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RockaFowler

(7,429 posts)
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 11:20 AM Oct 2013

Harry Reid Told Caucus That Pete Sessions Was Behind Obama Insult, Senators Say

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/24/harry-reid-pete-sessions_n_4156453.html?1382626266

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) let his Democratic caucus know last week in a private meeting that a top House Republican told President Barack Obama, "I cannot even stand to look at you," according to two Democratic senators who were present, and confirmed by two Senate Democratic aides who said they independently learned of the exchange from two other senators.

The two senators were not in the meeting where the Republican reportedly made the remark, but said a top White House aide who was there told Senate Democratic leaders about it.

The revelation from the senators sheds new light on a Capitol Hill whodunit that burst into the public sphere when Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) shared the exchange on his Facebook page on Sunday. (The two senators at the private meeting requested anonymity to talk about it; neither of them are Durbin.)

The alleged incident took place in the throes of the government shutdown, when Obama was meeting with different factions of lawmakers to try to find a resolution to the debacle. The White House aide told Democratic leaders that the lawmaker who couldn't stand to look at the president was Rep. Pete Sessions (R-Texas), the chairman of the House Rules Committee, the two senators told HuffPost.


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Harry Reid Told Caucus That Pete Sessions Was Behind Obama Insult, Senators Say (Original Post) RockaFowler Oct 2013 OP
Not surprised by that racist clown. JRLeft Oct 2013 #1
not surprised... kardonb Oct 2013 #56
It's Texas, I have a lot family from there. JRLeft Oct 2013 #57
Actually not enough loco-weed dreamnightwind Oct 2013 #59
And too much alcohol. That's the *real* crazy maker. gtar100 Oct 2013 #68
Yes dreamnightwind Oct 2013 #69
My thoughts exactly Heather MC Oct 2013 #73
He appears to be a racist riverbendviewgal Oct 2013 #2
His Wikipedia entry reads like a fucking advertisement jsr Oct 2013 #5
Took the bait and looked. You're not exaggerating! beerandjesus Oct 2013 #14
The awesome thing about Wikipedia is... Cooley Hurd Oct 2013 #72
This racist asshole is the chairman of the House Rules Committee SamYeager Oct 2013 #3
Yes. Sessions (R) squashed the democratic process for Royal Republicon Rule Berlum Oct 2013 #34
Post removed Post removed Oct 2013 #4
WTF is that supposed to mean??? n/t ChisolmTrailDem Oct 2013 #13
Just more stupid regional bigotry. Eleanors38 Oct 2013 #17
A lot of right wing dysfunction comes out of that state AgingAmerican Oct 2013 #20
I can count at least 26 other states with a "lot of right wing dysfunction". This region ChisolmTrailDem Oct 2013 #22
Steve King and Michelle Bachman PatrynXX Oct 2013 #31
Yellow Dog means that you'd vote for a dog rather than a 'publican - at least that is how Hestia Oct 2013 #44
At least all the yellow dogs I know are nice and loving. broiles Oct 2013 #53
A Yellow Dog specifically would vote against the Repuke if his opponent were an old mangy yellow dog IrishAyes Oct 2013 #65
Yellow Dogs are Liberal. Yellow Dogs would vote for a yellow dog before a Republican. Zen Democrat Oct 2013 #46
Yellow dogs.... GTurck Oct 2013 #74
Its the neoconfederates AgingAmerican Oct 2013 #62
The post to which you refer WAS extremely excessive and offensive IrishAyes Oct 2013 #64
Ok.So as to not offend some texans heaven05 Oct 2013 #25
thats a bit better PatrynXX Oct 2013 #35
3,194,927 Texan voted against cruz. 4,440,137 voted for him. efhmc Oct 2013 #67
but, but I didn't put all of you heaven05 Oct 2013 #76
Sadl,sadly for millions of us and I think now even more that is true. efhmc Oct 2013 #77
I really don't think that should stay.. PatrynXX Oct 2013 #30
Thanks for the support. efhmc Oct 2013 #78
More to be revealed? whttevrr Oct 2013 #6
Isn't it incredible that when one refers to "that racist Sessions in Congress", bullwinkle428 Oct 2013 #7
That is who it was then. If the President actually did come out yesterday as sources say, and lostincalifornia Oct 2013 #8
He normally takes the high road BumRushDaShow Oct 2013 #12
The "pull the head out comment" was NEVER directed at the oppressed, it was directed at the lostincalifornia Oct 2013 #21
Truman didn't have a 24/7 newstream/twitter feed/bloggeshpere just itching for this type of BS. politicaljunkie41910 Oct 2013 #24
Very well made point, and perhaps that is what is happening. lostincalifornia Oct 2013 #58
Well said. IrishAyes Oct 2013 #66
He is a pretender, IMHO. cry baby Oct 2013 #28
k&r for exposure. n/t Laelth Oct 2013 #9
Pete Sessions is Scum dem in texas Oct 2013 #10
... meegbear Oct 2013 #11
I think he is still enthralled by postcard images of kids eating watermelons. Eleanors38 Oct 2013 #15
Petey might be in trouble.... beerandjesus Oct 2013 #16
During the press briefing yesterday, Ranchemp. Oct 2013 #18
Nothing but hearsay to me n/t alp227 Oct 2013 #19
Was Durbin in the meeting and a witness? magical thyme Oct 2013 #23
Jay Carney yesterday denied the incident ever happened, Ranchemp. Oct 2013 #27
Thankfully he didn't follow your advice on this. Kingofalldems Oct 2013 #39
And now the WH has pretty much thrown him under the bus. Ranchemp. Oct 2013 #41
Why? It's a public indication of where their bias lies. n/t vaberella Oct 2013 #70
Maybe Jay Carney denied that it happened because Ranchemp. Oct 2013 #75
He wasn't a witness dreamnightwind Oct 2013 #60
K & R Scurrilous Oct 2013 #26
I'm betting it's on tape malaise Oct 2013 #29
Don't negotiate with racists. grahamhgreen Oct 2013 #32
k & r thanks for posting..... nt Stuart G Oct 2013 #33
This has been refuted by the White House. Ranchemp. Oct 2013 #36
If I were a betting man, I would bet that Sessions did say this. Stuart G Oct 2013 #37
Sessions is making his voting base happy. They love it. AlinPA Oct 2013 #38
So why would the WH Ranchemp. Oct 2013 #40
Aw, I see what you are doing. Kingofalldems Oct 2013 #43
What am I doing, Ranchemp. Oct 2013 #45
They are trying cool partisan passions. I don't think it is "throwing him under the bus". AlinPA Oct 2013 #50
Sessions is a racist POS whether he said that or not. I think he did. Zen Democrat Oct 2013 #47
Reading the full story, it sounds like there's no story. ffr Oct 2013 #42
I don't know where he's from but he represents gerrymandered parts of Dallas. nt Zen Democrat Oct 2013 #48
The WH is trying to cool the partisan passions so they can "negotiate" later. AlinPA Oct 2013 #49
Pete "Cesspool" Sessions Blue Owl Oct 2013 #51
It is too late for Sessions. Unless Reed and Durbin both deny it. That they both made mistakes. Stuart G Oct 2013 #52
Reed and Durbin were not there. They are basing it on something somebody grantcart Oct 2013 #54
We will find out...soon perhaps. Durbin and Reed will say they got it wrong..that will end it.. Stuart G Oct 2013 #55
Having such pent up hate for the Non-Caucasian who thumped their butts twice laserhaas Oct 2013 #61
Texan. Who'd a thunk that? cui bono Oct 2013 #63
If the MSM is all over it sandyshoes17 Oct 2013 #71
 

kardonb

(777 posts)
56. not surprised...
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 02:15 PM
Oct 2013

they must be putting loco-weed in the water in TX . How else to explain all the nut-cases popping up from that state .

gtar100

(4,192 posts)
68. And too much alcohol. That's the *real* crazy maker.
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 02:15 AM
Oct 2013

We'd be in a much different world if our drug of choice were marijuana and not alcohol.

dreamnightwind

(4,775 posts)
69. Yes
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 03:23 AM
Oct 2013

And certain people are well aware of that, part of what has kept it illegal for so long. Change is gonna come, soon, though only if we stand up and demand it.

 

Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
72. The awesome thing about Wikipedia is...
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 07:11 AM
Oct 2013

...anyone can edit it. If it's missing a section about Sessions' well-documented racist tendencies, then it can be edited and, if it's edited back you can appeal to the Wiki moderators and they can lock it down.

 

SamYeager

(309 posts)
3. This racist asshole is the chairman of the House Rules Committee
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 11:27 AM
Oct 2013

You know, the one that rammed through a rules change so that the shutdown was guaranteed.

Berlum

(7,044 posts)
34. Yes. Sessions (R) squashed the democratic process for Royal Republicon Rule
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 01:07 PM
Oct 2013

Showing one again that Republicons are not just racist, but also Fascist Pigs who HATE all that is good about the United States of America.

Response to RockaFowler (Original post)

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
20. A lot of right wing dysfunction comes out of that state
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 12:16 PM
Oct 2013

That, I believe, is what they poster was referring to.

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
22. I can count at least 26 other states with a "lot of right wing dysfunction". This region
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 12:34 PM
Oct 2013

bashing bullshit has to stop!

I wonder how many phone hours that region bigot has spent to help Democratic candidates win in Texas?

My guess: NONE!

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
31. Steve King and Michelle Bachman
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 01:02 PM
Oct 2013

which way did those states vote. and I live in Iowa? it's generally blue. MN is blue. Relative lives in Austin TX although has been thinking of moving south of the border but she's called herself a yellow dog. I hear more about blue dogs. Both a term nobody knows much of anymore since we just call them Conservadems

 

Hestia

(3,818 posts)
44. Yellow Dog means that you'd vote for a dog rather than a 'publican - at least that is how
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 01:27 PM
Oct 2013

David Pryor, former Senator and Governor from Arkansas, describes the term. Kinda describes me

IrishAyes

(6,151 posts)
65. A Yellow Dog specifically would vote against the Repuke if his opponent were an old mangy yellow dog
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 10:53 PM
Oct 2013

missing one leg and a few teeth.

Zen Democrat

(5,901 posts)
46. Yellow Dogs are Liberal. Yellow Dogs would vote for a yellow dog before a Republican.
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 01:34 PM
Oct 2013

Don't put them in the category of Blue Dogs - which are almost extinct except for the Clintons and their pals like Ed Rendell or Harold Ford, Jr., etc. Yellow Dogs can kick some Blue Dog ass.

You people who don't live in Texas are NOT on the front lines so don't pretend to be. More people from overwhelmingly blue states should move to Texas to counteract the hard core religious vote. These dumbasses are following what their beloved pastor gods say.

GTurck

(826 posts)
74. Yellow dogs....
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 07:13 AM
Oct 2013

are liberal/Progressives in Texas and most of the rest of the country. Blue dog Democrats are conservatives.

Texas is full of so much hubris because of its size and history. It is very impressive but it carries a great deal of human folly and pain.

Hubris comes from thinking that mistakes or weaknesses don't matter when in fact their denial is what drives tragedy . There is much good in Texas but many Texans don't want to acknowledge the state's undeniable weaknesses socially and politically to correct them; instead they boast.

Yellow dogs don't boast about Texas they work to make it better.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
62. Its the neoconfederates
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 09:39 PM
Oct 2013

They bring a lot of negative attention to the Southeast. Sad, really. My wife and I just spent a week in Houston/Galveston to Louisiana border and had a wonderful time and met: some amazing folks.

IrishAyes

(6,151 posts)
64. The post to which you refer WAS extremely excessive and offensive
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 10:49 PM
Oct 2013

But it remains my mission to remind people that not every person who bashes a politician in a particular state is bashing the entire state or region. Otherwise some of us could be accused of America bashing, because yes, there are way too many crooks everywhere you look. Doesn't mean we shouldn't go after them though, no matter their location - or even party.

Your target certainly had it coming himself this time, however.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
25. Ok.So as to not offend some texans
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 12:48 PM
Oct 2013

Let's say "A fucking RW texan". But I'm right there with you. Couldn't agree more. Hell TEXAS voted that idiot cruz into office. That's all I need to know about texass.

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
35. thats a bit better
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 01:10 PM
Oct 2013

need a correction from time to time. either way. just another crazy loon from the Right who thinks he has the moral high ground

efhmc

(14,731 posts)
67. 3,194,927 Texan voted against cruz. 4,440,137 voted for him.
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 11:49 PM
Oct 2013

As usually we were enormously outspent. Our fellow Democrats in other states use us like an ATM to provide money for their candidates but NEVER stoop to help us. You might want to note that all Texans did not vote for this sicko and for you to put us all in that category is WRONG!!!! God, I get so sick of this.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
76. but, but I didn't put all of you
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 12:19 PM
Oct 2013

in one basket.I said RW texans. If that not clear enough, than so be it. A MAJORITY of TEXAS voters put cruz into office. That is that.

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
30. I really don't think that should stay..
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 12:57 PM
Oct 2013

suggest you delete it. State is basically turning Purple don't let the reds win by stooping to their level

bullwinkle428

(20,629 posts)
7. Isn't it incredible that when one refers to "that racist Sessions in Congress",
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 11:33 AM
Oct 2013

the follow-up question is "Which one?", as it could be Pete from Texas, or that well-known Klan apologist Jefferson (how apropos) from Alabama.

lostincalifornia

(3,639 posts)
8. That is who it was then. If the President actually did come out yesterday as sources say, and
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 11:36 AM
Oct 2013

indicate it did not happen, really is confusing

If he is providing some sort of cover for the republicans, then he better pull his head out of his ass, and realize that this racist bullshit has to stop, and this is more than just being directed at him, it is being directed at the office of the presidency, and the people who elected him twice

BumRushDaShow

(129,105 posts)
12. He normally takes the high road
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 11:53 AM
Oct 2013

so as to not give any more fodder to the RW M$M noise machine. As it is, the way that it was revealed adds more levity and note that he and Durbin were once co-Senators from IL, so probably was done as some "hometown" assistance.

And when since can the oppressed "pull their head(s) out of their ass(es)" to realize they are being oppressed? Folks know, trust me. This is just bullshit and people in the "majority" need to fucking step up to the plate and handle this crap dished out by their own.

lostincalifornia

(3,639 posts)
21. The "pull the head out comment" was NEVER directed at the oppressed, it was directed at the
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 12:18 PM
Oct 2013

President for taking as you said "the high road"

It is pretty obvious my post who I was referring to. He is the President of the United States.

Harry Truman shoved it back to Douglas MacArthur when he went out of bounds, and this comment is out of bounds, it is NOT a trivial thing, and the President has been constantly insulted since he assumed the office.

He has been called a liar, and ever other name by these thugs, enough is enough.







politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
24. Truman didn't have a 24/7 newstream/twitter feed/bloggeshpere just itching for this type of BS.
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 12:44 PM
Oct 2013

What's the President to do? Say lets take this out back behind the WH? I'm sorry but it's apparent to me that even many supporters here don't understand the burden that is on this President, with him being the first black president. The right wing lunatic fringe would like nothing more than to get a reaction out of the Angry Black Man. They already make shit up every day. If I could throw a punch on the President's behalf, I would. But I don't want to see my President stoop to their level. Hopefully the next black president, will have an easier time. Hopefully when he's out of office, Malia and Sasha will open a can of whoop ass on the whole bunch. I know I would if it were my parents.

IrishAyes

(6,151 posts)
66. Well said.
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 11:01 PM
Oct 2013

Believe me, I understand. And I personally would love to take the entire GOP out behind the woodshed myself - even though I might need just a little help from some of you guys. I'm no ninja, after all. Just the thought is delicious, though.

cry baby

(6,682 posts)
28. He is a pretender, IMHO.
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 12:53 PM
Oct 2013

He pretends to be polite, but that's all for the CSPAN cameras.

I suspected before that he was just acting, but this incident confirms my suspicions.

dem in texas

(2,674 posts)
10. Pete Sessions is Scum
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 11:44 AM
Oct 2013

During the mortgage bubble, Countrywide gave him a sweetheart deal on a mortgage. He has had a lot of financial problems or so I read in the paper.

I heard him on local radio before they met with Obama saying that the repub's were going to make Obama "an Offer" - Ha! He was so foolish as to think that they had the upper hand.

There is a Pete Sessions blog that documents all the stupid things he does.

You can always count on a Texas repub to say or do something to embarrass the state.

beerandjesus

(1,301 posts)
16. Petey might be in trouble....
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 12:02 PM
Oct 2013
Sessions spokeswoman Torrie Miller said Thursday that the lawmaker never made those comments.

“He did not,” Miller said. “I think it was made clear yesterday from Jay Carney that the exchange you are referring to did not happen.”



So he didn't say it?? Well, I hope he's ready for that primary challenger from the right!
 

Ranchemp.

(1,991 posts)
18. During the press briefing yesterday,
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 12:06 PM
Oct 2013

Jay Carney emphatically denied the incident happened, so, who's telling the truth here?

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
23. Was Durbin in the meeting and a witness?
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 12:37 PM
Oct 2013

Or was Durbin one of the senators informed by an aide?

Because unless he actually witnessed the event, he should never have made it public, or certainly not without confirming it with other actual witnesses. Without good corroboration, it just becomes an embarassment, where it could have been a real, er, "teaching moment."

 

Ranchemp.

(1,991 posts)
27. Jay Carney yesterday denied the incident ever happened,
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 12:50 PM
Oct 2013

so, like you, I think Sen. Durbin shouldn't have even put it out there in the public.

 

Ranchemp.

(1,991 posts)
75. Maybe Jay Carney denied that it happened because
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 12:06 PM
Oct 2013

it really didn't happen the way it was reported?

dreamnightwind

(4,775 posts)
60. He wasn't a witness
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 06:36 PM
Oct 2013

I read somewhere else that Durbin learned about it from someone else's account of what happened in the meeting. Something nasty probably happened, but I bet it got twisted as it went down the grapevine, explaining at least in part Obama's denial.

 

Ranchemp.

(1,991 posts)
36. This has been refuted by the White House.
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 01:10 PM
Oct 2013
http://www.businessinsider.com/dick-durbin-quote-obama-gop-leader-cannot-stand-look-at-you-2013-10

The White House said Thursday that it contributed to a "misunderstanding" that led the Senate's No. 2 Democrat to accuse a "House GOP leader" of telling President Barack Obama that he "cannot even stand to look at" him.

Durbin claimed in a weekend Facebook post that a House GOP leader told President Barack Obama that the leader "cannot even stand to look at" him during a recent negotiation over the government shutdown and raising the nation's debt ceiling.

Both the White House and House Republican leadership refuted the quote after it gained traction on Wednesday. On Thursday, a White House official said that there was a "miscommunication" when the White House provided a readout of the meeting to Senate Democrats.

“While the quote attributed to a Republican lawmaker in the House GOP meeting with the President is not accurate, there was a miscommunication when the White House read out that meeting to Senate Democrats, and we regret the misunderstanding," the White House official said in a statement.


Stuart G

(38,436 posts)
37. If I were a betting man, I would bet that Sessions did say this.
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 01:13 PM
Oct 2013

It would be kinda honorable to deny it ...and Obama has class. .....
Not trying to take the country to the level that Sessions is at.
But my gut says, yes he said it, and was proud of it..

AlinPA

(15,071 posts)
50. They are trying cool partisan passions. I don't think it is "throwing him under the bus".
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 01:45 PM
Oct 2013

Notice they are now saying "miscommunication", always a good way to cover things over.

ffr

(22,670 posts)
42. Reading the full story, it sounds like there's no story.
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 01:25 PM
Oct 2013
On Wednesday, White House Press Secretary Jay Carney flatly dismissed the story.

“I looked into this and spoke with somebody who was in that meeting and it did not happen,” Carney said during his daily briefing.

Sessions spokeswoman Torrie Miller said Thursday that the lawmaker never made those comments.

“He did not,” Miller said. “I think it was made clear yesterday from Jay Carney that the exchange you are referring to did not happen.”


What's confusing is the WH denies the exchange. Session's Spokesperson denies the exchange, but Durbin does not refute what he said about what was said.

And Boehner can just go pound sand, the douchebag that he is! And Sessions is a Tea-hadist from Waco, TX. So, I'm leaning towards that it did take place and the story is true.

AlinPA

(15,071 posts)
49. The WH is trying to cool the partisan passions so they can "negotiate" later.
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 01:41 PM
Oct 2013

To me what is odd is that the GOP wants an apology for something that makes their base happy. IMO whoever said it is proud today that he/she insulted the Black President and pleased their base in doing so.

Stuart G

(38,436 posts)
52. It is too late for Sessions. Unless Reed and Durbin both deny it. That they both made mistakes.
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 02:03 PM
Oct 2013

and both were wrong, unless that happens, I believe their version.. Now, Obama is trying to cool heads. Sessions could not admit it..... Reed has more truthfulness than any because of the interactions with Boehner ...Why? cause Boehner did indeed finally admit that there was a deal, that he could not keep.
So...because Reed has been correct on this ugly stuff before, people would believe him. Don't know about Durbin, but what would be the reason that he made it up?? Reed has got to deny it, which hasn't happened yet..Evidently, it is the opposite. If Reed makes a statement saying he is wrong..I will go with him, although it took him a long time to get ..a backbone...

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
54. Reed and Durbin were not there. They are basing it on something somebody
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 02:10 PM
Oct 2013

at the White House said.

Durbin and Reed shouldn't have been referring to anything this sensitive unless they heard it personally.
 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
61. Having such pent up hate for the Non-Caucasian who thumped their butts twice
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 06:39 PM
Oct 2013

may (hopefully one day soon) - cause them to implode.

sandyshoes17

(657 posts)
71. If the MSM is all over it
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 06:57 AM
Oct 2013

It's only for GOP benefit. He will become a hero to his base, and it will erase the anger they have for him "caving to the dems". The fools that they are, they will all try to one up him, it can get out of hand with these idiots. IMO they should just let it go. The media is doing this to help them

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