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The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
Tue Oct 22, 2013, 04:10 PM Oct 2013

Student told she can't have candy corn at lunch

Epping, NH (NBC NEWS) -

When an Epping, New Hampshire 4-year-old's mother packed candy corn for lunch she thought it would be a good way to get in the Halloween spirit.

The teacher had different thoughts though, reportedly telling the child she couldn't eat the sweet treat.

"They said, 'No candy allowed at school.' When I came home I said 'Mom, I'm not allowed to have candy at my school,'" Sarah Kelly said.

...

"I'm the mother. I should get to put in her lunch what I choose to put in her lunch," Michelle Kelly said.

http://www.wsmv.com/story/23729237/student-told-she-cant-have-candy-corn-at-lunch

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Student told she can't have candy corn at lunch (Original Post) The Straight Story Oct 2013 OP
This is news? we can do it Oct 2013 #1
Wrong. riverbendviewgal Oct 2013 #2
So do other foods -- but not candy corn. n/t pnwmom Oct 2013 #24
agreed gopiscrap Oct 2013 #34
It appears food allergies were not a part of the discussion. Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2013 #51
When I was a kid riverbendviewgal Oct 2013 #57
Slow news day in Nashville? When I was a kid, we could only bring "sweets" to school on our ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #3
Maybe she has an extremely high motivation to fight for social petronius Oct 2013 #12
My mom packed a Hostess Twinkie, cupcake or Little Debbie in my lunch bag every day fitman Oct 2013 #15
Nope. It was a normal school. I grew up fine. I find schools that allow ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #17
A bad carb is a bad carb. peace13 Oct 2013 #55
What I'm saying is simply we were never allowed to bring candy to school. End of story. ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #56
God, I'm sick of these things becoming news stories. Brickbat Oct 2013 #4
Fine, but that was your choice. Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2013 #52
Haha. This is what I call "first world problems". nt alp227 Oct 2013 #58
Important snip from the story: 1000words Oct 2013 #5
Who appointed the teacher a nutritional cop? Warpy Oct 2013 #8
I would imagine the School Board ... 1000words Oct 2013 #10
So schools can't ban candy corn but it's fine pnwmom Oct 2013 #25
It's just a bit different, don't you think? Warpy Oct 2013 #31
LOL. Madonna didn't make it respectable to wear a rosary. pnwmom Oct 2013 #32
Kind of like praying, right? Atman Oct 2013 #53
Mmmmmmmm ... the sweet body of Christ. 1000words Oct 2013 #54
If you sent a child to school with a piece of bread with butter and sugar on it, would that be cake? BlueJazz Oct 2013 #6
I guess that peanut butter and honey sandwiches are right out. FarCenter Oct 2013 #14
Now I'm hungry. n/t moriah Oct 2013 #47
Bizarre PlainJane1 Oct 2013 #7
its how Niceguy1 Oct 2013 #13
It's kind of weird. HappyMe Oct 2013 #9
Our school has a policy: No Candy. Period. IdaBriggs Oct 2013 #11
i think dictating what a child brings to lunch is going too far Liberal_in_LA Oct 2013 #20
what's next? No candy on Halloween? liberal_at_heart Oct 2013 #23
We disagree. I am a mom of young kids and disruptive kids due to sugar issues IdaBriggs Oct 2013 #35
i hear ya Liberal_in_LA Oct 2013 #46
I can argue both sides of this one. LWolf Oct 2013 #36
^=== This. IdaBriggs Oct 2013 #43
u r strict Liberal_in_LA Oct 2013 #45
Yes. LWolf Oct 2013 #59
If 'sugared up' is the reason then allowing foods as sugary is not consistent and that Bluenorthwest Oct 2013 #42
As the principal tells the students, you have to draw the line somewhere. IdaBriggs Oct 2013 #44
the mother is an idiot JI7 Oct 2013 #16
We would go across the street and buy Pez. Downwinder Oct 2013 #18
our society doesn't know how to do anything in moderation. Sugar causes obesity so what do we do? liberal_at_heart Oct 2013 #19
No one in this story said anything like that. nt. Mariana Oct 2013 #37
I beg to differ. Candy corn isn't "candy" Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #21
Certainly not the kind my junior high band director Art_from_Ark Oct 2013 #26
Seriously. Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #27
Not a problem at my son's school aroach Oct 2013 #22
Can't take candy to my daughters school. bravenak Oct 2013 #28
Grapes? RobinA Oct 2013 #40
They're huge grapes. bravenak Oct 2013 #41
Just think of the thread you'd have if there was a kid who got in trouble Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #29
She needs some Roller Girl Candy Cigarettes instead. kentauros Oct 2013 #30
Really Mom? Anything? Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2013 #33
Dumb post. You have to follow the school rules. My school has a no candy policy. Give her the dumb Pisces Oct 2013 #38
Call Congress Right Fugging Now ! RagAss Oct 2013 #39
In my day, candy was okay, if you brought enough to share with the entire class. n/t moriah Oct 2013 #48
Fauxrage. Vashta Nerada Oct 2013 #49
I'm all for promoting better nutrition, but... Silent3 Oct 2013 #50
If the lunch is packed at home I think the Mom is well within her right Autumn Oct 2013 #60

riverbendviewgal

(4,253 posts)
57. When I was a kid
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 05:16 PM
Oct 2013

and that is over 50 years ago..We were not allowed to chew gum nor bring candy into the classroom.
It seems some schools do and some don't

There is so much child obesity now it is very alarming. Candy is not at all nourishing.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
3. Slow news day in Nashville? When I was a kid, we could only bring "sweets" to school on our
Tue Oct 22, 2013, 04:13 PM
Oct 2013

birthdays and the actual day of Halloween. My children couldn't either. I don't see anything wrong with the policy of not letting kids have candy in school. I don't see at all why the mother had to contact a news station over it.

petronius

(26,602 posts)
12. Maybe she has an extremely high motivation to fight for social
Tue Oct 22, 2013, 04:43 PM
Oct 2013

justice and an end to oppression, and there are simply no other outlets available for that impulse...

I agree, it's really bizarre to call a news agency over this, and equally odd that they decided to print it. I shudder to think what was next in line, if this gripping story hadn't run.

 

fitman

(482 posts)
15. My mom packed a Hostess Twinkie, cupcake or Little Debbie in my lunch bag every day
Tue Oct 22, 2013, 05:36 PM
Oct 2013

My school allowed candy of all types.. you had a strict school

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
17. Nope. It was a normal school. I grew up fine. I find schools that allow
Tue Oct 22, 2013, 05:43 PM
Oct 2013

candy rather odd, to be honest. Neither of my kids could bring candy to school either.

We're talking candy here. Not Hostess.

 

peace13

(11,076 posts)
55. A bad carb is a bad carb.
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 04:32 PM
Oct 2013

Are you saying that kids cannot pack dessert in their lunches now? If you get right down to it peanut butter and jelly on bread is just about as nutritional as a snickers bar. Both have a slight amount of protein and a butt load of empty carbs!

My son is twenty nine so granted I have been out of it for a while but if the school tried to tell me what to send with my child I am certain I would have had something to say about it!

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
56. What I'm saying is simply we were never allowed to bring candy to school. End of story.
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 04:33 PM
Oct 2013

Sorry, but there's really no space for an argument here.

Brickbat

(19,339 posts)
4. God, I'm sick of these things becoming news stories.
Tue Oct 22, 2013, 04:13 PM
Oct 2013

I try to get healthy snacks to send to school, and one day my kid came home and said, "Oh, try not to send that one snack" -- a trail mix that had chocolate chips in it, among the nuts and granola and dried fruit -- "because it has candy in it."

I said, "Oh, OK, no problem." It was a good reminder to keep treats as treats and look for better snacks. End of story.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
52. Fine, but that was your choice.
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 04:21 PM
Oct 2013

If my SIL came home with a story like that I'd send her back the next day with twice as much with a note that reads, "Do it again and I'll double it again. Keep this up and there will be a side-dumper full of candy corn on the front walk before week's end."

 

1000words

(7,051 posts)
5. Important snip from the story:
Tue Oct 22, 2013, 04:19 PM
Oct 2013

" The school district says there was a miscommunication about the healthy snacking policy. They say Sarah had two snacks with her, and that her teacher chose for Sarah to have the healthier option."

==============================================

This is an established school policy. Mom is misinformed. Sarah can get sugared up at home.

Warpy

(111,274 posts)
8. Who appointed the teacher a nutritional cop?
Tue Oct 22, 2013, 04:27 PM
Oct 2013

Why the hell couldn't the kid have both? Most kids have hollow legs and will Hoover up everything they get for lunch (unless it's something nasty left over from dinner the night before).

 

1000words

(7,051 posts)
10. I would imagine the School Board ...
Tue Oct 22, 2013, 04:33 PM
Oct 2013

and the parents who showed up to participate in helping to establish policy.

Warpy

(111,274 posts)
31. It's just a bit different, don't you think?
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 01:37 AM
Oct 2013

Besides, before Madonna came along, it was considered extremely disrespectful to wear a rosary like a necklace.

And in any case, they're not saying the kid can't do it, only that he needs to wear it inside his shirt where nobody can grab it and choke him with it.

And finally, you do know it violates TOS to threadshit by bringing in old garbage from different threads, don't you?

We're done here. Really.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
32. LOL. Madonna didn't make it respectable to wear a rosary.
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 01:44 AM
Oct 2013

If anything, she made it not respectable.

Different Catholic ethnic groups have had different practices with regard to wearing the rosary, long before Madonna came around.

And you're wrong about the school's dress code. It said "No rosaries are allowed."
And yet it didn't ban the Star of David or any other religious symbol.

The American Civil Liberties Union is on the side of students who want to wear religious symbols, and anyone who respects the Constitution should, too.

This is a far more fundamental right than the right to consume candy corn.


Atman

(31,464 posts)
53. Kind of like praying, right?
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 04:24 PM
Oct 2013

Seriously...constantly hearing about "needing time to pray." PRAY AT HOME...and heat a handful of candy corn. Or have a Necco Wafer placed on your tongue if you're Catholic.

 

BlueJazz

(25,348 posts)
6. If you sent a child to school with a piece of bread with butter and sugar on it, would that be cake?
Tue Oct 22, 2013, 04:22 PM
Oct 2013

Candy is (usually) Sugar, oils/grease, flavoring, emulsifiers

Lots of food products have those ingredients ...are they candy ??

PlainJane1

(8 posts)
7. Bizarre
Tue Oct 22, 2013, 04:22 PM
Oct 2013

It was part of the girl's lunch. It did NOT have peanuts, as another poster posited.

This is just an example of school authorities overreaching their bounds.

Idiotic. And, yes...this should be news.

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
9. It's kind of weird.
Tue Oct 22, 2013, 04:27 PM
Oct 2013

My mom packed a few cookies with my lunch every day.

I could see if the kid had only candy in her lunch.

 

IdaBriggs

(10,559 posts)
11. Our school has a policy: No Candy. Period.
Tue Oct 22, 2013, 04:38 PM
Oct 2013

It has to do with the joys of sugared up kids and the inevitable sugar crash creating an unproductive learning environment. (Was that politically correct enough for "STUPID PARENTS - FEED YOUR KID LIKE YOU WANT THEM TO LEARN SOMETHING?&quot

I am told that every year the little lawyer children demand to know why they can't bring candy to school, and point out that cookies (which are allowed) frequently have more sugar. The principal usually explains it very nicely that they had to draw a line some where and "candy" was where they drew it.

Then there is the Evil Teacher (who I bluntly admire) who always pretends shock that "cookies have sugar in them? we should ban the cookies, too!" at which point the little lawyers shut up and promptly begin insisting it isn't that big of a deal, and thank you they would like to keep their cookies.

Sometimes it is all in the way you explain things.

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
23. what's next? No candy on Halloween?
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 01:08 AM
Oct 2013

I taught my kids to eat in moderation and both are healthy. I am addicted to sugar. I am working on it. I am eating better. I am eating plenty of protein, whole grains, and fruits and vegetables. I am avoiding processed flour and sugar products, and I have lost 10 lbs. But I still eat something sugary every once in a while.

 

IdaBriggs

(10,559 posts)
35. We disagree. I am a mom of young kids and disruptive kids due to sugar issues
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 08:48 AM
Oct 2013

disrupts the classroom/learning environment for everyone. (I say this as a mom of a kid who is currently disrupting his classroom with issues other than sugar - sigh.)

In a perfect world these types of common sense rules would not have to be made; unfortunately, Pop-Tarts, (lots of sugar added) Breakfast Cereal, (lots of sugar added) "Go-Gurt", (lots of sugar added) "Fruit" Drinks are just the start - seriously, it isn't like it was when we were kids when a candy bar was a special treat. Drawing the line somewhere at "candy" seems very reasonable to me.

When the kids are bouncing off the walls, the teachers spend more time trying to control them than teaching, and everybody loses. Most people aren't allowed to get drunk at work; sugar excess kind of does the same thing to most kids (along with the bonus headache crash similar to a hangover).

Again, if common sense were common, it wouldn't be an issue, but idiots are everywhere.

And yes, sometimes I am one of them.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
36. I can argue both sides of this one.
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 09:38 AM
Oct 2013

For the sake of constructive argument:

First, I'll acknowledge that authoritarian rules often backfire, have unintended consequences, and that we ought to err on the side of liberty rather than more rules.

Then I have to point out, though, that anyone, parent or community member, who thinks we ought to butt out and let kids have their candy at school...THOSE people need to spend all day in an overcrowded classroom trying to teach 30+ students who are spiking and crashing on sugar highs and lows...and have their job evaluations and security be based on how well those students perform on standardized tests.

You are correct when you say that we should educate, not dictate. A good way to do that would be a blitz of public service announcements on tv and radio, since the majority of America spends a lot of time there. We can't pay for the education we demand at this point, though, so where does that money come from?

Sending more stuff home that parents don't read is not the way.

My school does not have any rules about candy or soda. I do, though. No candy or any drink except for plain, non-flavored water is allowed in my room at any time unless I've given advanced permission for some sort of special treat. The students know why. The parents, if they ask, which they never do, learn why.

(Exception: my diabetic student has juice and candy in the cupboard, along with testing supplies and medication.)

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
59. Yes.
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 09:21 PM
Oct 2013

And fair. And loving. And fiercely supportive. My students know this; they don't hold strictness against me.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
42. If 'sugared up' is the reason then allowing foods as sugary is not consistent and that
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 12:54 PM
Oct 2013

shows that it is about control, not about keeping kids from consuming sugar. That sort of creepy game playing is no way to educate children. It says rules should be arbitrary and the reasons for them can be false. That policy is devoid of ethics.

 

IdaBriggs

(10,559 posts)
44. As the principal tells the students, you have to draw the line somewhere.
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 12:58 PM
Oct 2013

Personally, I'm with you - ban all the sugar crap from school because excess amounts should be a treat.

Drat. Now I want a candy bar.

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
19. our society doesn't know how to do anything in moderation. Sugar causes obesity so what do we do?
Tue Oct 22, 2013, 11:15 PM
Oct 2013

Tell people they're never allowed to eat sugar ever again. Yeah, that's going to work.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
26. Certainly not the kind my junior high band director
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 01:16 AM
Oct 2013

tried to make my group sell during the Halloween candy sales drive. And to top it off, that particular candy corn had been left over from the previous year!

But even then, it wasn't nearly as bad as the "circus peanuts"

aroach

(212 posts)
22. Not a problem at my son's school
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 12:53 AM
Oct 2013

They give out candy fairly regularly there for rewards. His teacher keeps a giant bag of snack size candy on her desk for this purpose. I pack a small candy bar or homemade brownie in his lunch every day.

On his birthday I can take treats but they have to come from a bakery or be pre-packaged. I can't bring homemade treats for the whole class.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
28. Can't take candy to my daughters school.
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 01:20 AM
Oct 2013

Kids share. One shared some peanut butter cups. Epi pen and hospital.
I wouldn't give my kid candy corn to take to school. How about some grapes?

RobinA

(9,893 posts)
40. Grapes?
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 12:41 PM
Oct 2013

Grapes? Choking hazard. I would suggest food capsules supplied by the school, formulated by a computer program containing the individualized diet requirements, medical and parental, of each child. Under strict supervision so that kids can't trade meals, of course. I think a good name for the program might be Brave New Lunch Menu.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
41. They're huge grapes.
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 12:45 PM
Oct 2013

My kids is autistic and in a school for kids with disabilities. So they have to be picky, a lot of kids have medical issues.
But your idea is good too.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
33. Really Mom? Anything?
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 01:55 AM
Oct 2013

I have mixed feelings about this, but schools need to have rules and some of them will restrict some of the students' freedom. And the kid can eat candy the other 16 hours of the day, so I'm not seeing this as an "Attica" moment.

Pisces

(5,599 posts)
38. Dumb post. You have to follow the school rules. My school has a no candy policy. Give her the dumb
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 11:14 AM
Oct 2013

corn at home.

Take your tea party posts where you will get the desired response.

Silent3

(15,223 posts)
50. I'm all for promoting better nutrition, but...
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 04:17 PM
Oct 2013

...school rules like that seem excessively intrusive to me, whatever the motivation.

Autumn

(45,107 posts)
60. If the lunch is packed at home I think the Mom is well within her right
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 09:29 PM
Oct 2013

to put in any sweet treat for her child that she wants to.

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