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http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/03/05/10583005-afghan-investigator-us-burning-of-qurans-was-intentionalShah Marai / AFP / Getty Images
Afghan demonstrators shout anti-U.S. slogans outside of Bagram airbase on February 21.
KABUL -- The burning of copies of the Quran at an American base in Afghanistan was intentional, said a member of the team investigating the incident that triggered widespread and deadly anti-Western protests.
"We believe it is intentional," Maulavi Khaliqdad, a member of the panel established by Afghan President Hamid Karzai, told Deutsche Presse-Agentur on Monday. "If they burnt one or two copies, then we could have said it could have been a mistake. But they took hundreds of such books to burn. Everyone knew those were religious books."
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While the United States said that burning copies of the Muslim holy book last month at Bagram airfield was a unintentional, the incident sparked violence that killed 30, including American troops shot by Afghan soldiers.
Romulox
(25,960 posts)bongbong
(5,436 posts)" if the rabble are) united we fall, and (if the rabble are) divided, we stand."
socialindependocrat
(1,372 posts)He is saying that because of the number of Qurans burned then the soldiers knew that they were burning Qurans.
Americans use burning as a sacred way to get rid of AMerican flags and I assume, bibles and people, as well. So it could be argued that the soldiers thought they were doing the respectful thing by burning the Qurans.
Their whole Sheria law thing sure does maim ad kill a lot of people just for the crimes the people commit. I guess is does have a deterant effect.
If that's the way they want to live - fine but what do you do to punish American soldiers? We sure aren't going to submit them to Sharia law! So, no matter what we do, they are not going to be satisfied.
How about we get them to imprison their people for burning our flag... what's the diff.
xchrom
(108,903 posts)then we are too incompetent to be there.
socialindependocrat
(1,372 posts)that specifically states something about that.
They must have a section that specifically relates to the laws and customs and what to do.
Good point!
Enrique
(27,461 posts)he said that his investigation found it was intentional. You added all this other stuff about Sharia law, wtf?
socialindependocrat
(1,372 posts)Maulavi Khaliqdad, a member of the panel established by Afghan President Hamid Karzai, told Deutsche Presse-Agentur on Monday. "If they burnt one or two copies, then we could have said it could have been a mistake. But they took hundreds of such books to burn. Everyone knew those were religious books."
Just because they burned a lot didn't mean they knew what they were burning. Why would the number of books you burn mean that it was definately intentional.
As I said, we, in the U.S. burn things as a sign of respect.
And yes, the rest is my opinion about the post.
Do you care to continue the discussion and post your opinion?
malaise
(269,111 posts)snagglepuss
(12,704 posts)have been treated I wouldn't be surprised it it were deliberate. That said I don't put much faith in a panel that has to live with the consequences of their conclusions among people who go berserk. I don't think any of the panel members would have much time left on Earth if they came to any other conclusion.
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)Snake Alchemist
(3,318 posts)woo me with science
(32,139 posts)julian09
(1,435 posts)woo me with science
(32,139 posts)to misspell "incompetent" while attempting to lay that smear, and the smear of illiteracy, on others.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)sad sally
(2,627 posts)following orders) mistakenly burned the collection of written materials, once again the United States has shown US troops/ocupiers need to leave - now, not 2 years from now. Of course, our leaders could never believe the investigation results of someone other than our own.
The idea that American democrary (if such a thing even exists in the US) is what Afghanistan needs or wants is absurd. They do need help, but not in the form of military occupation, drone attacks, landmines, imprisonment, torture, and the likes.
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PUL-E-ALAM, Afghanistan Military investigators have concluded that five U.S. service members were involved in the incineration of a pile of Korans in Afghanistan last week, according to U.S. military officials who have been briefed on the inquiry.
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U.S. military officials said that although the five service members will be reprimanded, it is unlikely that their names will be released or that their punishment will approach the severity of what some Afghans are demanding, including trial in an Islamic court.
For the soldiers, it will be serious they could lose rank. But youre not going to see the kind of public trial that some here seem to want, said one U.S. military official.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/us-probe-of-koran-burning-finds-5-soldiers-responsible-afghan-clerics-demand-public-trial/2012/03/02/gIQAwJqYmR_story.html
And imagine if the tables were turned; war was raging in the US; the foreign occupiers burned prisoners reading material. What would we think?
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By the time the interpreters were finished, 1,652 books were stacked on the floor and tables for removal, including some Korans, many other religious or scholarly texts, and a number of secular works, including novels and poetry.
Whether the inscriptions were a security risk is a matter of debate. Members of the Ulema Council doubted that the writings were anything other than personal notations, and American military officials and Afghan security officials were unsure because so many books were involved that they had not been able to review them all.
We saw some notes on the margins of the books in which some of the detainees had written memories of their imprisonment, their name, their fathers name, location and the place where they were arrested, said Qazi Nazir Ahmad Hanifi, a member of Parliament from Herat who is a mullah and was on the Ulemas investigating team.
He and others said that in some of the books, including Korans, words were occasionally written in the margins, translations of difficult Arabic words into Pashto or Dari. These had nothing to do with terrorism or criminal activities, he said.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/03/world/asia/5-soldiers-are-said-to-face-punishment-in-koran-burning-in-afghanistan.html?pagewanted=2&_r=2