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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 01:37 PM Oct 2013

Flood Insurance Jumping Sevenfold Depresses U.S. Home Values

By Toluse Olorunnipa - Oct 24, 2013

Rangel Dockery and her husband bought a waterfront house in Florida four months ago, assuming their $2,000-a-year flood-insurance premium would remain about the same. After reading recently about a change in the federal flood program, they checked on next year’s rates and were stunned: Their bill will grow to $14,000 annually.

Now the elementary school teacher and her husband, Clint, an information technology specialist, are considering selling their two-bedroom St. Pete Beach home, probably at a loss, because she said they can’t afford the bill, and their mortgage requires flood coverage.

“It was very frustrating to finally have what we’ve worked hard for all of our life,” Rangel Dockery, 52, said. “I feel like the rules were changed in the middle of the game. And unfortunately, we can’t play by the new rules.”

Monthly premiums for more than 1 million homeowners are set to increase due to a rewrite by the U.S. Congress last year of the federal flood insurance program. As a result, home prices in flood zones around the country are declining as potential buyers balk at the premiums, said Moe Veissi, a Miami real estate agent who led the Chicago-based National Association of Realtors last year.

Federal flood insurance covers $1.3 trillion of property in all 50 states, with Florida, Texas, Louisiana, California and New Jersey making up two-thirds of all policies, according to Federal Emergency Management Agency, which runs the program.

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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-10-24/flood-insurance-price-increases-prompt-owners-to-plan-home-sales.html

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4Q2u2

(1,406 posts)
1. Posted this in Mass group
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 01:55 PM
Oct 2013

It is killing average people everywhere. It is almost impossible to dispute. You have to prove that their methodology was faulty. So just to fight it you need to hire outside help, and the chances of winning are almost nil. It is pretty upsetting when your own government forces you out of your house. I am pretty sure that is not really what most Americans want from a Government.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
2. Its been getting some media coverage in FL.
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 02:14 PM
Oct 2013

What is weird, is that the biggest increases aren't the expensive beach-front homes like you'd expect. Instead, its the small middle to lower priced "retirement" homes nowhere near the water and which have never been flooded. There doesn't appear to be any sort of rationality to the methodology.

 

dbackjon

(6,578 posts)
3. GOOD!! Floodplains, coasts are NO PLACE to build anything
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 02:23 PM
Oct 2013

We have been destroying the environment, and as taxpayers, bailing out irresponsible homeowners and business that build in flood zones for decades.


Time to stop the foolishness.


You want to live on the coast, or in a flood plain? Do it at your own risk.

 

loli phabay

(5,580 posts)
8. does the same apply in tornado country or earthquake or wildfire country
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 07:48 PM
Oct 2013

Is there anywhere people are allowed, and everyone no matter where you live there are risks.

 

dbackjon

(6,578 posts)
10. Yes, there are risks
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 08:04 PM
Oct 2013

But the risks should be minimized. It is insanity to build on flood plains.

Tornados are random. Floods aren't. My house won't flood from mother nature. That I can guarantee. My family farmhouse will never flood. But the morons that built their pretty house creekside have flooded three times in my lifetime.


You can strengthen a house to withstand most quakes. This should be required.


Easiest of all is to NOT BUILD IN FLOODPLAINS.

eqfan592

(5,963 posts)
13. Of course, you're ignoring people who live in areas that are literally NOTHING BUT floodplains...
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 12:26 PM
Nov 2013

...where "Not building in a floodplain" would basically mean relocating the entire city. Or people who bought pre-existing homes, etc. Sorry, but this is a bad way to deal with the situation.

 

dbackjon

(6,578 posts)
14. Then relocate, have the local government build better levees
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 12:57 PM
Nov 2013

Or pay the higher premiums and be glad you can get insurance at all.

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
4. FEMA is issuing new floodplain maps that better account for storm surges
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 02:30 PM
Oct 2013

They are getting better at predicting how tides, winds, and storm surges flow inland, cross barrier beaches, and surge around obstacles.

Generally they put more area at risk and increase the minimum level to which structures must be elevated.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
5. PBS "This Old House" is doing a series on Raising Homes above Flood Level
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 02:31 PM
Oct 2013

on the Jersey Shore. I've read some people in CT are also paying $100,000 and up to have their homes raised up on Stilts because that's cheaper than paying the flood insurance.

The "This Old House" episode is featuring three different houses in size. One was a small 1940's type house on the bay and they tore it down and are putting in pilings to rebuild but the other two houses are being jacked up for the pilings.

Sad thing is that the neighborhoods these houses are in are not on the ocean (waterfront) and the houses around them aren't being jacked up. So, it's only if you can either afford the high insurance or you pay for the jack up.

It seems like it could be a mess for many who live year round who have older properties and maybe retired and can't afford to do this. Either sell at a loss or do without insurance if it's paid off or pay the insurance or try to get loan to do the jack up.

It does seem unfair to those who've already gone through a disaster to hit them now.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
7. I think there's part of that...but others who live there...who are Hurting...
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 07:39 PM
Oct 2013

and who don't have money to pay the new Flood Insurance...(sell it off to a Hedge Fund...(Blackstone) and they can build new and make money.

Or.......what is the alternative? Wall Street Hedge Fund wins either way.

CatWoman

(79,302 posts)
12. wonder if any or all of this is due to global warming
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 07:52 PM
Oct 2013

we have seen firsthand the rise of both the intensity of storms followed by flooding.

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