So jealous.

It was kind of him to pull that secret lever under his desk, eh?

Whenever gas prices go up I have to listen to my dumb ass relatives complain.


Like it was Obama's fault they bought some shitty SUV that gets 9 MPG.

considering I remember when I first started teaching, way back,
that it was $.45 !

Was .88 a gallon when I started driving.

then I think $2.94 north of KCMO.

Should be comparable in Mn, at least in the Rochester area. I always gassed up in Austin, or Wabasha, before crossing in to Wisconsin, where it was always a dime or so more per gallon.

That's about $5.50 per gallon, if I still can do conversions in my head. Diesel, OTOH, is about half the price (that's what my car uses).

Or has the rupee been devalued too..

although the lowest-denomination coin seems to be 25 paise.

By the way, the new 2 rupee coin shows two fingers in a "V" formation to indicate the value in addition to the number 2.

They probably get more use out in the country; here in Mumbai even a cup of tea from a stall is ₹5 or ₹6 and VAT always rounds to the nearest rupee.

Rupees are now notionally divided into 100 paise, but the lowest denomination minted is the 1-rupee coin (and they're thinking of getting rid of it, though the single rupee would remain the fundamental unit of account).

Interestingly, the highest denomination banknote printed is just ₹1000, which is about $17 or so at current exchanges (I'd put it at about $100 in terms of local purchasing power, and that's in Mumbai which is absurdly richer than the rest of the country).

$4.29 a gallon on Kaua'i!

I was on Kauai last month for a week, my annual Kauai trip. I did notice gas wasn't too bad this year. Highest price I saw was in Princeville, as usual

Yeah, even Kaua'i has gone.. it's just that $2.75 a gallon looked so good and I don't even drive anymore.

I'd take that trade.

why I left upstate NY and went back to retire on Kaua'i. And, wouldn't you know it.. I miss my friends and the other Seasons and I have to remind myself how miserable I was in Winter a lot of the times.

Thanks P.S. that's pretty damn cold for late October! I didn't even need a blanket last night with all my fans on!

CT is the worst! Drive twenty minutes over the state line to MA and it's 30-50 cents cheaper. Even from town to town it varies by up to 20 cents because we have something called "regional pricing." The rich folks near NYC get charged way more, and if you happen to live near them, you pay, too.

They only remember when it was 2/gallon.......................................after Bush broke the economy and the bottom fell out of everything.

at Costco.

I am still paying about 3.70 in CT. Thanks, Obama.

Not okay for the long run...$2.75 or below price makes transition to electric cars difficult

lowest in the country and yet we drive less miles per capita than any other State. Yes, those paying the least to dive also drive the least. This contradicts the notion that folks need to be hijacked into alternative modes or conservation.
"Eight states representing nearly one-quarter of America's auto market have signed a pact to boost the use of electric cars, hoping to add 3.3 million zero-emission vehicles to their roads by 2025.
"We can't go out and force people to buy cars, and we have no intention of doing that. ... But we're in the midst of a transformation. Our job is to make it happen faster and more successfully."
In addition to California, the pact includes Connecticut, Maryland, Massachusetts, New York, Oregon, Rhode Island and Vermont. Each state already has policies in place to encourage the use of zero-emission cars, seeing them as a key weapon against air pollution and global warming."
http://www.sfgate.com/business/article/8-states-sign-deal-to-boost-electric-car-sales-4923827.php

Just Kidding (kinda).


The previous post has some validity. If the out of pocket cost of driving a car that uses gasoline is lower it makes the switch to an electric vehicle less attractive.

The math is more difficult when you consider the up front cost of an EV. If you only save $20.00 a month by using the EV instead of $50.00 a month there may not be enough of a financial incentive to spend the extra money on your car payment. When you consider the limited range of pure EVs then those vehicles look even less attractive.


What really should happen is an increase in gasoline taxes. The price is low enough now that most people wouldn't notice a 10% cost increase and that money could be spent on roads which would create more jobs.


P.S. I am sure that Oregon is a beautiful place and a wonderful place to live. Please don't take me seriously, I am just a smart ass.

Philadelphia suburbs. The price in Philly - at least the Far Northeast - is within a few cents. It's steadily gone down over the past month or so.

I'll be getting it for 10 cents cheaper due to grocery store points (though....Giant bumps it's base gas price up a few cents over the local average, so savings are more like $0.04 cents to $0.05 cents).

They say it is falling until Christmas, I used grocery store reward points and paid 3.00 per the other day and I'd love to see 2.75!!!!

But, I had 25 cents off per gallon from the supermarket rewards card, so I paid under $3. Nice. I filled up the car and the gas can for the snowblower, which will soon be back in service (Ugh!).

Can't complain!

Because of shit like this that comes with us burning those cheap fossil fuels:

http://www.livescience.com/40676-arctic-temperatures-record-high.html

I use one tank of gas a month (regardless of cost) This saved me about 11 bucks from when it was almost 4 a gallon. That's eleven bucks I can maybe spend on a few more groceries or put towards the light bill that's getting out of control. When your entire paycheck goes towards rent and student loans an extra ten dollars at the end of the month means a lot.

Sorry I'm not as privileged as you.

It's about the world we leave for the generations to come, not to mention the uncountable species we'll wipe out as the planet warms and is polluted due to our actions.

But that's the predicament we've gotten ourselves into: we see everything in terms of dollar amounts. Even the very survival of human civilization itself.

Food costs dollars. The world (unfortunately) doesn't run on sunshine and rainbows. Your computer is sucking up electricity from fossil fuels as we speak, yet you're still typing away.


Way to go though. Put the burden of climate change solely on the poor and lower middle class. Very progressive of you. I'm sorry my extra 10-11 dollars offends you so much, you'll get over it.

For example, the world leader in absolute greenhouse gas emissions is China, with nations like India and many African nations striving to do the same. Growth in greenhouse gases today is being driven in large part by the poor globally, as they aspire to become middle class, complete with nice houses, private vehicles, better diets, etc, etc. Climate change absolutely fails as a progressive rights issue in this respect. We could turn every millionaire in the world into biofuel right now, and it wouldn't make a bit of difference in fighting global warming. Sorry that the truth isn't to your liking, but it is what it is.

I'm also sorry for us all, that we've allowed a century or more of unrestrained capitalism to exploit the planet to the point that there are no good decisions left that don't cause someone, somewhere, pain. Either you feel pain now, or my daughter and millions of others feel the pain 20 years from now.

BTW, I just realized how apt your user name is in this discussion. We are literally forgoing the consequences of our actions for short term gains, the long-term survival of our planet be damned.

If I had made a thread saying "FUCK YEAH CHEAP GAS MY CAR HAS BEEN IDLING FOR 24 HOURS STRAIGHT, FUCK THE PLANET, THANKS OBAMA". Then maybe you would have a point.

But...

1) I live in Iowa, I work in social services.....some of my clients are 80-90 miles away. Now thankfully I get a car at work but getting to those people takes gas and the more fuel goes up the less money my organization has to help those people.


2) I use the same amount of gas every month. Whether it's 7/gallon or 1/gallon (i already explained this but apparently you didn't get it the first time) I need to get to work.

3) Unless you're typing on this right now, you're a total fucking hypocrite.





Again, sorry my 11 dollars offends you. I'll try not to act too smug when I'm buying the ingredients to make stuffed peppers with my extra cash.

but I paid about $3.29 at the QT here in Woodstock, GA. I have not been filling up in hopes that the prices come down soon. But it cost me about $13 for a half tank. Fortunately, I am retired and do not have to drive to and from my job, so a half tank lasts about two weeks.

Low gas prices encourage higher consumption, but high gas prices are like a recessive tax. Maybe we should have a progressive sales tax on gas that slowly ratchets up over time until we are much less dependent on it.

If you have ever watched Raising Hope ^^^^