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kpete

(71,996 posts)
Tue Oct 22, 2013, 09:59 AM Oct 2013

Obama & Reid: "We both came to conclusion that time had ended to be taken in by these crazy people"

"President Obama is such a nice man, just a nice person. And he became president during an awful time," Reid told HuffPost, measuring each word. "It is easy to look back and say, 'Oh, he shouldn't have done that, or he shouldn't have renewed the payroll tax.' That's all then, this is now. A different environment. I don't want to sound like a cheerleader for Obama. He can get others to do that. But he's a good person."

That July meeting ended up being just what the two needed. "That was good," Reid would tell his chief of staff, David Krone, who'd been waiting outside with top White House aide Rob Nabors. It helped lay the groundwork for what would be a critical -- and fruitful -- political partnership during the high-stakes budget fights this fall.

Each more mindful of the other's strategic vision, Reid and Obama made a mutual commitment to legislative stubbornness. A week after the meeting, Reid threatened to gut the filibuster if Republicans didn't let through a slate of executive nominees. Republicans caved. Looking forward, the two vowed to steadfastly oppose any effort to tinker with the president's health care law as part of a continuing resolution to keep the government running. And when it came time to raise the debt ceiling weeks later, they would refuse to negotiate altogether.

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"We just both came to the conclusion that the time had ended to be taken in by these crazy people," Reid said. "The president said, 'I'm not going to negotiate.' I said, 'I'm not going to negotiate.' And we didn't."


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/22/obama-reid_n_4136996.html
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Obama & Reid: "We both came to conclusion that time had ended to be taken in by these crazy people" (Original Post) kpete Oct 2013 OP
"Republicans caved" zbdent Oct 2013 #1
I thought the same thing Gore1FL Oct 2013 #23
Right the F on madokie Oct 2013 #2
+1,000 malaise Oct 2013 #32
NO negotiating with terrorists. AmBlue Oct 2013 #3
THIS^^^^^!!! calimary Oct 2013 #12
Rep. Steve Cohen from Tennessee said it loud and clear: AmBlue Oct 2013 #17
Why do some not understand who the domestic enemies are? They, domestic enemies, shall be known by indepat Oct 2013 #26
Neo-Confederates... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #28
It was past time! gopiscrap Oct 2013 #4
Reid's been rather candid lately and I like it. LuvNewcastle Oct 2013 #5
We've all come to conclusion that the time has come to call these crazy people what they are, crazy. Coyotl Oct 2013 #6
+1 nt ecstatic Oct 2013 #25
"The time had ended." Brickbat Oct 2013 #7
No kidding. I'm really happy this finally happened, but sad it wasn't 10 years ago. phantom power Oct 2013 #8
Yes, much damage could've been avoided Lex Oct 2013 #9
Or 30. calimary Oct 2013 #14
Read this yesterday. Happy to rekick and re-DURec nt longship Oct 2013 #10
Crazy people. That's what they are. And by refusing to negotiate AllyCat Oct 2013 #11
New policy for the White House ffr Oct 2013 #13
I'd like to point out: Crazy people usually elect crazy people. BlueJazz Oct 2013 #15
What took so long? Brigid Oct 2013 #16
honestly, it is a fair question Skittles Oct 2013 #33
Honestly, I'm wondering, too. Irrational people cannot be reasoned with. pacalo Oct 2013 #34
No kidding. WTF were they waiting for? harun Oct 2013 #35
We have all seen . . . Brigid Oct 2013 #36
I'd have given them to January 22nd of 2009 NewJeffCT Oct 2013 #18
Me too. I would have gutted the filibuster on day 1, left the republican children Zorra Oct 2013 #21
Amen to that. NC GOPers seized power and have destroyed... WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2013 #30
Hold that thought, both of you. You need to maintain that mindset for the kestrel91316 Oct 2013 #19
Good decision Liberalynn Oct 2013 #20
It's a very good read. Informative, detailed, well-written. nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2013 #22
Kpete, once again Duval Oct 2013 #24
Box 'em flamingdem Oct 2013 #27
Reid should have called them anti-intellectuals. Rex Oct 2013 #29
Argh! Why don't they stop saying "not going to negotiate". Say REnegotiate. cui bono Oct 2013 #31
About time! The adults are back. It's not possible to reason kiranon Oct 2013 #37
We can't look back and blue14u Oct 2013 #38

zbdent

(35,392 posts)
1. "Republicans caved"
Tue Oct 22, 2013, 10:03 AM
Oct 2013

when I got to this I had to look at the source to make sure I wasn't reading from "The Onion" ...

AmBlue

(3,111 posts)
3. NO negotiating with terrorists.
Tue Oct 22, 2013, 10:12 AM
Oct 2013

I believe the radical Right truly are domestic terrorists and our elected congressmen and women, and the President, should be doing all and everything to shut them down. NOW.

calimary

(81,322 posts)
12. THIS^^^^^!!!
Tue Oct 22, 2013, 10:59 AM
Oct 2013

And yes. I'm SHOUTING!!!!!!!!!

They ARE domestic terrorists. Nothing more, nothing less. Dealing with their primary weapons of fear and disinformation. Toward their primary goal - destruction.

indepat

(20,899 posts)
26. Why do some not understand who the domestic enemies are? They, domestic enemies, shall be known by
Tue Oct 22, 2013, 01:17 PM
Oct 2013

their works and the works of those of whom Congressman Cohen speaks are a matter of public record.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
6. We've all come to conclusion that the time has come to call these crazy people what they are, crazy.
Tue Oct 22, 2013, 10:20 AM
Oct 2013

calimary

(81,322 posts)
14. Or 30.
Tue Oct 22, 2013, 11:01 AM
Oct 2013

Too bad we weren't able to shut down ronald reagan. That's when all the seeds of this evil got planted.

AllyCat

(16,189 posts)
11. Crazy people. That's what they are. And by refusing to negotiate
Tue Oct 22, 2013, 10:54 AM
Oct 2013

we actually showed that the inmates are not running the asylum.

ffr

(22,670 posts)
13. New policy for the White House
Tue Oct 22, 2013, 11:00 AM
Oct 2013

IMO this.

Each more mindful of the other's strategic vision, Reid and Obama made a mutual commitment to legislative stubbornness. A week after the meeting, Reid threatened to gut the filibuster if Republicans didn't let through a slate of executive nominees. Republicans caved.

Keep the heat on them. Government cannot be taken hostage. There's work to be done and lives to be protected.

Brigid

(17,621 posts)
36. We have all seen . . .
Tue Oct 22, 2013, 11:22 PM
Oct 2013

That clip of Mitch McConnell saying that the main priority of the Repugs would be to make Obama a one-term President. That told us everything we needed to know. I guess Obama and Reid just thought it was trash talk. We knew better. I think Obama needs to have somebody on his staff to start reading DU.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
21. Me too. I would have gutted the filibuster on day 1, left the republican children
Tue Oct 22, 2013, 11:53 AM
Oct 2013

to whine and snivel into their Scotch bottles, and, in classic FDR style, got to work repairing the damage done during the Bush disaster.

You can't negotiate with a roomful of toddlers who are in the throes of the worst case of the "Terrible Twos" in history. You child proof the house so they can't hurt themselves, and then you finish your housework without having to clean up their messes all day long.

WorseBeforeBetter

(11,441 posts)
30. Amen to that. NC GOPers seized power and have destroyed...
Tue Oct 22, 2013, 01:45 PM
Oct 2013

DECADES of progress in a matter of MONTHS. It makes me sick to think of how Obama and the Democratic Party seized power, but didn't quite know what to do with it. So much MORE good have been done, with the country on its way back to fat and happy.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
29. Reid should have called them anti-intellectuals.
Tue Oct 22, 2013, 01:35 PM
Oct 2013

So glad they decided to tell the GOP to pound sand! Stupid people should never be in charge. Yes Dubya, talking about you.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
31. Argh! Why don't they stop saying "not going to negotiate". Say REnegotiate.
Tue Oct 22, 2013, 02:19 PM
Oct 2013

Not going to renegotiate. That's what it was. They just keep giving the R's soundbites. Dems really need to learn to play the soundbite and framing game which sadly exists and plays a large part in this stupid media game.

kiranon

(1,727 posts)
37. About time! The adults are back. It's not possible to reason
Tue Oct 22, 2013, 11:34 PM
Oct 2013

with the Tea Party leaders as their goal is not democracy or the continuation of the federal government.

blue14u

(575 posts)
38. We can't look back and
Tue Oct 22, 2013, 11:41 PM
Oct 2013


say what if...

We are on the path to progress and we all need to stay

focused on the future and all it can bring with the POTUS

and Harry standing strong together..

Lookout 2014... we are coming for those RW seats!!!!

Go vote whenever you have an election... Go vote!!!!

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