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Anyone see this clip of Brand being interviewed in UK that's making the round on FB? Many of my daughter's young adult friends are impressed.
deutsey
(20,166 posts)Thanks for posting it.
warrior1
(12,325 posts)Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)cilla4progress
(24,736 posts)he speaks to me and apparently to others
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)I used to get mad also when my fan letters weren't answered... Damn that Maureen McMormick!!!
Dyedinthewoolliberal
(15,577 posts)He might be rich but lots of rich people aren't in the 1%
edited for spelling!
polichick
(37,152 posts)While I do vote (consider it an obligation), I agree that little will change without a "revolution" - which imo will involve a digital component designed by millennials.
ieoeja
(9,748 posts)... take control of the Republican Party or anything like that.
polichick
(37,152 posts)But even here at DU most people believe that an anti-establishment candidate doesn't have a chance.
DireStrike
(6,452 posts)Leftist outside groups are infiltrated by the FBI and broken up or misdirected.
And still, the Tea Party hasn't actually ACCOMPLISHED anything, other than wasting insignificant (in the big picture) amounts of money.
socialist_n_TN
(11,481 posts)the funders thought that they were needed to derail the momentum to end their neo-liberal ideology. And you're also right that they haven't actually accomplished anything other than bringing down the brand of the establishment Republicans too.
We need something that brings down the Dem neo-liberals now too. But it will have to be people based because there are no Kochs out there to fund something like that.
TeamPooka
(24,228 posts)about what he said.
If there was a summation and I was interested in the what he said I would then decide to watch the clip...or not.
I'll pass for now.
polichick
(37,152 posts)cilla4progress
(24,736 posts)including why he doesn't vote
TeamPooka
(24,228 posts)DireStrike
(6,452 posts)He's surprisingly articulate. Give it a minute. It's hard to summarize.
TeamPooka
(24,228 posts)hootinholler
(26,449 posts)Dreamer Tatum
(10,926 posts)Can't let those ad rates suffer.
Sheldon Cooper
(3,724 posts)http://www.theguardian.com/stage/theatreblog/2008/jul/16/russellbrand
If only Russell Brand could use his cleverness for more than humiliation:
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/jun/19/russell-brand-msnbc-morning-joe-humiliation
In assholic move, Russell Brand forces wardrobe girl to show him her tits:
http://jezebel.com/5931530/in-assholic-move-russell-brand-forces-wardrobe-girl-to-show-him-her-tits
He's a colossal asscarrot, and why anyone would give a flying shit about his opinion is beyond me.
GCP
(8,166 posts)But I'm willing to give him a chance because he does seem to have changed lately. I could be wrong and he could be just doing schtick, but I'll wait and watch.
Courtesy Flush
(4,558 posts)Voting sure as hell worked for the Tea Party.
Sure, start a revolution if you want, but if you can't be bothered to take a little time out of your day to cast a ballot, then we should all give up.
cilla4progress
(24,736 posts)don't follow blindly.
What I thought was most interesting is the reaction of the young people I know, watching this.
FSogol
(45,488 posts)socialist_n_TN
(11,481 posts)I'm glad Lenin and Trotsky didn't have that attitude. Revolutionists most of the time have given up on the idea that voting in the dictatorship of capital makes any difference in the real lives of real people.
Brand was encapsulating what a LOT of people think. Basically that there are NO candidates or parties out there that represent the working class and poor. Which is why 50% of people who are eligible to vote don't even bother to get registered.
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ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)DefenseLawyer
(11,101 posts)If a guy in line at the supermarket starts talking to me, I'll probably be annoyed and think "why should I care?"; but if he makes sense I'll still listen to what he has to say.
ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)is what I'm saying.
socialist_n_TN
(11,481 posts)the guy in the checkout line? I'm with the poster who said that if they make sense, I'll listen and discuss. Celebrity has nothing to do with it. Except for the VERY important point that celebrity does allow for a platform for opinions to be disseminated. As to the opinion themselves, I (and you) can take them or leave them, agree or disagree. Since I'm a revolutionary socialist, I happen to agree with this celebrity. Steven Baldwin, I don't agree with so much.
ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)There's your answer.
DefenseLawyer
(11,101 posts)but the details of her love life, yet you claim to have no idea who Russell Brand could be. Yeah, okay. But it really doesn't matter who he is. Attack the substance of what he said. "I never heard of him" is not an argument. I didn't know who Howard Zinn was the first time I read his book. But I read it anyway and it certainly struck a tone with me. I suppose I should have cast it aside because I didn't know who he was.
DefenseLawyer
(11,101 posts)That's a distraction. A point of view that can be argued; an argument about "process". The important thing is that he's addressing the true problem: Capitalism. The ultra rich own the world and are fucking over the planet and everyone else who lives on it, and the system ultimately serves only them.
bobduca
(1,763 posts)ZOMG HE DOESNT VOTE?!?!?
cilla4progress
(24,736 posts)and I LOVE to hear from my 20 yr. old daughter and her friends that he is gaining some resonance with them.
Socialism is SUCH a dirty word here because of our ignorance and the brainwashing that goes on. (By "here" I mean U.S.,not DU. )
If someone, anyone, can start breaking through, there may be hope.
These young folks and their open minds give me hope!
*No one "system" is perfect, but an antidote to capitalism is terribly needed at this time.
DireStrike
(6,452 posts)Depending on what you mean by socialism. If you say "socialism" and people think you mean social democracy, you're ok. But if you really criticize capitalism, you're gonna get attacked.
WCGreen
(45,558 posts)But I clearly get what he is saying.
cilla4progress
(24,736 posts)there is space for this discussion.
Warpy
(111,267 posts)by the plutocracy. He loses that point when he doesn't realize the vast difference in social policies that affect us all at the individual level.
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)cilla4progress
(24,736 posts)but you're here...
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)Dash87
(3,220 posts)Coyotl
(15,262 posts)People don't vote in N. Korea. Maybe he would enjoy living there???
Silent3
(15,219 posts)...but only vaguely calls for (or merely is waiting for) some unspecified kind of "revolution" to come along and magically make things somehow better, unable to articulate any solutions, all mixed in with telling people not to bother voting.
I suppose I can see the appeal if you're looking around for someone with a high profile getting angry at the things that make you angry, but this strikes me as little more than naive ranting by someone who strikes me as overly impressed with himself for merely spotting and bitching about problems that many other people can see just as well, if not better, than he can.