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xchrom

(108,903 posts) Fri Oct 25, 2013, 07:40 AM Oct 2013

European Leaders Say Latest Spying Revelations Have Destroyed Their Trust In The US Government

http://www.businessinsider.com/european-leaders-say-latest-spying-revelations-have-destroyed-their-trust-in-the-us-government-2013-10

BRUSSELS (AP) — European leaders united in anger as they attended a summit overshadowed by reports of widespread U.S. spying on its allies — allegations German Chancellor Angela Merkel said had shattered trust in the Obama administration and undermined the crucial trans-Atlantic relationship.

The latest revelations that the U.S. National Security Agency swept up more than 70 million phone records in France and may have tapped Merkel's own cellphone brought denunciations Thursday from the French and German governments.

Merkel's unusually stern remarks as she arrived at the European Union gathering indicated she wasn't placated by a phone conversation she had Wednesday with President Barack Obama, or his personal assurances that the U.S. is not listening in on her calls now.

"We need trust among allies and partners," Merkel told reporters in Brussels. "Such trust now has to be built anew. This is what we have to think about."

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European Leaders Say Latest Spying Revelations Have Destroyed Their Trust In The US Government (Original Post) xchrom Oct 2013 OP

Europeans are in league with Paulites Ichingcarpenter Oct 2013 #1

Yup nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #2

! xchrom Oct 2013 #3

October 1, 2015 headline: "EU leaders knew about US spying all along..." stevenleser Oct 2013 #4

GERMAN SPY CHIEFS TO HEAD TO US FOR SPYING TALKS xchrom Oct 2013 #5

AP SOURCES: FOREIGN HELP TO US COULD BE EXPOSED xchrom Oct 2013 #6

Yep, just as I suggested. That didn't take long. nt stevenleser Oct 2013 #7

Not long at all. randome Oct 2013 #9

EU says distrust of US on spying may harm terror fight xchrom Oct 2013 #8

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)

1. Europeans are in league with Paulites

Reply to xchrom (Original post)

Fri Oct 25, 2013, 07:45 AM

Oct 2013

and are just whining to help the republicans because of european racism.

That's what I read on DU.

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)

2. Yup

Reply to Ichingcarpenter (Reply #1)

Fri Oct 25, 2013, 08:02 AM

Oct 2013

xchrom

(108,903 posts)

3. !

Reply to Ichingcarpenter (Reply #1)

Fri Oct 25, 2013, 08:07 AM

Oct 2013

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)

4. October 1, 2015 headline: "EU leaders knew about US spying all along..."

Reply to xchrom (Original post)

Fri Oct 25, 2013, 08:08 AM

Oct 2013

Much like the recent headline "Pakistani leaders agreed with drone strikes all along, even fed the US targets..." whereas only a year ago, we were getting expressions of outrage from Pakistan regarding drone strikes.

All we need to do is wait for it.

xchrom

(108,903 posts)

5. GERMAN SPY CHIEFS TO HEAD TO US FOR SPYING TALKS

Reply to xchrom (Original post)

Fri Oct 25, 2013, 08:20 AM

Oct 2013

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_EUROPE_US_SPYING?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2013-10-25-08-07-50

BRUSSELS (AP) -- Senior German officials will travel to the U.S. "shortly" to talk with the White House and the National Security Agency about spying allegations, including how Chancellor Angela Merkel's cellphone was allegedly monitored by the NSA.

Government spokesman Georg Streiter said Friday that the heads of Germany's foreign and domestic intelligence agencies would participate in the talks. He did not give a specific date for the trip, saying it was being arranged on "relatively short notice."

At a summit Friday in Brussels, European Union leaders vowed to maintain a strong trans-Atlantic partnership despite their anger over allegations of widespread U.S. spying on allies.

But France and Germany say new surveillance rules should be agreed upon with the U.S. this year.

xchrom

(108,903 posts)

6. AP SOURCES: FOREIGN HELP TO US COULD BE EXPOSED

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Fri Oct 25, 2013, 08:22 AM

Oct 2013

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_NSA_FOREIGN_COUNTRIES?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2013-10-25-08-11-23

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Two Western diplomats say U.S. officials have briefed them on documents obtained by former National Security Agency contractor Edward Snowden that might expose the intelligence operations of their respective countries and their level of cooperation with the U.S.

Word of the briefings by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence comes amid questions swirling around overseas surveillance by the National Security Agency, which has angered allies on two continents and caused concern domestically over the scope of the intelligence-gathering.

The two Western diplomats said officials from ODNI have continued to brief them regularly on what documents the director of national intelligence believes Snowden obtained.

The diplomats spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the intelligence briefings publicly.

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)

7. Yep, just as I suggested. That didn't take long. nt

Reply to xchrom (Reply #6)

Fri Oct 25, 2013, 08:25 AM

Oct 2013

randome

(34,845 posts)

9. Not long at all.

Reply to stevenleser (Reply #7)

Fri Oct 25, 2013, 09:11 AM

Oct 2013

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Treat your body like a machine. Your mind like a castle.[/center][/font][hr]

xchrom

(108,903 posts)

8. EU says distrust of US on spying may harm terror fight

Reply to xchrom (Original post)

Fri Oct 25, 2013, 08:56 AM

Oct 2013

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-24668286

Angela Merkel: "Once the seeds of mistrust have been sown it doesn't facilitate our co-operation... it makes it more difficult"

EU leaders meeting in Brussels say distrust of the US over spying could harm the fight against terrorism.

A statement agreed by the leaders says that "a lack of trust could prejudice" intelligence-gathering co-operation.

France and Germany are pushing for talks with the US to find a new "understanding" by the year's end.

A number of allegations against US intelligence agents have surfaced this week, including the bugging of German Chancellor Angela Merkel's phone.

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