limbaugh & hate radio in general. The author stated that the Limbaugh types appeal to people who are down on their luck, & they are pissed off because they have played by the rules the authoritarian's told them too, but it isn't playing out like they were promised it would. You know, authoritarian follower types. The Limbaugh types tell them who to blame for their problems, the liberals, the feminists, the minorities, the gays, so they do.

I saw this happen to my mother. We weren't close, so I didn't see or speak to her often. She had gone through a rough spell & was bitter. She got a job where she could listen to the radio & she listened to Limbaugh every day. I'd say in 18 months I saw her maybe 2-3 times & the transformation was stunning. She passed in '07. I'm not sure our already strained relationship would have withstood the 2008 election.

Hate radio & Fox news are a cancer in our democracy. One should not be allowed to spew lies & hate on our public airwaves. If I'm still this side of the planet when Limbaugh dies, I'm cracking open the champagne & dancing a jig. The sooner, the better, imo.


My sympathies on your family's loss.

on edit: After reading the responses, your comment, "And the scariest part is the size of the audience being exposed to this of course..." is spot on. They are not just a cancer, they are a fucking melanoma.

He had a few women dump him, finally got married only to be dumped again months later. He became a truck driver to escape it all, and came back the next year a limbot. I had never heard of this guy and he talked about him like he had found religion. He never did remarry.

The #1 cause of the devolution of the nation as a whole over the last 20 years.

I have a no fox rule when we visit my in-laws. I just said I'm too old to put up with that shit and if they want to see the grandkids they will not have news (of any kind) on. It was always on fox but I really hate all tv news (local especially) so it worked out.
I really believe they have to have lost viewers after this shutdown. Even my in-laws said it was ridiculous and didn't like what the repubs did.
take care!

Cruel fate.

in the house so he could listen to LimbAAAAAAGGGHHHHH. Wasn't our house (it's my MIL's, who had just passed) and we had no idea if there was a radio, but we told him there wasn't one, sorry.

This BIL actually sets a timer, at his own home, to record Rush.

My friend and I just went to a diner that had Faux on the TV and we told them to change the channel because Faux is racist, and they did!

I'm sorry you had to be exposed to that pestilence. It's awful. I'm sorry too about your wife's mom. We are going through the same thing here with my MIL, who passed away a few weeks ago. Sending you and yours hugs.

Solidarity!

Blessings on you for helping her through her last illness and death.

Staying at my brothers, who had seven TV s running throughout the house ... all tuned to FAUX ....

What a sick fuck he is ... truly lost ...

My mom passed the next week .. also a blessing of peace ...

I've watched my brother--who has a chronic (read: pre-existing) condition and was finally able to get treatment for it when the ACA created incentives for smaller firms to offer health insurance--morph into a hardcore anti-Obamacare foxbot.

He posts messages on FB about how Obamacare is ruining America. Repeats Hannity-esque stories of people who supposedly had their insurance prices jacked up 250% or whatever all because of Obamacare. Posts petitions to recall Nancy Pelosi. etc etc

I pm'd him one time reminding him how he went without insurance at his crappy job for 10 years and had to go to Public Health clinics to get treatment, and how he was finally able to see a doctor and get a very expensive treatment thanks to the ACA, but he never responded. Oh, and he also posts about freeloaders who vote Democratic just so they can get goodies that HE and other Real American Taxpayers paid for--ignoring his trips to public clinics.

It seems like once they're in the spell, nothing gets through the filter.

the idiots at Fox during a time of such grief.

That said, I walked into the local Post Office one day and they had a TV posted high on the wall behind the counter. There was a long line of people waiting to buy stamps, pick up packages and the usual things we go to the PO to do. Faux Noose was on and much to my astonishment, nearly EVERY SINGLE person in line was staring up at the TV. It was like they were mesmerized by it. I just stood there looking at the floor and wishing that someone---anyone---behind that counter would put it on something else. I live in a very red part of Florida so I knew I was risking my safety if I had spoken up to ask for a change.

As for family members who watch that crap on a regular basis, they are beyond hope. My husband's sister is married to a guy who is a certifiable nut case when it comes to his political views. Before she married him about eight years ago she couldn't have cared less about politics. Probably barely knew who the President was. Ever since she married this guy (who actually is a pretty nice guy when he is not talking politics) she has gone right along with whatever she gets from Fox News. It is their GO TO source for information. Yikes.

She posts little snippets from Fox almost daily on Facebook. All inflammatory, racist crap. I have had to stop even glancing at them so I can have a chance to be civil to her when we get together for family gatherings. This is a problem and I have no idea how to deal with it. So I don't. I just pretend all is well when I am with her but it really has put a real strain on me since I know that nothing I say to her will ever convince her she has been sold a bunch of lies. NOTHING.

And that makes me very sad. We used to have such a great relationship but I fear it is forever marred.

Faux uses them all the time


8 methods
http://www.cracked.com/article_16656_6-brainwashing-techniques-theyre-using-you-right-now.html


The manipulator offers you a number of choices, but the choices all lead to the same conclusion.


The same idea or phrase is frequently repeated to make sure it sticks in your brain.


Intense intelligence-dampening is performed by providing you with constant short snippets of information on various subjects. This trains you to have a short memory, makes the amount of information feel overwhelming, and the answers provided by the manipulator to be highly desired due to how overwhelmed you feel.

Emotional manipulation is used to put you in a heightened state, as this makes it harder for you to employ logic. Inducing fear and anger are among the most popular manipulated emotions.


A good article:

http://lifehacker.com/5886571/brainwashing-techniques-you-encounter-every-day-and-how-to-avoid-them


Faux is a master of these techniques.


Sorry for your family's loss but
I think you touched upon something
that needed to be observed, discussed and then reflected on.... which is the fox news addict or cult member.

Surprisingly, I find a lot of material on cracked to be very insightful, substantially factual and just damn good analysis. I recall even some stuff on Frank Zappa (my lifelong hero) that i never knew and the stuff i did know was totally accurate.

I'm going to pay more attention to Cracked.

-90% Jimmy

go into interesting bits of history. There is a progressive-friendly tone to most of it. And the comments sections are refreshingly full of clever humor and lacking in the dumb-dumb vitriol you see so often.

where guests greedily consume the poison of Faux News along with their oatmeal.

It's like watching a group of aliens.

Her husband is a Teabagger and watches Faux constantly. She usually shuffles me directly downstairs before I have a chance to listen to the stupidity, but had to listen to the Affordable Care Act faux nonsense for a few minutes last night. I just laughed and shook my head.

oy. my condolences to all concern.

but we should be thinking about infiltrating. i was stuck in a room with IT sunday morning. i see they run a lot of infomercials. maybe we could find a friendly former cia guy to teach us how to cut frames of kittens and puppies into the film, then slowly work up to donkeys and obama.

I spent a week at my dad's house about 8 years ago and some LGBT issue was on the burner, don't remember which. It was non-stop gay hate and disinformation interrupted by occasional headlines of other stuff. It was mind-numbing and highly disturbing.

And you are right on the false equivalence. There is NOTHING approaching it on the Left. "Both sides do it?"

No. No, they don't. Not in the same way, and not on that scale, and not to the same purpose.

I have a buddy who watches all the time, and he thinks impeachment (and arrest) is right around the corner for Obama. He even thinks they're still investigating Holder for "Fast & Furious" and the IRS "scandal" is an ongoing case.

He doesn't understand these were fake scandals that have run their course because Fox keeps bringing them up over and over. The GOP did the same thing to Clinton. They soon labelled him "Slick Willy" because of his ability to somehow dodge one scandal after another. Once the republicans invent a strategy, they never let it go.

That mis-impression has been deliberately created, of course.

They beat that dead horse until it disintegrated. And they would have kept it up, if not for a real tragedy.

about Gary Condit. But Fox led the way, of course.

maintaining an electorate that never questions anything. The Republican base still believes there were WMDs in Iraq and Dubya Bush saved the nation.

Fox is always on at the car wash. I go about once or twice a season, maybe between 8 and 10 times a year.

It takes about 20 mins to my car, inside and out. I *promise* I couldn't take any more of it than that.

Fox is on everywhere I go that has a TV, the gym, the clinic waiting room, the mechanic's waiting room, etc. No wonder people, who are too busy to study things, are so indoctrinated. There really should be a law against unchallenged propaganda.

I go up to South Carolina a couple of times a year to visit my father.

He switches the tv back and forth from Faux to Encore Westerns all day long. When he switches to Faux, I go outside for a smoke or leave the room with a book. It assaults my eardrums the second it comes on.

He was down here a couple of months ago, and I had the channel blocked with parental control. When he wanted to watch it, I said I forgot the pass code. So, he turned on CNN, which is almost as bad.

sorry imitation of a cable new channel. Like you I cut the cord and no longer have cable and I don't miss it one bit. I can get all of the news and information I need online thanks to great sites like DU and others.

you have to deal with in your daily life are FOX/Limbaugh fans.

The other day I went to the bank to cash my check. So I pull into the drive-thru at the window closest to the building. All the other lanes are empty. So while I'm waiting a guy pulls in behind me. I see him in my review mirror and he is just seething. Again all the other lanes are empty - like 6 of them! I finish my business in almost no time at all and I'm about to pull away and as I put it in gear I look back and he's applauding sarcastically. Total douchebag I guess, must be a FOX watcher was all I could think of to explain his problem.

Based on the few times I've had to suffer through being exposed to it, I think i know why: They ( fox news / RW radio fans ) are emulating the big-name host's style: Forceful, preachy, confrontational, snarky, lots of rude interruptions, "gish galloping". There are people I know who weren't like this but now are. It's affected their overall demeanors to the point it spills over into daily life: Inexplicable bitterness out of synch with their actual situation, no sense of irony or humor etc, inability to deal with being disagreed with....even over stupid unimportant matters of personal taste...they always have to be right.

I've seen it happen. Friends, family, coworkers...........

Sigh

They are traumatized yet stimulated by the constant whining/outrage/predictions of doom/Et cetera and they want to make it stop but the only way to stop it is to turn it off. Someone really should study it.

Less that 1% of the population. There is hope.

http://stateofthemedia.org/2012/cable-cnn-ends-its-ratings-slide-fox-falls-again/cable-by-the-numbers/

The reality of the typical Faux viewers unreality is dumbfounding. I have known many otherwise bright and sensible people who buy into the Faux spin and it never ceases to amaze me. Obviously the Faux message resonates with them in some way, and it is always a huge red flag. Never quite trust someone again once I learn that they watch Faux for their information.

understand the effect of constant exposure to right wing propaganda has on people. My elderly aunt sits around watching that crap all day. My mother speaks with her on the phone for a few minutes every couple of weeks and reports that her sister has lost her sense of humor, is bitter, paranoid, and filled with hate. The right wing media isn't out to inform or to change minds. It's out to poison them.

Yes, there are 2 million people in this country that have no chance at all of recovering from this propaganda. I know many of these people myself. As I feel sorry for them, keep in mind there is nothing you can do or say to save them.

I say, get away. Get as far away as possible. The sooner, the better. I'd say your goal, is to find the way to get out of your wife's mom's house. Make that number 1 priority.

Good luck. May the force be with you. Do NOT sway to the dark side by this unwarranted exposure.

He was always on the conservative side, but a couple of years ago he lost his job and spent most of the day watching FOX News and listening to hate radio. I watched him change into one of those angry Tea People before my very eyes. Angry all the time, and blaming everything on "liberals". He once tried to convince me that it was wrong that everyone in the US gets to vote. All the usual nonsense from the right; Feminazis and so on. Then he quit talking to me, and I have no idea what he's doing now.

I do believe constant exposure to FOX News and hate radio has serious psychological consequences.

How anybody could listen to a second of their coverage and believe that they are "fair and balanced" is completely beyond me. They are nothing if not a 24-7-365 RNC Propaganda platform. There is NOTHING non-partisan about them. Every story/news segement is slanted as far to the right and against President Obama, Democrats, liberals, et. al as you can possibly get. If you actually were an uncritical thinker, you'd think that President Obama and pretty much any Democrat was a pretty horrible person.

The women all look like they went out of the house without any pants. Even in winter. They all sit cross legged as they star in an upskirt video.

Next, they'll report about a strip club and show white women pole dancing and then flash an image of some rapper who paid for lap dances to get the racist outrage going to 11.

every once and a while I stop in to get a burger to take to my desk. Just the two or three minutes of being exposed to Fox on the TV there drives me nuts.

When I don't want to be rude or confrontational with those around about their media choices, I tell them
I am finishing up listening to an eBook and I'll fill them in on the plot after I finish.

Usually, I am just listening to music or a podcast, but sometimes I am listening to an eBook.


Tikki

Faux is supplying the mentally ill, self-deluded criminals with the lies they want to hear. If Faux were off the air tomorrow, it would immediately be replaced by something just as vile. It's the people, not the propagandists, that feed the lies.

The sooner Americans come to grips with how criminal the entire R party is, the sooner we can start putting them on trial for their war crimes, sedition and treason.

your services.

Faux would lose a ****load of money.

...an intervention? Five days, I couldn't do five minutes!

I've watched about fifteen minutes of Fox News in the last decade or so, and that was enough for me to think, "You gotta be shitting me."

I'm Norwegian, but have several U.S. friends over here. A lot of them report that their elderly parents over there remain in a constant state of terror. Guess what? They watch a *lot* of Fox.

From the outside looking in, it all seems very Pravda-ish. Like from when I was growing up and we got to see what TV in the USSR was like.

you should have gotten a hold of his remote and used the parental guidance function to put a password on Fox News.

Very sorry for your loss. After experiencing hospice workers with my husband's passing, I honestly think these people are angels on earth...I really don't know how they deal with it every day, unless of course, they take comfort from the knowledge of how much they help at this difficult time.

Really don't know how you held up for 5 days with Faux Noise. My sister lives in Raleigh, and that's all she watches...even her husband watches Faux Lite (CNN) once in a while, and no one will ever be able to convince her that she's WAY better off under Obama's leadership than she ever was under Junior's. To top it off, my nephew, who beat Hodgkin's at 15-16 years old, was able to stay ON HER INSURANCE until he was 26, because of the dreaded Obamacare, and yet she happily voted for the man who promised to take it away. She's my sister...I love her dearly and would go to the ends of the earth for her, just as she would for me. I just can't figure out how her mind works.

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I'm also sorry that your time of grief was made worse by this ignorant political imbecile. I had a call the other day from my mom's seventy-seven year old sister...we used to be so close, and I idolized her. Unfortunately, she has become a rabid Republican who watches Faux 24/7. It makes me sick. The other day she told me that "they" are trying to make pedophilia legal; yes, really. In her world, public education and colleges are the root of all evil and are systematically ridding the country of values and morals. All the problems in this country started in the classroom and the campus. Of course, what Faux hates most is the educated and informed. BTW, I have spent my entire professional life in education, first as a public school teacher, and later as a college professor. I wanted to reach through the telephone and shake her, but decided instead that caller ID is my friend, and I can avoid this kind of affront in the future. I am sick that this once fine woman has allowed herself to abandon sense and reason and instead be a sponge for the fetid propaganda machine that is Faux "news".

Pretty sad and pretty sick if you ask me. Thank God many rethugs are starting to come to their senses and realize they've been voting against their own best interests.

After all, after a death there is a lot to be done, TVs can get knocked off their stands pretty easily.

And yes, I'd do it in this case. Let him live and breathe free for a few days without having that garbage pumped inside him. You don't have to say a word, just get rid of the propaganda for a few days.

My guess is that he'll either go crazy from the silence or begin to wake up. Or I should say crazier.

of volunteering at the VA hospital locally. One day while serving coffee, to patients on the second floor I stopped by Medical Practice
and had to speak with one of the staff members. The TV in the lounge was set, as always to CNN where people like to watch the news. One visitor stood up and went to the TV and started flipping channels and set it on FOX NEWS.

You never heard such a roar coming from those VETS... "TURN IT BACK, DAMN IT!! TAKE THAT CRAP OFF NOW!"... that channel was flipped back to CNN so fast you could hear the gears grinding!!!

that trash filling your eyes and ears.

I am sorry for your loss.

I do not understand why this ( restoring this doctrine) is not a priority. I do not want public airwaves used to spew hate, unbalanced, pure hate and lies. The people who believe these shows are mainly from the old days where things had to be fact checked by someone before they were broadcast. Or at least one thought that was the case. But now, what a disaster!

And not just because it's Fox, but because the TV does not need to be on every goddamn hour of the day.

I'm so sick of this, TVs EVERYWHERE.

But I digress. Try changing the station and hiding the remote. Seriously, though, ask him to keep it off so other people can have a conversation or maybe listen to some music. Whatever.

I especially liked: because the TV does not need to be on every goddamn hour of the day

I can't get over how many people are absolute TV junkies. If it's on TV, they'll watch it. Hell they'll have the damned thing blaring in the background just for the sake of having it blaring in the background. The same yahoos at work have to have the breakroom TV booming and it makes the damned place unhinabitable. I sure as hell can't eat lunch in there! My RW father ( and his 2nd wife ) even have this big goddamn stainless steel refrigerator.....and get this...with a small TV built into it! Just hanging out and talking while they prepare a meal you can't get away from the idiot box.

For so many losses. The loss of your mother-in-law and the loss of your brother-in-law. Because he is lost for sure.

I think, though, that people are looking to be the way they wind up and if what they are looking to be is racist and closed minded and selfish, then FOX 'news' suits them. FOX appeals to their basest nature and tells them that it is OK to be the way they are. They do not have to think or be ashamed...they can revel in their baser selves.

the bosses at work always have it on in their offices. If I have to wait for them to get off the phone, it is blaring at me. I always tell them that it is rotting their brains, but as the lone liberal in the office, they don't take me seriously.

But seriously, they are rotting their brains.

what else could you do? But, having been through a bit of that in own family...all I cans say is "You Did what You Had to Do." And hopefully it kept the peace so that your MIL's Memory could at least be honored. On those occasions where patience is sorely tried...it becomes respect for the occasion.... but ARGHHH... it's tough.

I never thought I'd ever see our families and friends all split up and torn apart the way we all are these days. There was a bit of that in the late 60's and early 70's...but his is far worse than I remember. And...it's really hard to deal with OR even understand when it's one's own family that this stuff could be going on.. :HUG:

and there are other family members to consider. Keeping the Peace to remember the Departed is a better way to deal with it...rather than more hard feelings. Touchy times with family when a death of an Elder is involved.

Not the time to stand up and "SHOUT...TURN THE DAMNED THING OFF."

Just saying. Respect for the Dead and what the Family Member would have wanted as peace in the family...would seem to be more important than making a stand against Fox News on such an occasion.

Got some great stickers from these folks and people have asked me for some....stick them on public TVs where they tend to leave them on Fox News.

"Bad news for America, Fox News."

Everyone has to pick the time and place and certainly a Funeral might be a place to just shut it out of your mind.

http://www.turnofffox.org/

Have you considered living in a tent in the backyard until you are ready to go home? Or a motel?

If they refuse, leave. I've left many restaurants, bars and other public places and made sure the managers knew why I left.

Murdoch identifies himself as a libertarian, saying "What does libertarian mean? As much individual responsibility as possible, as little government as possible, as few rules as possible. But I'm not saying it should be taken to the absolute limit."

Political activities in the United States

McNight (2010) identifies four characteristics of his media operations: free market ideology; unified positions on matters of public policy; global editorial meetings; and opposition to a perceived liberal bias in other public media.[98]

On 8 May 2006, the Financial Times reported that Murdoch would be hosting a fund-raiser for Senator Hillary Clinton's (D-New York) Senate re-election campaign.[99] In a 2008 interview with Walt Mossberg, Murdoch was asked whether he had "anything to do with the New York Post's endorsement of Barack Obama in the democratic primaries." Without hesitating, Murdoch replied, "Yeah. He is a rock star. It's fantastic. I love what he is saying about education. I don't think he will win Florida... but he will win in Ohio and the election. I am anxious to meet him. I want to see if he will walk the walk."[100][101] Murdoch is a strong supporter of Israel and its domestic policies.[102]

In 2010 News Corporation gave $1 million to the Republican Governors Association and $1 million to the conservative U.S. Chamber of Commerce.[103][104][105] Murdoch also served on the board of directors of the libertarian Cato Institute.[106] He is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations.[107] Murdoch is also a supporter of the Stop Online Piracy Act and Protect Intellectual Property Act.[108]

Murdoch is a supporter of more open immigration policies in western nations generally.[109] In the United States, Murdoch and chief executives from several major corporations including Hewlett-Packard, Boeing and Disney joined New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg to form the Partnership for a New American Economy to advocate "for immigration reform – including a path to legal status for all undocumented immigrants now in the United States."[110] The coalition, reflecting Murdoch and Bloomberg's own views, also advocates significant increases in legal immigration to the United States as a means of boosting America's sluggish economy and lowering unemployment. The Partnership's immigration policy prescriptions are notably similar to those of the Cato Institute and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce—both of which Murdoch has supported in the past.[111] The Wall Street Journal editorial page has similarly advocated for increased legal immigration, in contrast to the staunch anti-immigration stance of Murdoch's British newspaper, The Sun.[112] On 5 September 2010, Murdoch testified before the House Subcommittee on Immigration, Citizenship, Refugees, Border Security, and International Law Membership on the "Role of Immigration in Strengthening America's Economy." In his testimony, Murdoch called for ending mass deportations and endorsed a "comprehensive immigration reform" plan that would include a pathway to citizenship for all illegal immigrants.[110]

In the 2012 U.S. Presidential election, Murdoch has been critical of the competence of Mitt Romney's team but nonetheless has been strongly supportive of a Republican victory, tweeting: "Of course I want him [Romney] to win, save us from socialism, etc."

President Obama’s visit to Israel was such a success that Fox News is desperately talking about anything else, including calling for a boycott of the White House Easter Egg Roll.

Barack Obama had a wildly successful visit to Israel. Obama not only delivered an historic speech in Jerusalem. He also acted as a facilitator in the normalization of relations between Israel and Turkey.

The president’s visit was so triumphant that Fox News is desperate to talk about anything other than Obama’s time in Israel. Karl Rove and Bill Hemmer scraped the bottom of the barrel when they called for a Republican boycott of the White House Easter Egg Roll.

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While President Obama was receiving the highest civilian award in Israel, Fox News was running a commercial for their Sean Hannity special that declared Obama an enemy of Israel, “But with a friend like Obama are Israel’s enemies gaining strength. Sean gets expert insight on a special Hannity.”

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her Mom's passing.

So sad about the brainwashed people in this country who don't realize fox, limbaugh, et al are nothing more than propaganda hate centers for profit.

No one need wonder why Germany went along with the Nazis. All they had to do was control the mass media, which in those days was radio, movies, and newspapers.

The propaganda cover was so complete that my relatives, living in East Prussia (now part of Poland), had no idea that Germany was losing World War II, at least not until refugees from the advancing Russians began coming through their town.

So just imagine a country in which all TV is Fox News, all movies are "Atlas Shrugged" and "Red Dawn," and all newspapers are like the Wall Street Journal editorial page.

Instead of telling stories about other people's lives, the Fox News soap narrates the lives of the viewers themselves.

My condolences.

Sometimes I wonder the same thing... whether some of the folks that have been marinating in Fox News for so long can ever be helped.

For most of time that Fox News has been the media wing of the Republican party, (which it is, and that's ALL it is) they used to at least make a token attempt to maintain the facade of balance. Not that it was ever believable, more like the paper bag that a beer is in. We all know what it is but at least you're making the symbolic attempt to keep it under wraps.

They no longer do even that. They have boldly stepped into the open as the propaganda arm of the right. One would hope that at least *some* folks would have caught on and would have at least considered taking a peek through the blinds at the world outside. Unfortunately, that hasn't happened. The vast majority of them have followed Fox right over the cliff.

What is to be done? I don't know.

That is all.

it's been going on since the mid-80s and it's the taproot of America's decline.