....They have to swallow what we want and fund it.

Shoot that motherfucker down with extreme prejudice.

Wanker is right.

this would probably be more likely for Republicans to accept than the entitlement 'reform' for tax increases
deals mentioned previously.

has 'borrowed' from SS FIRST before talking about anything to do with SS!?

They simply don't want to repay the money.

so they (wall street) can destroy even more retirement plans and become trillionares! Washington D.C. MUST stop Wall Street from dictating policy!

Who says?

Fuck the Repukes! If we do have to make concessions just to get through this year, let's make sure that none of them take effect until after 2014. Then, when we retake the House, we can simply repeal them.

Better if we can turn the vandals away at the door, though.

we won't have to worry about taking the house in 2014 because it won't happen.

He's always been a turd way diehard.

because it hasn't happened yet.

Where is Gene from again? Oh yeah the White House’s National Economic Council

they should be along anytime now...

He probably just doesn't realize what they're up to.

Someone who would advise him to raise the cap would be good.

But I can still hope that the President listens to voices that are less right wing and to the voices of the people who depend on Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, EBT, and other social programs.

He will be known as the Dem President that cut Social Security and Medicare.
I just read that white seniors are turning on the repubs
A good way win their votes is to stand against these cuts

They get stupid enough to push for this it will be a tsunami of anger.

And "we" are certainly washed up with me. I will never cast a vote for another Democrat. My line in the sand. This includes any fancy sounding "Superlative CPI".

When the president made the offer to cut Social Security, it gave Republicans the opening to say, "Even an extreme Marxist socialist librul like Obama agrees that we must reform entitlements."

This is true even if, as many here assure us, the president was just making a masterful bluff because he knew the Republicans would never accept a tax increase.

Cutting Social Security should never, ever have been discussed, even as past of a googledimensional chess gambit.

There used to be a sense of right and wrong. It appears to have fallen by the wayside somewhere along the line.

get ready to see that here at DU.

And it *ain't* just libruls who will be angry.

Don't let the door hit you in the ass, Sperling.

Gene Sperling to depart Obama economic team
http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2013-09-13/business/42038081_1_president-obama-jeff-zients-gene-sperling

Chained CPI themselves.

If it wasn't for Bush tax cuts and the pentagon, then deficit would already be paid off. No need to cut entitlements.

Cut where the source problem is the 1% entitlements and their pet the MIC

Anybody who talks like that should be fired.

entitlement cuts seem accepted and inevitable, and hoping liberals will just blow off steam and get used to the idea.

And if you're correct about his thinking, he's got another think coming.

The same think-tank and lobbyist populated world that gave us the Iraq war and too big to fail now thinks we must have entitlement cuts. What could possibly go wrong?

The fact Harry Reid is out there saying "no" gives me at least some optimism. Party foundations like Social Security can stand against the revolving door crowd if enough opposition develops.

the political winds changing.

Oh, wait, that's Sy Sperling.

I hope they'd fire his ass for uttering those words.

Dear Mr. Sperling, I've got something you can swallow.



-p

nt

... with a cactus.

Keep talking and I actually will show you my LIBERAL anger.

Mr President, FIRE this asshole, right now.

what Obama tells him to say. Or, he'd be fired.

HELL, NO!!!

You can't cut entitlements in the name of stimulus.

The stimulus funds will go to buy bridges made in China.

Change our overseas investment policy to discourage taking investment money out of the country and put higher taxes on imports.

Don't make seniors pay for the Bush wars and cuts for the rich.

No way. And Obama is fool to be putting this out there when the Republicans refuse to say publicly what they are apparently asking for in private.

Look for more cuts to other programs that struggling Americans need.

Other programs are not entitlements because the recipients didn't necessarily pay for them.

"Entitlements" stimulate the economy. They put money back into the economy. It's money spent, not hoarded.

Time to put the republican wing of the Democratic Party to sleep. Every time we try to give the repukes their last rites, these assholes come along and breath new life into them.

Good luck with that. Boomers will be furious.

It's been his SCHTICK since Obama made him his top economic adviser. The question is WHY Obama chooses fuckers like this.

make them remember to fear the third rail of politics!

(can't reach Gene directly as he's on the Economic council. but we can make him persona non grata by threatening primaries on congressional people to agitate for his resignation. force him to resign!)

Gene was reiterating what our position has been all along: that any big budget deal is going to have to include significant revenues if Republicans insist on entitlement reforms

Since that isn't going to happen I would say that the 2014 GE will shape up as a battle between revenue and reduction of benefit.

and who has won in the budget battles? And, who is it that feels "Compromise" is worth more than a fight.

Granted Syria was a win for PBO...and a positive step. But, the Shut Down was a "Kick the Can Down the Road by putting a "Bicameral" Group together to make recommendations. And that smacks of "Simpson/Bowles, II."

That's the concern. Chained CPI spun as only a small sacrifice for Seniors for a trade off in a Small Amount of give aways to Big Business and the 1%.

I hope for better. Let's all hope for better. But, we need to prepare for the Worst and fight to make sure it isn't the Worst. Just saying....

not to raise taxes, so Democrats have no choice but to cut entitlement benefits to achieve the deficit reduction Republicans demand. No other options are available for Democrats but to suck it up and give Boehner, Bachmann, and Cruz all they demand. See, that was so easy.

We'll gladly sign on.