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MADem

(135,425 posts)
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 05:07 AM Oct 2013

Tom Matzzie, American Hero. This is so much FUN on so many levels.....






http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2013/10/24/this-dude-just-eavesdropped-on-former-nsa-director-michael-hayden-and-hes-tweeting-about-it/?tid=pm_business_pop

.... the former NSA director nestled into a regular coach seat and soon began what for many travelers is an Amtrak ritual: talking, often nonstop, on a cellphone as the train rolled on.
A passenger a few seats away couldn’t help but be intrigued by the conversation, which included chatter about President Obama’s 2008 BlackBerry, specially modified to block foreign eavesdropping.
Could it be James Clapper? Tom Matzzie wondered, referring to the director of national intelligence. But why would a sitting official be talking so openly about CIA black sites and rendition?
It took nearly half an hour, but then it clicked for Matzzie, a former Washington director of the political group MoveOn.org. He whipped out his phone and began tweeting....

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2013/10/24/inside-former-nsa-chief-michael-haydens-interview-with-an-amtrak-live-tweeter/?tid=pm_business_pop
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malaise

(269,004 posts)
1. Hilarious
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 05:09 AM
Oct 2013

But why would a sitting official be talking so openly about CIA black sites and rendition?

To think he was in charge of the NSA

That part isn't funny

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
2. I'm still in stunned disbelief about this story
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 05:15 AM
Oct 2013

No one has come forward and screamed "PSYCH!!" so I guess it's true. I just cannot imagine someone with the *assumed* intelligence and savvy of an ex-NSA director doing this in public.

*shakes head in disbelief*

malaise

(269,004 posts)
4. *assumed* intelligence and savvy
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 05:21 AM
Oct 2013

Like FEMA's Brownie. Bushco was full of incompetents - they only had to be supporters of all that was evil.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
5. Pure hubris. He thought he was untouchable. What was he doing in coach, on the Acela?
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 05:22 AM
Oct 2013

Surely such a big cheese as himself could afford Biz Class?

It's good that POTUS and crew know who to look out for...!

JHB

(37,160 posts)
12. The Acela has no coach: only Business Class and First Calss
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 10:21 AM
Oct 2013

Would have been business class. Bet the Post guy who wrote that hasn't seen a real coach seat in years.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
13. I guess on the Acela, "Business Class" is a euphemism for "Coach!"
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 11:15 AM
Oct 2013

The eavesdropper even called it that in one of his tweets...

Bob Brewin ?@BobBrewin 17h
Was Hayden riding coach or first class on Acela? @tommatzzie

Tom Matzzie ?@tommatzzie 16h
@BobBrewin coach


https://twitter.com/tommatzzie

JHB

(37,160 posts)
18. Or just sloppy thinking/wording for "the default ticket".
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 12:27 PM
Oct 2013

On a regular Amtrak train, coach is default, and you have to upgrade for business or first.

On Acela trains, business is default so it's the "coach" of Acela trains.

I take Amtrak a couple times a year (some coach, some business), so I know the different pricing, but not often enough to know the frequent riders' jargon.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
19. I usually take the Limoliner when I go to NYC!
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 01:55 PM
Oct 2013

Same price as coach (regular, cheapo) AMTRAK, seats are way more comfortable and they give you a meal!

When I go to DC, I fly into Bawl-more and take a bus to the metro. Save a bundle that way.

I wish Amtrak would get the spirit--if they'd start allowing pets on the train, their ridership would double. And people would pay through the nose to take Fluffy or Spot with them.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
3. Because he's George Bush's idiot appointee, and he looks like the evil guy in the Indiana Jones film
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 05:19 AM
Oct 2013

with the medallion burnt into his hand!!!!

longship

(40,416 posts)
6. This is so beautiful.
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 05:25 AM
Oct 2013

Matzzie knew he was busted. But Hayden knew he was also busted. The fact that Hayden allowed himself to be photographed with Matzzie after the encounter is the jelly in the jelly doughnut.

On so many levels, this is awesome fun.


What did it for me is this:

"I am totally busted I think," he wrote in one tweet. That was followed shortly after by "No rendition yet. Do I have the [guts] to ask him for a photo? #haydenacela"


And of course, he did ask, as the pic in the OP attests.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
15. The bit that had me giggling like a first grader was "Do I hide?"
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 11:23 AM
Oct 2013

I would have loved to have been in the next seat to Matzzie, egging him on, but I probably would have given it away with my uproarious laughter!

MADem

(135,425 posts)
16. Well, it didn't matter what he said, precisely, really.
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 11:37 AM
Oct 2013

It just mattered that when anyone now reads "former senior administration official" talking on NSA or other security issues in the paper, that they think of Blabbermouth Hayden and how he's still prostituting himself for a bit o' covert glory.

We know two things we didn't know before--Hayden's a Bigmouth, first, and he's probably the source of a lot of the nasty "security related" insults directed at POTUS that we read on background, second...and now everyone knows it! Hayden got a great big pie in the face, courtesy of an environmental activist who used to work at MoveOn.Org! Hayden can downplay what happened, or he can harrumph all the live long day, but he's busted as a "Chatty Cathy" and people will regard him as both gossipy and intemperate. Want something to get leaked to the press? Tell Hotlips Hayden! Shhh, stop talking, here comes Hayden, he can't be trusted to keep a secret!!!

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