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Representative Alan Grayson of Florida is dangerous because he's a rich-ass liberal who doesn't give a shit. That's damned invigorating because, frankly, the Left needs more people who don't give a shit, who have given up on the niceties and the demure decorum by which Democrats, especially, are supposed to act in Washington while Republicans and conservatives can take a photo of President Obama and fuck its face in public while calling Nancy Pelosi a cunt.
Members of the media, conservatives, and some Democrats are currently fanning themselves on the fainting couch over Grayson's fundraising email that explicitly compares the Tea Party to the Ku Klux Klan.
Yeah, the only way it could be more explicit is if Grayson showed a Tea Party gathering with a lynched President Obama hanging in the foreground.
Of course, it's rude shit, right there. It's bomb throwing. It's a clear and obvious attack, absolutely resolute in its opinion, completely without nuance, way over the top, and totally necessary.
Why "necessary"? Because it's now forced Tea Party members to jump out and demonstrate that they aren't racist (even if, you know, they are). Sal Russon, the chief strategist of the Tea Party Express (which is a title that sounds like "Toilet Licker at the Nuthouse" wrote in The Daily Caller (motto: "It's either this or more Tucker Carlson on your TV and nobody wants that" , "For the Democrats, vicious anti-Tea Party hate speech has become regular and no one seems to hold them accountable, certainly not the compliant major media. This loss of civility is no way to conduct a national conversation." The Rude Pundit's pretty sure that Russo believes Tea Party rallies involve actual doilies and tea pots and not people calling the President a socialist foreigner who worships Allah. And a nigger.
The other beautiful thing about Grayson's comparison is that any time racism does crop up in Tea Party events or Facebook pages or comment threads, it simply proves his point. That's some Karl-Rove-in-his-prime shit right there, and Democrats need that to stomp the GOP into the ground while they're down.
Grayson has made degrading and destroying the Tea Party, if not the entire Republican Party, his mission. They fucked him over before, and now he's telling them they can just blow him. As for the media or anyone who would try to get him to apologize or shut up? Well, there's enough knee pads and lip balm to go around.
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russspeakeasy
(6,539 posts)Scuba
(53,475 posts)Rebellious Republican
(5,029 posts)The Magistrate
(95,247 posts)NBachers
(17,117 posts)otohara
(24,135 posts)thing to do on the internet.
Yay... Alan Grayson - what a guy!
polichick
(37,152 posts)Exactly the kind of Dem that keeps the status quo safe.
otohara
(24,135 posts)was so fucking mild - Liberals go nuts and call her names, throw her under the bus.
Was that his goal?
polichick
(37,152 posts)otohara
(24,135 posts)he brought her into this mess. She and others have better things to do than to respond to
the latest crazy-talk from Alan Grayson. He has better things to do too. Instead he's posting on Facebook,
DU and other sites. He will be the Ted Cruz of the Dems - his colleagues will walk out of the
chamber when he speaks.
polichick
(37,152 posts)otohara
(24,135 posts)then she'd be used in a commercial - fuck that!
He must hate her.
polichick
(37,152 posts)a new rep - someone who's not a chickenshit.
otohara
(24,135 posts)tea-party talk on DU - how nice!
polichick
(37,152 posts)Don't like it? Tough shit.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)to mollify and smooth ruffled rethug feathers. Grayson speaks the truth, she Feinsteins things. She get's the negative remarks she deserves. What about all the Obama bashing, she's been pretty quiet about that!
marble falls
(57,099 posts)otohara
(24,135 posts)with the KKK aka Tea Party
Do you think that's over the top?
On the internet one not need be a member of the Tea Party to spread the hate and hateful comments. But all this name calling is reminiscent of the posters on the right. Disagreement with the majority around here is met with name calling and suggestions of being a paid troll.
"And the point Im making to you, Martin, is that if you dont speak out against it then in effect youre collaborating with it. And in fact, if you give somebody like me a hard time for speaking out against it, then maybe youre collaborating with it,"
That quote makes Grayson now sound like McCarthy. WOW!
Under the bus for you Martin Bashir.
Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)You know, the ones she supports over actual Democrats.
If she starts acting like a Democrat, maybe people wouldn't gang up on her.
otohara
(24,135 posts)for our little bomb thrower in Florida.
Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)DLC Debbie is there for one reason, to pave the way for DLC Hillary to screw us over.
otohara
(24,135 posts)are we going to keep the DLC alive forever and ever - is it our Acorn?
How will Hill screw us over? I'm dying to know the future
Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)The party is finally moving left...Hillary would stop that if she could.
Good thing they're all getting older and irrelevant to the future of the Democratic Party.
Jester Messiah
(4,711 posts)GOP's over there. How 'bout pointing your weapons towards them and not each other?
sulphurdunn
(6,891 posts)When enough people make the connection to the former DLC, it'll change again.
sulphurdunn
(6,891 posts)to have a serious social reform movement in a democracy without a militant wing willing verbally attack the opposition. Words have power.
eridani
(51,907 posts)--over Democrats. Go check otu DU2 if you don't believe me.
Response to otohara (Reply #27)
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otohara
(24,135 posts)If I were afraid I would have jumped out of this thread - I mean who likes to be attacked for not licking the boots of the bomb thrower in Florida.
carla
(553 posts)to spout useless opinions or are you trolling? I can't tell anymore, as Grayson's statements are T.R.U.E. and your outrage sounds like some type of milquetoast apologia. Alan Grayson is the consequence of so many years of bashful and compliant Dems licking the boots of the GOP , which is full of racists, misogynists and anti-social/anti-democratic loonies. otohara needs to rethink this response to Grayson's honesty and calling things as he sees them. YEA Alan Grayson, booo otohara and the rest, especially that dishrag Wasserman-Schultz. If anybody is the Ted Cruz of the Democratic Party it is Wasserman-Schultz; useless, and false.
otohara
(24,135 posts)I'd get paid for posting - but no, I'm disabled and can't work no more.
I'm sorry you all feel the need to insult and imply troll because I refuse to "lick the boots of Alan Grayson
heaven05
(18,124 posts)your type of truth is not appreciated by some here. You go Carla!
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)heaven05
(18,124 posts)are NOT WITHOUT MERIT. Go handwring at Grayson's remarks to and about rethug/tea party racism and bigotry to someone else, it'll make you feel even better.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)that is without merit.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)I've accused people of trolling(that michigan blogger for one and got pounced upon by people on here. He was banned from this site as a rethug troll, later. Please don't insult me by using fake intellectualism when you're just plain wrong. Go Carla, just don't use personal attack words. Frowned upon here. I get sick and tired too, just hang in there, the 'real' fighter for progressives will win yet. Go Grayson!
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)There are two things you need to understand.
1. Going ad-hominem, i.e. attacking the poster instead of their ideas and arguments means you have lost and cannot refute their points.
2. You are eventually going to get more and more posts hidden if you continue and per the new rules instituted by Skinner, you will lose the ability to post. You may even get thrown off the website altogether.
I know you can't respond and that's fine, there is nothing for you to say.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)all over the racist and bigoted remarks of the tea party/kkk and their rethug lackeys? Someone gets pissed off because some of us get sick and tired of semi-dems licking rethug boots and all the sudden they're persona non grata. I really get amazed at this site and how it's 'leaders' treat real liberals and progressives who say harsh things about GOP bootlickers(third wayers as it were).
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)heaven05
(18,124 posts)but what can I expect
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)heaven05
(18,124 posts)I've heard it all my life as directed toward blacks or any 'others' not white. You've probably even used at some time in your life. You people in my response means all semi-dems with a hidden third way agenda. Wasserman is a licker of rethug boots and I would tell her to her Neville Chamberlain(thanks Carla) face. Not meant in any way to offend any racial "minority".
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)heaven05
(18,124 posts)is right on. If wasserman should not be attacked as a licker of rethug boot then she should not have opened herself up to attack. She deserves every negative comment on here. 6 years of Democratic WEAKNESS can get to anyone. She is perpetuating that weakness The OP is right, Carla's comment was right on and this is getting boring. good bye.
mimi85
(1,805 posts)but I've said before I agree - she's worked diligently for the party. It's easy to be a bomb thrower. Some 14 year old boys (and girls) are excellent at it as well. I would like to hear what bills he's introduced or legislation he's endorsed. And what he's done for his constituents. Is this why they voted for him? Calling names is really friggin' childish.
eilen
(4,950 posts)In making waves, he gets attention. The media will report on it and it's consumers will get another point of view; kind of like--the emperor has no clothes. Telling Grayson to shut up is really not serving Democrats, the country but maybe serving Wasserman's political future in FL.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)heaven05
(18,124 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)oh yeah, $$$$$.
otohara
(24,135 posts)puleeeze
carla
(553 posts)Yours? Obfuscation, perhaps? Welcome to my ignore list, otohara.
yurbud
(39,405 posts)polichick
(37,152 posts)Besides, it's too important an issue to play games.
yurbud
(39,405 posts)otohara
(24,135 posts)in 2010 or did he manage that all by himself?
That election wasn't even close - With 100 percent of precincts reporting, Republican Daniel Webster had 56 percent of the vote to Grayson's 38 percent in their central Florida district around Orlando. Webster is one of Florida's most experienced Republican politicians, with 28 years in the Florida Legislature where he served as House speaker and Senate majority leader.
In 2012 Grayson won by 62% - and that might be because the district was redrawn and he didn't have to run against popular Webster again.
What are you talking about?
noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)with her absurd and dishonest false equivalency bullshit.
otohara
(24,135 posts)and every Democrat if asked by the media would have said the same thing. She's the person they go to for a quote and she's the first to be trashed. She didn't ask for this - now she's the bitch.
Except for FOX, the media is ignoring Grayson like the plague.
frylock
(34,825 posts)polichick
(37,152 posts)or perhaps just afraid of the truth even when someone else speaks it.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Can't argue with it. It is certainly very valid.
At the same time, maybe, just maybe, Grayson going so 'over the top,' (telling the truth actually), will give some other dems the balls - male and female balls, if I may say so :> - to at LEAST get out of the clothes hamper and tell the truth, even if not quite so 'elegantly.'
Let them be 'dignified.' I don't care. Just speak up!
heaven05
(18,124 posts)has been ignoring the Democratic position since Obama was elected, THE FIRST TIME. Yeah go to a 'Feinsteiner' for a 'progressive' quote on a colleagues truth telling.
because it takes up so much media time ON THE RIGHT and internet divisiveness. I don't think giving the wingunts ammunition is productive. It's a waste of time and brings the big bucks into their kooky caucus.
frylock
(34,825 posts)Rep. Grayson is a breath of fresh air. you fight fire with fire, not with some imaginary high road. people respect those who stand up for themselves.
otohara
(24,135 posts)for doing shit like this and will again.
I have a very effective Representative - Diana DeGette - she gets things done and doesn't
wallow in mud gain attention or to raise money.
frylock
(34,825 posts)politics is a gentleman's game. best to allow these people to continue to punch dems and liberals in the gut, and keep traveling that high road. at least we have that smug sense of self satisfaction going for us, eh.
Capt. Obvious
(9,002 posts)She has her job to do, just like Alan does. They are symbiotic organisms.
Logical
(22,457 posts)RainDog
(28,784 posts)within the party and within the larger liberal cause - which includes the defeat of conservatives.
Grayson has made a niche for himself as the person who says the things that are not said in "polite" political society. Because he has taken on this populist tone, he will likely not be a person who would run for national office - unless he toned down the rhetoric.
Maybe Wasserman-Schultz has higher aspirations and feels the need to show her ability to reach across the aisle.
A lot of times, when I hear the things Obama has to say, too, for instance, I don't take things at face value. For instance, the comment about blogs, etc. and the remarks about false equivalence between left and right. I just assume he has to include one with the other to avoid the accusation that he is not willing to deal with his political opponents in a way that refuses to give them easy ammo.
So, Grayson, or Debbie - they're all providing a voice for people who want to hear their words.
Sometimes Grayson can be abrasive to the point of... yikes... but he is also in the position to start a national conversation on national television about the claims he is making.
Something good about that.. consciousness-raising, even, regarding how a group is perceived by many not within their bubble.
otohara
(24,135 posts)isn't being held on CNN, MSNBC, NPR. Where it is being discussed is on FOX, Limbaugh, Beck etal... and of course it's over the top and is more red meat for their misinformed viewers. MSNBC is ignoring Grayson like the plague since he did this.
DU needs to throw Steve Israel under the bus, and Rep. Joe Crowley, Gerry Connelly too, because they too are not happy with the Congressman from FL. Call them chickenshits and dishrags - not just the female leader of The DNC.
cheapdate
(3,811 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)Republican and never misses a chance to admonish a Progressive Democrat.
SHE made the situation. Airc, Grayson said nothing about her at all.
Next time maybe she should some respect for members of her own party and trust that they are grown ups and know exactly what they are doing
It is because of people like Wasserman in leadership positions in this party that we got to the point we are at with the Republicans KNOWING they can get away with their abuse of power.
Grayson has it RIGHT. She needs to take a few lessons from HIM rather than lecturing HIM instead of joining him in his rightful condemnation of these extremists.
idwiyo
(5,113 posts)Go Alan!
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)That cat looks - and acts - just like my Casper.
Rag-doll Persians are both beautiful and prone to NOT put up with much crap.
otohara
(24,135 posts)from another DU'er - my Kiko does the same thing.
zeemike
(18,998 posts)You got to love the rude one...he has such a way with words.
polichick
(37,152 posts)bullwinkle428
(20,629 posts)K&R.
dinger130
(199 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,760 posts)Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)K&R
AAO
(3,300 posts)and are willing to work the rest of their lives for the little people. There must be a lot of them out there. If not, give me 5 million and I will fight every day for anyone but the 1%.
WorseBeforeBetter
(11,441 posts)YES. DWS Democrats, DO NOT bring them back to life!
Love Rude. Pierce. Morford.
Thanks for posting!
GatorOrange
(63 posts)Especially for us in Central Florida that need someone willing to fumigate the Bagger cockroach infestation here without remorse. Grayson gives all of us hope when he does this kind of thing.
TiredoftheGOP
(1 post)I absolutely love this man!!! Wish more Democrats had his backbone!!!
gopiscrap
(23,761 posts)gopiscrap
(23,761 posts)meegbear
(25,438 posts)msongs
(67,413 posts)TheKentuckian
(25,026 posts)That is the complicit, appeasement wing, to you, bub.
haikugal
(6,476 posts)Kudos!!! Thanks for posting this.
gopiscrap
(23,761 posts)Aldo Leopold
(685 posts)and you DEFINITELY can't get Rude enough!
Love it!
AzDar
(14,023 posts)Hubert Flottz
(37,726 posts)Now there's a job that an unemployed republickin' might be able to handle. Not much good for anything else.
Liberalynn
(7,549 posts)JackHughes
(166 posts)This is NOT a "monkey court"!
NealK
(1,869 posts)arthritisR_US
(7,288 posts)oswaldactedalone
(3,491 posts)Rep. Grayson. Keep pouring it on and calling out these racists anywhere, anytime.
world wide wally
(21,744 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)the Democrats can stomp the GOP into the ground by making their position clear on social security and medicare. Making sure the people understand that we favor slashing the military to the bone before one dime is cut from social security and medicare.
Autumn
(45,100 posts)Yes indeed, conservatives and others can blow him.
MsPithy
(809 posts)waved a confederate flag in front of the White House?
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
B Calm
(28,762 posts)ReRe
(10,597 posts)Thanks meegbear for this truth from the rudepundit!
I am absolutely furious with conservative Democrats who are calling Alan Grayson out. Look no further, folks. ANYONE who stands up against the "truth-in-front-of-your-face-for-the-last-four-years," is the trouble in the Democratic Party, period.
All Democrats everywhere. Stand up and PROVE who you are. From this point on, call a spade a spade. When you see and hear evil hate politics and hate speech, call it out!
yurbud
(39,405 posts)underpants
(182,826 posts)marking for a read with my coffee in the morning
pangaia
(24,324 posts)"For the Democrats, vicious anti-Tea Party hate speech has become regular and no one seems to hold them accountable, certainly not the compliant major media. This loss of civility is no way to conduct a national conversation."
HUH? regular? Who? Chuckie Cheese Schumer, Dickie the Durbin,
name one,, Debbie the Wasserman-Shultz ? Name one. ANYONE.
Go Alan
malaise
(269,026 posts)Freaking perfect!!!
kentuck
(111,098 posts)When opposing the racist Tea Party?
Zorra
(27,670 posts)Madmiddle
(459 posts)against their own best interest, only understand being called names. Their debate skills usually involves siting something about the 2nd amendment or how Obama is a Kenyan. So comparing them to the KKK is all the understand. There's no reasoning with fools!
DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)[center]FROM THIS:
TO THIS:
AND NOW THIS?:
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''I believe that it is better to tell the truth than a lie. I believe it is better to be free than to be a slave. And I believe it is better to know than to be ignorant.'' ~H. L. Mencken
JimboBillyBubbaBob
(1,389 posts)Cruz is the Imperial Wizard and Lee and Paul are Grand Dragons. What's the issue with acknowledging their positions?
anniebelle
(899 posts)between the KKK and the Teabillies is the Klan still wear their hoods.
Brigid
(17,621 posts)And Alan Grayson.
Gary 50
(381 posts)The Republicans have hundreds if not thousands of bomb throwers. The Democrats have one. In an ideal world there would be none but no one would could believe ours is an ideal world. So Grayson throws bombs back at the evil ones and I, for one, thank him for it.
madokie
(51,076 posts)for telling it like it is, no punches pulled, nor intended to be
bread_and_roses
(6,335 posts)The post below the one cited is even more trenchant.
That anyone around here thinks calling DWS names is important when we are blowing people - including children - to bits randomly in our insane "war on terror" - continued, doncha know, under a D president - strikes me as a near psychopathic inversion of priorities.
Lint Head
(15,064 posts)sarcastically cutting when it is called for. And at times it IS called for.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)Keep up the great work of exposing our weakness and hypocrisy in the face of rethug /tea party intimidation. .
watoos
(7,142 posts)I Just Want to Hear Him Deny It
There is a story in politics, commonly attributed to Lyndon B. Johnson, about how LBJ wanted to circulate a rumor attacking his opponent in a Texas election. Johnson, it's said, wanted to spread the story that his opponent liked to have sex with barnyard animals. One of LBJ's aides said, "We can't prove he's a pig f----r."
"I know that," replied Johnson. "I just want to hear him deny it."
Difference with Grayson is that his claim, for the most part, is true.
Go, Alan, Go! He has my support.