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phantom power

(25,966 posts)
Tue Oct 22, 2013, 01:37 PM Oct 2013

Cleave This Party in Two

I, for one, am totally on board with un-seating the Republicans who "thought the shutdown was a terrible idea," even if the ones "most responsible" are currently safe. It's time to put these motherfuckers to the question. Make them eat their fucking devil's bargain with the tea party nutcases. Force them to choose sides. In public. Either way, we win.

As regular readers know, I have been kicking around the idea of shattering the Republican Party into two irreconcilable pieces by having the Democrats agree to join with moderate Republicans to elect a replacement for Speaker Boehner. I know that this seems like a pipe dream, but there is fresh evidence emerging every day that it has a kind of logical force that could make it a reality.

Consider Greg Sargent's piece this morning that looks at the "epic damage" the Republicans did to themselves by shutting down the government and threatening our credit rating and the health of the global economy. After looking at the absolutely brutal poll numbers, Mr. Sargent asks:

The question, however, is: Do Republicans actually think it matters that their image is in such disastrous shape, or is that rendered inconsequential by the degree to which the House GOP majority is believed to be invulnerable?


There is a simple conundrum here. The Republicans who are most responsible for the government shutdown are the ones who are least vulnerable, and the ones who thought the shutdown was a terrible idea are the most vulnerable. Many lawmakers who thought their seats were safe are now looking at poll numbers that show them behind or even with generic Democrats. Not only are they angry with their more conservative colleagues for putting them in this situation, but they must be pretty desperate to avoid compounding the problem.

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Can Republican lawmakers who represent districts outside of the Deep South survive this kind of public disapproval? I'd argue that they might survive it if they can repair some of the damage, but they can't survive it if the damage is exacerbated and brought closer to election day. If these Republicans want to save themselves, they must make a break with the conservative movement, and they must make that break now.

For the Democrats, all they have to do is to make the offer and keep making it. Join with us and pass immigration reform. Join with us and pass a Farm Bill. Join with us and pass a balanced budget plan. Join with us and form a governing majority in the House that sidelines the Tea Party. They don't have to agree to it, but refusing the offer will only serve to highlight the need to remove these folks from power.

http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2013/10/22/11265/669
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Cleave This Party in Two (Original Post) phantom power Oct 2013 OP
chop chop Blue Owl Oct 2013 #1
It doesn't matter which group of Republicans we beat in 2014: TeamPooka Oct 2013 #2
Glad I'm not in the place of non-Tea Party Republican Congressfolk. Whether to form a Moderate libdem4life Oct 2013 #3
Their existential misery Jackpine Radical Oct 2013 #4

TeamPooka

(24,229 posts)
2. It doesn't matter which group of Republicans we beat in 2014:
Tue Oct 22, 2013, 01:44 PM
Oct 2013

"There is a simple conundrum here. The Republicans who are most responsible for the government shutdown are the ones who are least vulnerable, and the ones who thought the shutdown was a terrible idea are the most vulnerable. "

We should be going after the most vulnerable.
They thought the shutdown was a terrible idea and could not stop it so they lose their job like the easy pickings they are.
They will also fall under the GOP bus as they fail the GOP purity test.
So be it.
GOTV 2014/2016

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
3. Glad I'm not in the place of non-Tea Party Republican Congressfolk. Whether to form a Moderate
Tue Oct 22, 2013, 01:48 PM
Oct 2013

Wing or sluff off the responsibility to the radicals...almost need a crystal ball.

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