I knew it. "So it's lying bullshit that they gave him time to drop the fake gun." They wanted to kill someone that afternoon and they found a black kid with a toy gun, and no matter how "real" the gun looked, they knew better and they killed him.

They should be put in prison, not on admin leave.

and you're right now. Charge them.

The kid could have turned into a zombie after only two rounds and eaten our brains, so we fired six more.


"Everyone went home safe today." Says every cop after they shoot somebody.

ugh.

Usually, they don't, is what that means.

How sad that we have come to this, where they are killing us indiscriminately, with only the flimsiest of excuses.

I hate cops. We really need to defund them, and we can do this with our votes, on a local level.

Perhaps you can show me the lie where the police reported engaging in a longer interaction with the teen.

how many times have you run through this scenario?

by then, it was too late for the trigger happy killers, and they put nine slugs into the boy.

We need to defund the police. Run for judge, stop the money from flowing in from their predatory tactics, and start downsizing the police forces.

Betcha you got that pic of the cop carrying the milk jugs somewhere in a file, right? Now would be the time to post it.

and that's when they shot him.

Haven't you been paying attention?

Who do you think you're kidding. It's already been reported that there are witnesses to the murder saying that cop shot the kid in the back! Yet, you continue to spout the pro-cop storyline.

I'm sorry, dude, but I used to play with toy guns as a kid all the time. My son had a BB gun and an airgun. When the day comes that we have to worry about cops shooting kids with toy guns, we need to start questioning ourselves.

These cops killed a kid with a toy gun. Period. They are murderers. Period.

What do you think is going to happen when NRA types, who are carrying around guns on our streets, in our stores, etc., are shot just because they have guns? There will be hell to pay.

And this was s thirteen year old boy. THIRTEEN. With a toy gun.

it was 7 slugs.

http://blogs.kqed.org/newsfix/2013/10/24/sonoma-county-deputy-shot-santa-rosa-teenager-seven-times/

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I keep putting myself in the boys shoes, 10 seconds and probably less interaction time than that since they were in the car when they spotted him. How many seconds before the boy realizes they are speaking to him? He's not doing anything wrong, surprised and perhaps shocked to hear police. Probably thinking what is going on? A pause and perhaps the realization they are speaking to him. How long does all that take? I realize cops put their lives on the line but somewhere there has to be some common sense.

Teenage kid does stupid thing, walking through the neighborhood with realistic-looking toy gun, and has fake (but realistic-looking) toy pistol jammed in his pants.

Cops get all jumpy and start blasting away before the kid can even react to the command.

Going to be repercussions on the 2 cops involved, and the kid's family will sue, no doubt about that.

Oh, Jesus Christ. Now our sons can not merely walk to a friend's house? That is utter bullshit.

The cop is a murderer. The boy had every right to go over to a friend's house to play.

The point is, when I was 13, I could walk up to my firends house up the street with me carrying a toy gun, I lived in a small town, and kids back then even went to school with hunting rifles, since many would go deer hunting right after school.
(Early 1970's, BTW)

But a kid walking through a neighborhood, in a city, where maybe one guy on the block has a gun for hunting, and there's been shootings and crime.

He's carrying not one, but two realistic-looking toy guns, add to that scared cops, (at least one is new on the job,) who blast away after only a few seconds.

I think the cops involved will lose their job.

And the city will pay the family of the kid who was shot, millions.

paranoia. My son should never leave the house again when such ideas take over society.

I've read that it was only 10 seconds from when the cops called the stop in, until the shots were fired. I've also read that it was 26 seconds.

My understanding is that the deputy that fired the shots is a 24-year veteran, and the other deputy was a new hire, that had 11 years of experience in another department.

I could be wrong, but I'm assuming that both deputies were in position to shoot the "suspect" when the incident happened.

My question is: Why did only one deputy feel it was necessary to fire? The other deputy didn't fire a single shot, even though he was seeing the exact same thing. It sounds like one deputy feared that he was in imminent danger, and that the other one didn't. That alone puts the justification for the shooting in doubt.

heart sick for that poor boy and his family. One shot could be a mistake but seven shots sounds like a trigger happy pig, jmo.

and they looked one helluva lot more realistic when I was a kid, too.

Very small town, local boys and we needed to withdraw some money to buy shells.
Nobody even blinked. It was a different time to be sure,
but 10 seconds to a 13 year old is nothing.
I'm willing to bet the last thing that poor kid thought was
"Are they talking to me?"

We did stupid things like take the tips off our realistic paintball guns as kids and went out to shoot them because it looked 'cooler'. The poor kid just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. It could have happened to myself or any of my friends and at that age I'd not have thought twice about turning around with what I knew to be a toy gun when shouted at.

As for the cops, the jury is still out. The cop could have feasibly never been in that sort of situation before and was on a hair trigger because of nerves causing he/she to fire more than necessary. Now that cop has to live with the death of this little boy for the rest of their life.