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Russell Brand's call for revolution (Original Post) cilla4progress Oct 2013 OP
Bookmarking to watch later deutsey Oct 2013 #1
who warrior1 Oct 2013 #2
A 1%er who wants to lead us peons to liberty when he's not sunning himself at his McMansion. Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2013 #3
sounds like he came up from the streets cilla4progress Oct 2013 #4
RB is hardly in the 1%, though he is rich. He is also brilliant, extremely well-read, and wise. WinkyDink Oct 2013 #6
I used to get mad also when my fan letters weren't answered... LanternWaste Oct 2013 #16
I doubt he's a one percenter Dyedinthewoolliberal Oct 2013 #19
Amen! k&r polichick Oct 2013 #5
Yeah. It's not like the Teabaggers managed to kick out a bunch of establishment candidates and ... ieoeja Oct 2013 #20
We should be so lucky as to vote out our corporate whores... polichick Oct 2013 #21
The tea party had massive funding and organizational assistance. DireStrike Oct 2013 #31
Yep. Exactly right DS. The Tea Party was fully funded because, AT THE TIME.......... socialist_n_TN Oct 2013 #37
no summation of what he said anywhere? I have to watch a 10 minute video to know anything TeamPooka Oct 2013 #7
Here's a bit of his view (not from this vid)... polichick Oct 2013 #9
"Calls for revolution" cilla4progress Oct 2013 #10
thats a headline, not a summation. TeamPooka Oct 2013 #12
I thought the same thing, but 10 minutes flew by when I watched it. DireStrike Oct 2013 #32
i'm at work so that's not always possible. TeamPooka Oct 2013 #35
Kick to find later n/t hootinholler Oct 2013 #8
Just be back in time watch his TV show Dreamer Tatum Oct 2013 #11
Russell Brand is a fucking asshole. Wanna know why? Sheldon Cooper Oct 2013 #13
I used to feel the same way GCP Oct 2013 #14
DO NOT listen to people who discourage voting! Courtesy Flush Oct 2013 #15
Filter... cilla4progress Oct 2013 #17
^^^^ THIS ^^^^ N/T FSogol Oct 2013 #18
So if you don't vote you're "giving up"?...... socialist_n_TN Oct 2013 #39
This message was self-deleted by its author Courtesy Flush Oct 2013 #40
The only thing I know about Russell Brand is that he was married to Kate Perry. Why should we care? ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #22
I don't think anyone suggests that you must. DefenseLawyer Oct 2013 #25
I tend not to hold celebrities and their opinions above that guy in the checkout line... ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #26
So does that mean you hold celebrities and their opinions BELOW....... socialist_n_TN Oct 2013 #41
They are just people. I don't know who Russell Brand is, outside of Ms Perry's ex. ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #42
You are in tune enough with popular culture to not only know Katy Perry DefenseLawyer Oct 2013 #43
People shouldn't get hung up on the "vote or don't vote" angle DefenseLawyer Oct 2013 #23
Its like Jeremy Paxman made a bunch of accounts on DU bobduca Oct 2013 #24
Thanks... cilla4progress Oct 2013 #27
It's a mildly dirty word on DU as well DireStrike Oct 2013 #33
yea, I'm a never miss an election kind of guy... WCGreen Oct 2013 #28
Me too... cilla4progress Oct 2013 #29
Yes, he's got a point in that we're handed candidates Warpy Oct 2013 #30
I should give a shit about the opinion of some guy who acts like he's wasted most of the time? n/t winter is coming Oct 2013 #34
you don't have to.. cilla4progress Oct 2013 #36
Dead. On. Le Taz Hot Oct 2013 #38
Annoying, untalented, and misogynist hack. His opinion is worth less than dog excrement. Dash87 Oct 2013 #44
Can anyone think of a good country for him, one w/o elections. Maybe N. Korea? Coyotl Oct 2013 #45
Not impressed. This guy is angry about a lot of things people should be angry about... Silent3 Oct 2013 #46
 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
16. I used to get mad also when my fan letters weren't answered...
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 02:41 PM
Oct 2013

I used to get mad also when my fan letters weren't answered... Damn that Maureen McMormick!!!

polichick

(37,152 posts)
5. Amen! k&r
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 12:37 PM
Oct 2013

While I do vote (consider it an obligation), I agree that little will change without a "revolution" - which imo will involve a digital component designed by millennials.

 

ieoeja

(9,748 posts)
20. Yeah. It's not like the Teabaggers managed to kick out a bunch of establishment candidates and ...
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 03:22 PM
Oct 2013

... take control of the Republican Party or anything like that.

polichick

(37,152 posts)
21. We should be so lucky as to vote out our corporate whores...
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 03:29 PM
Oct 2013

But even here at DU most people believe that an anti-establishment candidate doesn't have a chance.

DireStrike

(6,452 posts)
31. The tea party had massive funding and organizational assistance.
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 05:06 PM
Oct 2013

Leftist outside groups are infiltrated by the FBI and broken up or misdirected.

And still, the Tea Party hasn't actually ACCOMPLISHED anything, other than wasting insignificant (in the big picture) amounts of money.

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)
37. Yep. Exactly right DS. The Tea Party was fully funded because, AT THE TIME..........
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 06:51 PM
Oct 2013

the funders thought that they were needed to derail the momentum to end their neo-liberal ideology. And you're also right that they haven't actually accomplished anything other than bringing down the brand of the establishment Republicans too.

We need something that brings down the Dem neo-liberals now too. But it will have to be people based because there are no Kochs out there to fund something like that.

TeamPooka

(24,228 posts)
7. no summation of what he said anywhere? I have to watch a 10 minute video to know anything
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 01:43 PM
Oct 2013

about what he said.
If there was a summation and I was interested in the what he said I would then decide to watch the clip...or not.
I'll pass for now.

DireStrike

(6,452 posts)
32. I thought the same thing, but 10 minutes flew by when I watched it.
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 05:09 PM
Oct 2013

He's surprisingly articulate. Give it a minute. It's hard to summarize.

Sheldon Cooper

(3,724 posts)
13. Russell Brand is a fucking asshole. Wanna know why?
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 02:17 PM
Oct 2013
Russell Brand prank calls a rape crisis center:
http://www.theguardian.com/stage/theatreblog/2008/jul/16/russellbrand

If only Russell Brand could use his cleverness for more than humiliation:
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/jun/19/russell-brand-msnbc-morning-joe-humiliation

In assholic move, Russell Brand forces wardrobe girl to show him her tits:
http://jezebel.com/5931530/in-assholic-move-russell-brand-forces-wardrobe-girl-to-show-him-her-tits


He's a colossal asscarrot, and why anyone would give a flying shit about his opinion is beyond me.

GCP

(8,166 posts)
14. I used to feel the same way
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 02:33 PM
Oct 2013

But I'm willing to give him a chance because he does seem to have changed lately. I could be wrong and he could be just doing schtick, but I'll wait and watch.

Courtesy Flush

(4,558 posts)
15. DO NOT listen to people who discourage voting!
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 02:40 PM
Oct 2013

Voting sure as hell worked for the Tea Party.

Sure, start a revolution if you want, but if you can't be bothered to take a little time out of your day to cast a ballot, then we should all give up.

cilla4progress

(24,736 posts)
17. Filter...
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 02:45 PM
Oct 2013

don't follow blindly.

What I thought was most interesting is the reaction of the young people I know, watching this.

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)
39. So if you don't vote you're "giving up"?......
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 06:55 PM
Oct 2013

I'm glad Lenin and Trotsky didn't have that attitude. Revolutionists most of the time have given up on the idea that voting in the dictatorship of capital makes any difference in the real lives of real people.

Brand was encapsulating what a LOT of people think. Basically that there are NO candidates or parties out there that represent the working class and poor. Which is why 50% of people who are eligible to vote don't even bother to get registered.

Response to socialist_n_TN (Reply #39)

 

DefenseLawyer

(11,101 posts)
25. I don't think anyone suggests that you must.
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 03:42 PM
Oct 2013

If a guy in line at the supermarket starts talking to me, I'll probably be annoyed and think "why should I care?"; but if he makes sense I'll still listen to what he has to say.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
26. I tend not to hold celebrities and their opinions above that guy in the checkout line...
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 03:50 PM
Oct 2013

is what I'm saying.

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)
41. So does that mean you hold celebrities and their opinions BELOW.......
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 07:42 PM
Oct 2013

the guy in the checkout line? I'm with the poster who said that if they make sense, I'll listen and discuss. Celebrity has nothing to do with it. Except for the VERY important point that celebrity does allow for a platform for opinions to be disseminated. As to the opinion themselves, I (and you) can take them or leave them, agree or disagree. Since I'm a revolutionary socialist, I happen to agree with this celebrity. Steven Baldwin, I don't agree with so much.

 

DefenseLawyer

(11,101 posts)
43. You are in tune enough with popular culture to not only know Katy Perry
Sat Oct 26, 2013, 08:39 AM
Oct 2013

but the details of her love life, yet you claim to have no idea who Russell Brand could be. Yeah, okay. But it really doesn't matter who he is. Attack the substance of what he said. "I never heard of him" is not an argument. I didn't know who Howard Zinn was the first time I read his book. But I read it anyway and it certainly struck a tone with me. I suppose I should have cast it aside because I didn't know who he was.

 

DefenseLawyer

(11,101 posts)
23. People shouldn't get hung up on the "vote or don't vote" angle
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 03:38 PM
Oct 2013

That's a distraction. A point of view that can be argued; an argument about "process". The important thing is that he's addressing the true problem: Capitalism. The ultra rich own the world and are fucking over the planet and everyone else who lives on it, and the system ultimately serves only them.

cilla4progress

(24,736 posts)
27. Thanks...
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 03:51 PM
Oct 2013

and I LOVE to hear from my 20 yr. old daughter and her friends that he is gaining some resonance with them.

Socialism is SUCH a dirty word here because of our ignorance and the brainwashing that goes on. (By "here" I mean U.S.,not DU. )

If someone, anyone, can start breaking through, there may be hope.

These young folks and their open minds give me hope!



*No one "system" is perfect, but an antidote to capitalism is terribly needed at this time.

DireStrike

(6,452 posts)
33. It's a mildly dirty word on DU as well
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 05:11 PM
Oct 2013

Depending on what you mean by socialism. If you say "socialism" and people think you mean social democracy, you're ok. But if you really criticize capitalism, you're gonna get attacked.

Warpy

(111,267 posts)
30. Yes, he's got a point in that we're handed candidates
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 05:03 PM
Oct 2013

by the plutocracy. He loses that point when he doesn't realize the vast difference in social policies that affect us all at the individual level.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
45. Can anyone think of a good country for him, one w/o elections. Maybe N. Korea?
Sat Oct 26, 2013, 09:05 AM
Oct 2013

People don't vote in N. Korea. Maybe he would enjoy living there???

Silent3

(15,219 posts)
46. Not impressed. This guy is angry about a lot of things people should be angry about...
Sat Oct 26, 2013, 09:23 AM
Oct 2013

...but only vaguely calls for (or merely is waiting for) some unspecified kind of "revolution" to come along and magically make things somehow better, unable to articulate any solutions, all mixed in with telling people not to bother voting.

I suppose I can see the appeal if you're looking around for someone with a high profile getting angry at the things that make you angry, but this strikes me as little more than naive ranting by someone who strikes me as overly impressed with himself for merely spotting and bitching about problems that many other people can see just as well, if not better, than he can.

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