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I hate it that Limpbags uses words like "slut" and "prostitute" against women... (Original Post) MrScorpio Mar 2012 OP
Boy, you must really hate Bill Maher WhatintheWorld Mar 2012 #1
I'm quite sure that you hate Maher enough for the both of us MrScorpio Mar 2012 #3
What makes you think that I like Rush? WhatintheWorld Mar 2012 #9
It's called deflecting the point MrScorpio Mar 2012 #10
when we start using these descriptives with men that have sex, seabeyond Mar 2012 #2
I'm quite conscious of intent MrScorpio Mar 2012 #6
and it could be the women have not looked beyond actually seeing the desire for sex seabeyond Mar 2012 #8
Slut and prostitute in and of themselves aren't the problem... shcrane71 Mar 2012 #4
Bingo! MrScorpio Mar 2012 #7
I wish I could. After a couple of weeks of getting migraines when I hadn't had them shcrane71 Mar 2012 #11
I've had enough of bullies in my past MrScorpio Mar 2012 #12
Does it work? shcrane71 Mar 2012 #13
I'm a six foot tall, 200+ pound black guy MrScorpio Mar 2012 #14
lol... let's hang out! I'm an averaged-sized, middle-aged shcrane71 Mar 2012 #16
If you hang with me, no one will fuck with you MrScorpio Mar 2012 #17
Awesome. I hope you like margarhitas! shcrane71 Mar 2012 #18
Margarhitas, their name is happiness MrScorpio Mar 2012 #20
My late FIL was a vicious bully Ineeda Mar 2012 #15
Oh, you're so right. I've seen my sister do that to many a bully, and it's very effective. shcrane71 Mar 2012 #19
I agree and something rush (he doesn't deserve a capital) doesn't shraby Mar 2012 #5

MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
3. I'm quite sure that you hate Maher enough for the both of us
Tue Mar 6, 2012, 04:22 PM
Mar 2012

Which may make up for your lack of hatred of the Fat Bastard

 

WhatintheWorld

(17 posts)
9. What makes you think that I like Rush?
Tue Mar 6, 2012, 04:50 PM
Mar 2012

I"m just saying that Maher is at least as bad as Rush as far as his comments about women.

MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
10. It's called deflecting the point
Tue Mar 6, 2012, 04:54 PM
Mar 2012

Pretty much a tactic to take attention away from the original subject matter.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
2. when we start using these descriptives with men that have sex,
Tue Mar 6, 2012, 04:22 PM
Mar 2012

then i will buy into what you are saying.

the problem is, it is women having sex, no more or less than men having sex. nothing else to connect onto it.

MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
6. I'm quite conscious of intent
Tue Mar 6, 2012, 04:38 PM
Mar 2012

Because I know women who'd welcome such names as compliments in private, as the intent is not to shame and insult them, as does The Flaming Nazi Gasbag try to do. Needless to say, those women that I know are pleasantly unashamed of their own sexuality. They own the words as badges and refuse to be offended by them in the proper context.

I can tell you for a fact that they would instead view the way that Limbaugh uses them as an intended insult.

Yes, "slut" in itself is gender specific in a way to shame women singularly. That's the poor and unequal nature of our language.

But, the use of "insults" can be quite nuanced in any specific situation.

Context is everything.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
8. and it could be the women have not looked beyond actually seeing the desire for sex
Tue Mar 6, 2012, 04:43 PM
Mar 2012

no different from a man not needing to own the word to own her sexuality. i get what you are saying having been conditioned in a world where a woman is a "good girl"/"bad girl" or virgin/whore. i too embraced slut to not feel the shame. then said, fuck that.... i dont have to play any of the roles. it is sexual desire no different than mans. as long as i allow myself to be put in a position of not owning my sexuality, even though by "owning" the word it no longer hurts, the reality is, i am allowing y sexuality to be owned by others.

shcrane71

(1,721 posts)
4. Slut and prostitute in and of themselves aren't the problem...
Tue Mar 6, 2012, 04:28 PM
Mar 2012

the problem are sentences, taken in context, used to demean another person. We all know bullying when we see it, but it's hard to do something about it.

shcrane71

(1,721 posts)
11. I wish I could. After a couple of weeks of getting migraines when I hadn't had them
Tue Mar 6, 2012, 04:56 PM
Mar 2012

in years, I've been getting them again. I tried to think about any changes in diet, exercise, sleep, and that's all the same. Finally, I realized that there's a bully in a volunteer situation that I'm in. The person is an information hoarder, and uses scoffs, eye rolling, body language and demeaning language. I guess the migraines were my way of recognizing the behavior. Next, I must figure out how to deal with the behavior without it having a negative affect on my head.

MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
12. I've had enough of bullies in my past
Tue Mar 6, 2012, 05:00 PM
Mar 2012

Later on, I decided to stand up to them.

Usually it takes the form of me losing my temper, which ain't a pretty sight.

Ineeda

(3,626 posts)
15. My late FIL was a vicious bully
Tue Mar 6, 2012, 05:10 PM
Mar 2012

(may he rot in hell) but I learned that laughing at him, to his face, was very effective. He had no clue how to react. It seemed to take the joy out of the moment for him. Might be worth a try in your situation.

shcrane71

(1,721 posts)
19. Oh, you're so right. I've seen my sister do that to many a bully, and it's very effective.
Tue Mar 6, 2012, 05:32 PM
Mar 2012

I gotta remember to be quick with the laughter.

shraby

(21,946 posts)
5. I agree and something rush (he doesn't deserve a capital) doesn't
Tue Mar 6, 2012, 04:33 PM
Mar 2012

admit is it takes two to tango. For every woman who uses birth control no matter what age, that means she doesn't have a child she doesn't want at that time and the partner in the tango doesn't either. He just might have to support a child he didn't plan on having for at least 18 years...and she would have to raise it sans birth control.

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