but they choose the ACA? And they want us to believe its not about politics?

ACA puts more people in the medical insurance system so you'd think the predators would be thrilled. Instead they hate it because insurance is being forced to pay up....on time...and forces them to spend more on providing care than on CEO golf trips.

Edit to add I hope I'm still on the planet when ee finally decide to get insurance out of the equation.

Remember? The guy who ran the default project.

. . .who now calls the shots at the Heritage Foundation.

Guy's a fuckin' grifter. It's all about him AND Ted Cruz.

http://www.salon.com/2013/08/30/gops_destructive_grifter_jim_demint_peddles_political_poison/

"Charles and David Koch also have been involved in, and have provided funding to, a number of other think tanks and advocacy organizations: They provided the initial funding for the Cato Institute, they are key donors to the Federalist Society,[22] and they also support, or are members of, the Mercatus Center, the Institute for Humane Studies, the Institute for Justice, the Alexis de Tocqueville Institution, the Institute for Energy Research, the Foundation for Research on Economics and the Environment, Heritage Foundation, the Manhattan Institute, the George C. Marshall Institute, the Reason Foundation, the American Enterprise Institute,[27][28] the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC),[29] and the Fraser Institute.[30][31] As of 2011, David Koch sits on the board of directors of the Cato institute,[32] the Reason Foundation and the Aspen Institute.

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Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act

Koch brothers-funded groups including Americans for Prosperity, Pacific Research Institute, Center to Protect Patient Rights, and Generation Opportunity[72] oppose the 2010 Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (PPACA) commonly called Obamacare, favoring a free-market approach.[73][74]

Koch brothers-funded Americans for Prosperity and Generation Opportunity[75] ran more than $3 million worth of advertisements opposing the Affordable Care Act, including a series of ads in which Uncle Sam was depicted as a "creepy" doctor. The ads are directed at women and young adults, and are designed to "undermine confidence"[76] and to dissuade younger people from enrolling in health care coverage through exchanges which opened October 1, 2013.[73][77][78] In October 2013, the Americans for Prosperity group began a campaign to oppose "Obamacare" in the state of Virginia.[79]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_activities_of_the_Koch_brothers

Additionally, they do not like Social Security but they do like Scott Walker.

Sam

CrossChris (641 posts) Thu Feb-24-11 11:32 AM

The Rightwing Koch Brothers fund the DLC -- article from '06
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x498414

I saw this posted elsewhere recently, and thought this was very interesting to revisit:

http://www.democrats.com/node/7789

The Rightwing Koch Brothers fund the DLC

Do deep-pocketed "philanthropists" necessarily control the organizations they fund? That has certainly been the contention of those who truck in conspiracy theories about the Rockefeller and Ford Foundations funding liberal and neo-liberal organizations. As for the rightwing, journalists such as Joe Conason and Gene Lyons uncovered that the "vast right wing conspiracy" -- or the New Right network of think tanks, media outlets and pressure groups -- was marshalled under rightwing billionaire Richard Mellon Scaife for his Get-Clinton campaign. Prior to the work of Conason and Lyons, Russ Bellant extensively documented in "The Coors Connection" how the Coors Family, Scaife and other wealthy rightwingers have funded the New Right movement since the early '70's. Among these rightwing benefactors are the Koch brothers. But the Kochs have been working both sides of the fence. As Bill Berkowitz writes, the Koch brothers have also been funding the Democratic Leadership Council.

According to SourceWatch, a project of the Center for Media & Democracy, the brothers are "leading contributors to the Koch family foundations, which supports a network of Conservative organizations and think tanks, including Citizens for a Sound Economy, the Manhattan Institute the Heartland Institute, and the Democratic Leadership Council."

Charles Koch co-founded the Cato Institute in 1977, while David helped launch Citizens for a Sound Economy in 1986.

This is no less stunning than if Scaife or the Coors family were funding the DLC. So do the Kochs just throw money at the DLC -- as long as the Council supports a free-market" (i.e. unrestricted/unregulated corporate power) agenda that the Kochs generally agree with. Or is it more than just that -- does this really buttress what Greens and other disaffected liberals contend -- that the DNC has just become a party of "Republicrats", thanks especially to the DLC? They would say that corporate backers like the rightwing/libertarian Kochs have co-opted the Democratic establishment -- a hostile takeover of (what was once) the opposition. (continued)

Koch Industries gave funding to the DLC and served on its Executive Council
http://americablog.com/2010/08/koch-industries-gave-funding-to-the-dlc-and-served-on-its-executive-council.html

The Kochs aren't printing up 80 billion per month. Hate them but perspective might be a good thing

And every time Democrats slam the Kochs the Clintons slap their knees in laughter

Ranting and raving against them and getting flamed a lot for doing so. Eventually, people started paying more attention and turned against them. Now the DLC is the New Dems.

And yes, the DLC proudly bragged Bill Clinton was the first DLC home-grown president.

Sam

pay full price for medical care, that means you are hated by Gawd because you have been bad, and you are supposed to die.

Providing Bad People (TM) with medical care shows open defiance of Gawd's will.

thanks Triana

The ACA is a tax levy, their plan was a tax credit. Huge difference.

I think we understand by now that only wealthy people need help to get more.
Oh, do I really need the sarcasm thing?

They guy was bragging about their success. He said they just have to wait 10-20 years and the "democrats" will be pushing to implement their ideas while Heritage crafts the next wave. Looks like he was right.

because if anyone ever tells the crazies in the Tea Party that what got enacted is actually the Republican Solution to the problem of inadequate access to healthcare in America, the GOP is gong to be quite a bit more fucked than they are right now (yes, it's possible), and so now Heritage has to kick their own puppy just as hard as they can, because it's easier than explaining to the crazies that there's a difference between a dog and a wolf.