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eridani

(51,907 posts)
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 07:15 AM Oct 2013

Why Can’t the World’s Most Powerful Military Accomplish Any of Its Goals?

Behold the coming era of tiny wars and micro-conflicts.

http://www.thenation.com/article/176768/why-cant-worlds-most-powerful-military-accomplish-any-its-goals?rel=emailNation#

What planet are we now on? Why is it that military power, the mightiest imaginable, can’t overcome, pacify, or simply destroy weak powers, less than impressive insurgency movements, or the ragged groups of (often tribal) peoples we label as “terrorists”? Why is such military power no longer transformative or even reasonably effective? Is it, to reach for an analogy, like antibiotics? If used for too long in too many situations, does a kind of immunity build up against it?

Let’s be clear here: such a military remains a powerful potential instrument of destruction, death and destabilization. For all we know—it’s not something we’ve seen anything of in these years—it might also be a powerful instrument for genuine defense. But if recent history is any guide, what it clearly cannot be in the twenty-first century is a policymaking instrument, a means of altering the world to fit a scheme developed in Washington. The planet itself and people just about anywhere on it seem increasingly resistant in ways that take the military off the table as an effective superpower instrument of state.

Washington’s military plans and tactics since 9/11 have been a spectacular train wreck. When you look back, counterinsurgency doctrine, resuscitated from the ashes of America’s defeat in Vietnam, is once again on the scrap heap of history. (Who today even remembers its key organizing phrase—“clear, hold and build”—which now looks like the punch line for some malign joke?) “Surges,” once hailed as brilliant military strategy, have already disappeared into the mists. “Nation-building,” once a term of tradecraft in Washington, is in the doghouse. “Boots on the ground,” of which the US had enormous numbers and still has 51,000 in Afghanistan, are now a no-no. The American public is, everyone universally agrees, “exhausted” with war. Major American armies arriving to fight anywhere on the Eurasian continent in the foreseeable future? Don’t count on it.

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So something is indeed changing in response to military failure, but what’s not changing is Washington's preference for war as the option of choice, often of first resort. What’s not changing is the thought that, if you can just get your strategy and tactics readjusted correctly, force will work. (Recently, Washington was only saved from plunging into another predictable military disaster in Syria by an offhand comment of Secretary of State John Kerry and the timely intervention of Russian President Vladimir Putin.)

What our leaders don’t get is the most basic, practical fact of our moment: war simply doesn’t work, not big, not micro—not for Washington. A superpower at war in the distant reaches of this planet is no longer a superpower ascendant but one with problems.

The US military may be a destabilization machine. It may be a blowback machine. What it’s not is a policymaking or enforcement machine.

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Recursion

(56,582 posts)
1. Clausewitz
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 07:17 AM
Oct 2013

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Overwhelming force becomes self-defeating.

That said, if you view one of the US's goals as being keeping the middle east unstable and full of weak states, we're doing a bang-up job.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
4. Many take exactly that point of view.
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 08:03 AM
Oct 2013

I'm not one, mind you, but many do, and it's plausible.

I think they are ignorant fools. They keep winning all the battles and losing all the wars. They think it's all about the war toys. If you have the right war toys, then you should win. I know it's driving them nuts, I used to work in defense. They have this big fucking hammer, and they just cannot believe you can't put an automobile together with it, or force the auto to put itself together, or something. I mean, no notion at all of having the right tool for the job. You don't build nations with military force, and you don't enforce "security" with military force either, that takes politicians and bureaucrats and civilian police forces, and that can't be done while there is a war going on in the middle of it.

“Thus it is that in war the victorious strategist only seeks battle after the victory has been won, whereas he who is destined to defeat first fights and afterwards looks for victory.”
-- Sun Tzu

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
5. "keeping the middle east unstable and full of weak states" - that is the strategy, all except two
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 08:50 AM
Oct 2013

Israel and Saudi Arabia/GCC, who are the only ones who benefit from this strategy of general destabilization and regional sectarian warfare.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
8. The weapon of choice of Empire is no longer the gunboat, it's the hedge fund.
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 09:11 AM
Oct 2013

Witness Venezuela, today.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
12. Sun Tzu
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 05:25 AM
Oct 2013
“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”
 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
2. Because, perhaps, our (my) idea of "winning" is different than the MIC's intentions.
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 07:21 AM
Oct 2013

They are winning at absorbing money that could be spent in better ways, causing unrest and creating limitless enmity, disruption - warfare is not so clear now, maybe the real winners are all behind the scenes, and the actual killing and destruction is just a sideshow. I believe war these days is really best understood by following the money, who is using who, things like that. The bloodshed seems almost incidental.

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
7. Weapons gets used up, spent, destroyed.
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 09:00 AM
Oct 2013

And so the MIC would like to see that continue. Continuous war means continuous consumption of weapons. Perpetual demand, a businessman's wet dream.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
3. Which "goals"? The goal to loot Iraq of its ancient artifacts? Score! The goal to gain the mineral
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 07:44 AM
Oct 2013

wealth of Afghanistan and to get those poppy fields a-bloomin' again? Check!
Re-gaining CIA control of the drug-runs (by air and by sea) from Central America? Done and done!
Taking over the Golden Triangle of Indo-China? Maybe!

"The US military may be a destabilization machine." THAT IS ITS RAISON D'ETRE.

 

coldmountain

(802 posts)
9. Winning wars and building nations are almost at cross purposes.
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 09:22 AM
Oct 2013

I started working with a young marine vet from Afghanistan and he was always frustrated with the rules of engagement. It's tough when you're a "guest" and not a conqueror.

dawg

(10,624 posts)
10. Because even the biggest hammer in the world ...
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 09:33 AM
Oct 2013

can't paint your house!

(Although, I suppose you could *try* to paint your house with a hammer.)

eridani

(51,907 posts)
11. Why Washington Can't Stop
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 04:23 AM
Oct 2013
http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/20010-why-washington-cant-stop

In terms of pure projectable power, there's never been anything like it. Its military has divided the world -- the whole planet -- into six "commands." Its fleet, with 11 aircraft carrier battle groups, rules the seas and has done so largely unchallenged for almost seven decades. Its Air Force has ruled the global skies, and despite being almost continuously in action for years, hasn't faced an enemy plane since 1991 or been seriously challenged anywhere since the early 1970s. Its fleet of drone aircraft has proven itself capable of targeting and killing suspected enemies in the backlands of the planet from Afghanistan and Pakistan to Yemen and Somalia with little regard for national boundaries, and none at all for the possibility of being shot down. It funds and trains proxy armies on several continents and has complex aid and training relationships with militaries across the planet. On hundreds of bases, some tiny and others the size of American towns, its soldiers garrison the globe from Italy to Australia, Honduras to Afghanistan, and on islands from Okinawa in the Pacific Ocean to Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean. Its weapons makers are the most advanced on Earth and dominate the global arms market. Its nuclear weaponry in silos, on bombers, and on its fleet of submarines would be capable of destroying several planets the size of Earth. Its system of spy satellites is unsurpassed and unchallenged. Its intelligence services can listen in on the phone calls or read the emails of almost anyone in the world from top foreign leaders to obscure insurgents. The CIA and its expanding paramilitary forces are capable of kidnapping people of interest just about anywhere from rural Macedonia to the streets of Rome and Tripoli. For its many prisoners, it has set up (and dismantled) secret jails across the planet and on its naval vessels. It spends more on its military than the next most powerful 13 states combined. Add in the spending for its full national security state and it towers over any conceivable group of other nations.

In terms of advanced and unchallenged military power, there has been nothing like the U.S. armed forces since the Mongols swept across Eurasia. No wonder American presidents now regularly use phrases like "the finest fighting force the world has ever known" to describe it. By the logic of the situation, the planet should be a pushover for it. Lesser nations with far lesser forces have, in the past, controlled vast territories. And despite much discussion of American decline and the waning of its power in a "multi-polar" world, its ability to pulverize and destroy, kill and maim, blow up and kick down has only grown in this new century.

No other nation's military comes within a country mile of it. None has more than a handful of foreign bases. None has more than two aircraft carrier battle groups. No potential enemy has such a fleet of robotic planes. None has more than 60,000 special operations forces. Country by country, it's a hands-down no-contest. The Russian (once "Red&quot army is a shadow of its former self. The Europeans have not rearmed significantly. Japan's "self-defense" forces are powerful and slowly growing, but under the U.S. nuclear "umbrella." Although China, regularly identified as the next rising imperial state, is involved in a much-ballyhooed military build-up, with its one aircraft carrier (a retread from the days of the Soviet Union), it still remains only a regional power.




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