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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsYes, I think it's awful what Maher once said about Palin
compared to RUSH LIMBAUGH CALLING SANDRA FLUKE A SLUT AND A PROSTITUTE.
And I think it's appalling what Ed Shultz once said about Laura Ingraham compared to RUSH LIMBAUGH CALLING SANDRA FLUKE A SLUT AND A PROSTITUTE.
References have been made to Don Imus' insulting words. They were deplorable, compared to RUSH LIMBAUGH CALLING SANDRA FLUKE A SLUT AND A PROSTITUTE.
People have even brought up Michael Richards' tirade lately. I think that was awful too, compared to RUSH LIMBAUGH CALLING SANDRA FLUKE A SLUT AND A PROSTITUTE.
Apologists, knock yourselves out. Feel free to bring up every false equivalency you care to, because it helps us remember that RUSH LIMBAUGH CALLED SANDRA FLUKE A SLUT AND A PROSTITUTE.
Just sayin'
Zalatix
(8,994 posts)Time to clean house on these nutcase comments. Starting with Rush, the Godfather of sexist remarks... but NOT AT ALL ending with him.
Every false equivalency discussion provides another reminder, another strike against Rushbo.
Zalatix
(8,994 posts)mac56
(17,574 posts)Seriously: keep bringing up these comparisons. They help us in ways you probably didn't intend.
Zalatix
(8,994 posts)I'll be spreading word about these nasty comments made by every commentator, to everyone I know. Starting with Limbaugh and including everyone else.
What you think of that is of little consequence to me.
mac56
(17,574 posts)Zalatix
(8,994 posts)Zalatix
(8,994 posts)mac56
(17,574 posts)What you think of my opinion about Bill Maher is of little consequence to me. Hush up now, grownups are talking.
Zalatix
(8,994 posts)Maher is now defending Limbaugh's bullshit apology, yet you're still sticking with your story that his behavior is not as bad as Limbaugh's.
You may well be the LAST person who holds that opinion. We're all crazy but you're not. Congratulations!
mac56
(17,574 posts)Zalatix
(8,994 posts)who spews the kind of sexist crap that he does?
Seriously, is this your argument?
mac56
(17,574 posts)When there is no possible comparison that any rational person would draw.....
oops!...
sorry.
Zalatix
(8,994 posts)What color are the polkadots in your world, again?
mac56
(17,574 posts)Seriously, keep doing what you're doing. Don't change a single thing. Paint Bill Maher with any brush you choose. Because with every single comment you post about this, you remind people once again that...
(wait for it...)
RUSH LIMBAUGH CALLED SANDRA FLUKE A SLUT AND A PROSTITUTE.
Zalatix
(8,994 posts)Find one person on here who agrees with your rant that I'm a RUSHBOT for saying that all sexist comments should be cause to be kicked off the airwaves. STARTING WITH LIMBAUGH.
Find one. Anyone. Oh wait, you can't. So you're going to dodge me yet again, because you know your argument is downright foolish.
Find one person who agrees with you. One. You can't. You won't.
Union Scribe
(7,099 posts)And you just keep going. You're acting like someone being consistent in opposing sexist remarks is somehow an affront to you personally.
earthside
(6,960 posts)Besides, it's a fallacious argument.
Two Wrongs Make A Right or Tu Quoque
A charge of wrongdoing is answered by a rationalization that others have sinned, or might have sinned.
Tu Quoque is a very common fallacy in which one attempts to defend oneself or another from criticism by turning the critique back against the accuser. This is a classic Red Herring since whether the accuser is guilty of the same, or a similar, wrong is irrelevant to the truth of the original charge. However, as a diversionary tactic, Tu Quoque can be very effective, since the accuser is put on the defensive, and frequently feels compelled to defend against the accusation.
This form of the argument, familiar from everyday disagreements, is as follows:
A makes criticism P.
A is also guilty of P.
Therefore, P is dismissed.
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)Tu Quoque is the logical fallacy at the core of the GOP's false-equivalency arguments.
BootinUp
(47,172 posts)that anyone needs to point this out.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)fredamae
(4,458 posts)I didn't like the words Maher used either, but I also recognize Maher is a Comedian.
rush is NOT AND he is on Public Radio with a LOT of listeners believing Every word he utters. There is No comparison.
Imus "paid" for his improprieties both socially and financially.
Ed Shultz, Immediately apologized, suspended himself from MSNBC for what he'd stated on his Radio Program, Personally called Ingram to apologize as well apologizing to All Americans. She graciously accepted yet currently demands a call from the President also. Shultz didn't Pound on her for more than 3 days, relentlessly. Another False Equivalency!
Yes, False Equivalency indeed! Desperate people resort to desperate means.
I have never had a "use" for the MediaCons out there, but I must say I LOVE the corner they have put themselves in. They are just reinforcing with Proof what "we" have long stated.
bongbong
(5,436 posts)Most, if not all of the Liberals apologized immediately & sincerely, and didn't repeat their errors.
In contrast, the repigs doubled down on their hatred and amped it up a notch.
shcrane71
(1,721 posts)and hear "entertainers" disparaging women -- unless I tune into Conservative talk shows, and specifically Rush Limbaugh. The public airwaves need to have more civility, and less name-calling. Names that police officers have used to justify assault and rape.
Check out this petition to have the "FCC to investigate Rush Limbaugh for biased and distorted news and for making intimidating statements":
http://wh.gov/9XY
dodger501
(1,069 posts)over a major political party like the King Pig of Radio does.
nolabear
(41,990 posts)then let's keep that ball rolling.
mackattack
(344 posts)That being said, the issue here is that
1. The lady wasnt a public figure. She is a "civilian" as we say in the political realm.
2. He said it over and over.
3. His show is THE show.
But yeah, generally we give other people a pass because we agree with them politically. Limbaugh we dont so we go after him. The issues above make it that much easier.
mac56
(17,574 posts)JitterbugPerfume
(18,183 posts)he insulted Laura Ingrham on radio, and apologised on his TV show , plus he took a voluntary week off.
He swore never to do it again and so far he hasn't.
He is nothing NOTHING like Rush.
RockaFowler
(7,429 posts)He may not like Ingraham, but he won't let that word slip again
Big Ed learned from his mistake. Not Limpballs
Initech
(100,095 posts)Bill Maher is not on Armed Forces Radio. He is on a subscription based service that you don't have to pay for if you don't want to. Maher's show also has a pre determined comedic context. Limbaugh is on free radio and the global, government controlled Arned Forces Network. He has hundreds of sponsors and reaches a huge audience. Limbaugh is widely considered the spokesperson for an entire political party. Maher isn't. Maher's audience is quite limited by comparison.
First, Limbaugh's show most definitely has a pre-determined comedic context. He spends a lot of his time trying to be funny.
Second, Limbaugh being considered the party spokesman is a de facto situation. The party leadership resents that status. If they had anything to say about it, they would probably prefer that not be the case. In fact, I would argue that Limbaugh being the voice of the Republican party is a confluence of numerous disparate desires that be the case - these come from 1) Limbaugh himself, 2) His most dedicated fans, 3) Democratic strategists, 4) The media.
It's ironic that the people left out here are the actual Republican Party leadership, who by all rights should be the voice of the party. The fact that they aren't is a testament to their lameness.
MarianJack
(10,237 posts)K&R!
PEACE!