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Playinghardball

(11,665 posts)
Tue Oct 22, 2013, 12:06 PM Oct 2013

Outside the conservative bubble, GOP sustains epic damage

Outside the conservative bubble, GOP sustains epic damage

The Washington Post and ABC News have released a new batch of polling that shows in quite striking terms just how badly the shutdown fight has damaged the GOP.

The question, however, is: Do Republicans actually think it matters that their image is in such disastrous shape, or is that rendered inconsequential by the degree to which the House GOP majority is believed to be invulnerable? The numbers:

This line really jumped out:

Only 20 percent think Republicans are “interested in doing what’s best for the country,” while 77 percent think they’re “interested in what’s best for themselves politically.”

Are people finally waking up??

More here: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2013/10/22/the-morning-plum-outside-the-conservative-bubble-gop-sustains-epic-damage/

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Outside the conservative bubble, GOP sustains epic damage (Original Post) Playinghardball Oct 2013 OP
Recommend. nt Zorra Oct 2013 #1
Shhhhhh! They need to keep it up. corkhead Oct 2013 #2
A large part of me agrees! calimary Oct 2013 #5
K&R LuvNewcastle Oct 2013 #3
I wonder if these evil dumbfucks took social media into consideration before they pulled this stunt. Arugula Latte Oct 2013 #4
The same mindset that anticipated a Romney landslide Zambero Oct 2013 #6
Truth is, they don't give a rats' ass what all voters think. lark Oct 2013 #7
^^^ Right on the money oswaldactedalone Oct 2013 #10
All true, however, JNelson6563 Oct 2013 #11
YEP Cosmocat Oct 2013 #13
Exactly. HooptieWagon Oct 2013 #15
I like the sound of "Epic Damage" flamingdem Oct 2013 #8
Speaking of epic.... sofa king Oct 2013 #21
I'll say it again: I wish we were voting next month! City Lights Oct 2013 #9
i fear you are right. All the right needs is one BS issue to make them all forget. TeamPooka Oct 2013 #14
These are rather remarkable poll numbers. With numbers like these myrna minx Oct 2013 #12
You are forgetting all the DLC, DINO's, 3rd Way, New Democrats and other Right of Center RC Oct 2013 #23
Kick And Recommend cantbeserious Oct 2013 #16
K&R pscot Oct 2013 #17
Let them self-destruct. blackspade Oct 2013 #18
Sadly, though the polls confirm what we already know justiceischeap Oct 2013 #19
It's encouraging news; but, still expect an uphill fight! LongTomH Oct 2013 #20
I'm one of the 8 out of 10. ffr Oct 2013 #22
To prevent the American people from forgetting, they'll be sure to pull this shit again in 3 months. Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #24
If Republicans are doing what's best for them politically ... Martin Eden Oct 2013 #25
"Are people finally waking up??" Tarheel_Dem Oct 2013 #26
they passed all those anti women laws at the state level Liberal_in_LA Oct 2013 #27
The Religious Right is destroying the Republican Party RainDog Oct 2013 #28
Thank you Fox News!!! Z_California Oct 2013 #29

calimary

(81,322 posts)
5. A large part of me agrees!
Tue Oct 22, 2013, 12:57 PM
Oct 2013

I want to cheer and scream out loud, but it's premature of course. Hopefully we can let it all explode while watching some VERY satisfying election returns next November...

PLEASE GOD!!!!! WE want OUR country back, too!!!

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
4. I wonder if these evil dumbfucks took social media into consideration before they pulled this stunt.
Tue Oct 22, 2013, 12:38 PM
Oct 2013

The last time they did this crap Facebook et al did not exist.

Zambero

(8,964 posts)
6. The same mindset that anticipated a Romney landslide
Tue Oct 22, 2013, 01:06 PM
Oct 2013

Insular and delusional. A rude awakening is in store, indeed it is.

lark

(23,105 posts)
7. Truth is, they don't give a rats' ass what all voters think.
Tue Oct 22, 2013, 01:10 PM
Oct 2013

They are counting on suppressing the votes of women, college kids and older minorities. They are counting on the money men, the kochs, peterson, adelson, giving them billions to buy the airwaves and support their voter suppression, so that only angry old white men can vote. These folks (Repugs) have no shame or conscience at all and don't give a flying fuck about the country or it's economy - just want to get themselves a slice and want to make sure that others don't get the same advantage.

JNelson6563

(28,151 posts)
11. All true, however,
Tue Oct 22, 2013, 01:29 PM
Oct 2013

they have never really mastered the social network thingy. The whole tubes thing is pretty complicated, what with all that spelling and such!

No, their Achilles heel here is their absolute belief that the things that have kept them secure much of the time in recent decades will keep them safe now and going forward. Those things are the conventional media, the pulpits and the big money. Of course the usual voter suppression tactics with a heavy dose of gerrymandering are always helpful.

Still, social media is surpassing conventional media and more and more people seem to be standing up for thier right to vote. We saw what people were willing to do in order to re-elect President Obama in 2012, they are wise to this bullshit.

The GOP/Teabaggers continue to shoot themselves in the foot again and again. They take cover in their precious bubble, while out here in reality things are changing. I foresee more sights like we saw election night of 2012 when Faux News (especially Rove) just absolutely could not believe Romney lost. The look of shock on the faces of Team Romney/Ryan were priceless.

Yeah, lots more where that came from.



Julie

Cosmocat

(14,566 posts)
13. YEP
Tue Oct 22, 2013, 01:34 PM
Oct 2013

They have given up even trying to give the pretense to caring.

They USED to package their bullshit in a flag, the constitution, something that glossed it over.

But, they have contradicted themselves so darn much they have given up trying to put the time and effort into crafting some bullshit that gives them the pretense of a moral high ground.

But, the people of this country simply don't care enough to punish them for it.

They have to be really, REALLY bad to actually lose votes.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
15. Exactly.
Tue Oct 22, 2013, 01:41 PM
Oct 2013

Keeping their base fired up, and setting themselves up for minority rule by voter suppression, election fraud, gerrymandering, and propaganda.

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
21. Speaking of epic....
Tue Oct 22, 2013, 03:01 PM
Oct 2013

By coincidence, King Kongor and his pals recently played out a perfect metaphor of the Republican "victory." Kongor even uses the very same term, "epic":

http://www.twitch.tv/kingkongor/c/3100838

City Lights

(25,171 posts)
9. I'll say it again: I wish we were voting next month!
Tue Oct 22, 2013, 01:13 PM
Oct 2013

I hope their reputation is forever ruined, but many Americans have short memories and my fear is that much of this will have been forgotten by next year.

myrna minx

(22,772 posts)
12. These are rather remarkable poll numbers. With numbers like these
Tue Oct 22, 2013, 01:32 PM
Oct 2013

there shouldn't be any need for a "grand bargain" anymore. Wow.

 

RC

(25,592 posts)
23. You are forgetting all the DLC, DINO's, 3rd Way, New Democrats and other Right of Center
Tue Oct 22, 2013, 03:11 PM
Oct 2013
political leaders with name recognition.

We have almost as much to fear from our own side.

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
18. Let them self-destruct.
Tue Oct 22, 2013, 02:05 PM
Oct 2013

My fear is the the rethugs will be thrown a lifeline by the corporate community that benefits so much from the current two party system.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
19. Sadly, though the polls confirm what we already know
Tue Oct 22, 2013, 02:21 PM
Oct 2013

people will still vote for the GOP and in many cases they'll win.

LongTomH

(8,636 posts)
20. It's encouraging news; but, still expect an uphill fight!
Tue Oct 22, 2013, 02:57 PM
Oct 2013

Gerrymandering, voter disqualification, and, and the effects of Citizens United and probably, McCutcheon vs FEC!

I wish we still had Howard Dean doing strategy for the Democratic Party.

ffr

(22,670 posts)
22. I'm one of the 8 out of 10.
Tue Oct 22, 2013, 03:04 PM
Oct 2013
The defining characteristic of the coming wave, like others before it, is anger. A third of those polled describe themselves as “angry,” and they’re among nearly eight in 10 who say they’re dissatisfied with the way the federal government is working.


But I'm only angry when making my selections at the polls. Bye-bye GOP!

Martin Eden

(12,870 posts)
25. If Republicans are doing what's best for them politically ...
Tue Oct 22, 2013, 08:54 PM
Oct 2013

... the new definition of "best" = abysmal approval ratings.

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
28. The Religious Right is destroying the Republican Party
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 12:15 AM
Oct 2013

The religious right has no interest in governing unless they can impose their worldview on the rest of the nation.

The rest of the nation, however, despises their worldview.

hmmmm.

what to do, Republican Party, what to do...

the religious right scares me, as a political entity, in the same way that religious extremists in the middle east scare me - they have no qualms about destroying people or an entire nation to feed their religious delusions.

Ted Cruz and his father are, imo, no different than the kinds of religious/political leaders that have led to so much instability in other parts of the world.

The joke on Republicans, of course, is that the end game for these guys is to transfer the wealth of everyone, including so-called moderate Republicans, to these babbling idiots of Pentecostalism.

In spite of their stenographer from god telling them to get out of politics...

Z_California

(650 posts)
29. Thank you Fox News!!!
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 11:02 AM
Oct 2013

How ironic that the RW propaganda machine will be the force that takes down the GOP. They didn't learn their lesson from the 2012 election. They will go down in flames because they believe their own bullshit.

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