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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 05:08 PM Oct 2013

GOP Has Lost Seniors: 65% Unfavorability

GOP Has Lost Seniors: 65% Unfavorability

by FishOutofWater

In just one year, the unfavorability ratings of the GOP have risen an astounding 19% to 65% with the 65+ age bracket, the Americans most likely to vote in mid-term elections. Ongoing efforts by Paul Ryan and the GOP to cut Social Security and Medicare will cement this landslide shift in how seniors view the GOP. Moreover, GOP support from college educated whites has collapsed. Seventy percent of college educated whites, a solid voting block in off-year elections views the GOP unfavorably, up 21% in 13 months.

The government shut down has been worse than New Coke for the GOP's brand.

GOP gerrymandering, which has given extreme right wing rural districts control of the Republican party, is destroying the Republican party from within. Citizens United, which has given extreme right wing billionaires control of the Republican party is backfiring on the right-wing supreme court justices. Over 80% of Americans think the shut down hurt the economy and the GOP takes the lion's share of the blame.

The government shut down may trigger the collapse of the Republican Party as a national party.

From Greg Sargent re:WaPo/ABC poll internals:

the GOP’s unfavorable ratings have jumped 19 points among seniors, to 65 percent; 17 points among independents, to 67 percent; and 10 points among women, to 63 percent. Those are all key constituencies in midterm elections.

Observers believe that over the long term, the GOP will have to do a better job winning over college educated whites, who are an increasingly important constituency, along with young voters and minorities, in the Democratic coalition of the future. (Ron Brownstein has dubbed these groups the “coalition of the ascendant,” arguing they are increasingly important in statewide races, not just national ones.)

Among white collar whites, the GOP’s unfavorability rating has shot up by a startling 21 points, to 70 percent. Among college educated women – who may be more critical to the Dem coalition than college educated men – the spike in GOP unfavorability has been somewhat more dramatic than among women overall, jumping 15 points, to 74 percent. If this trend continues, it could fuel future Dem gains among women.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/10/25/1250561/-GOP-Has-Lost-Seniors-65-Unfavorability

PPP Poll: Dems Could Win 'Sizable Majority' in House in 2014 - Pickup Opps in 49 of 61 Districts
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023893429


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GOP Has Lost Seniors: 65% Unfavorability (Original Post) ProSense Oct 2013 OP
Arrange the deck chairs and cue "Nearer My God to Thee." Arugula Latte Oct 2013 #1
Seems they prefer this song: ProSense Oct 2013 #3
I love your penquin gif pennylane100 Oct 2013 #4
I chuckle when I see that too davekriss Oct 2013 #24
Me too. dflprincess Oct 2013 #26
Thanks, glad you guys like it! Arugula Latte Oct 2013 #40
Cracks me up too treestar Oct 2013 #44
Would it be 1% and... JimboBillyBubbaBob Oct 2013 #27
Their most supportive seniors are Charles and David upaloopa Oct 2013 #2
Jeepers! What's left? tanyev Oct 2013 #5
Old straight white male billionaire religious zealots. AnnetteJacobs Oct 2013 #25
Almost one-quarter of all Americans, sadly. sofa king Oct 2013 #43
GEE' Whoda Thunk IT ! ruffburr Oct 2013 #6
Good. Now, how about we DON'T bail them out this time LondonReign2 Oct 2013 #7
Too late.. Fumesucker Oct 2013 #9
This is media spin nonsense. ProSense Oct 2013 #11
That's exactly what the dems are getting ready to do stuckinodi Oct 2013 #10
And they vote. Kingofalldems Oct 2013 #8
I think these bad numbers are going to stick. tridim Oct 2013 #12
So who is left? CanonRay Oct 2013 #13
My mom, at 87 has always been a Democrat. sheshe2 Oct 2013 #14
In addition to scaring seniors, I guess Republicans will ProSense Oct 2013 #16
Bingo, and thanks~ sheshe2 Oct 2013 #18
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Rex Oct 2013 #15
It's no accident that all we're hearing from the opponents is "NSA"! "Healthcare.gov". Blah...Blah Tarheel_Dem Oct 2013 #17
I thought they were toast. Now I think they may be charcoal. AAO Oct 2013 #19
They still have the Supreme Court doing everything possible to make sure world wide wally Oct 2013 #20
67% among Senior women is a Huge #, Nice! sarcasmo Oct 2013 #21
Good you'd be crazy if you vote gop as a senior gopiscrap Oct 2013 #22
any woman who votes for Republicans is an idiot RainDog Oct 2013 #23
Hmmm, add women, minorities, liberals/progressives, labor, Democrats independents..... What is left lostincalifornia Oct 2013 #28
Adelson, Murdoch, Ailes, Scaife--rich old racist white men and their tblue37 Oct 2013 #37
Kick! sheshe2 Oct 2013 #29
K&R Cha Oct 2013 #30
Please Please Democrats don't figure out a way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory NBachers Oct 2013 #31
Some of Obama's dumb ass advisers just might figure out a way to do it. Elwood P Dowd Oct 2013 #32
"It'll take a lotta brains, brawn, and commitment - but I think we can make it happen" NBachers Oct 2013 #34
My father fights this fight every Wednesday night at Karaoke... ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #33
Their chickens are not only coming home to roost, they're pooping all over the house Hekate Oct 2013 #35
I do wish, though that the Dem leaders, including Obama, would quit trying to tblue37 Oct 2013 #36
That could change if enough Democrats get behind cutting Social Security eridani Oct 2013 #38
Exactly why democrats need to protect Social Security from B Calm Oct 2013 #39
Great:) So no chained-CPI, no cuts to SS, right! grahamhgreen Oct 2013 #41
"chained-CPI" would affect those born after 1960, not the current seniors Kolesar Oct 2013 #45
Read The Jungle to find out how corporations feel about the old and weak... Orsino Oct 2013 #42
Shock Early Poll: Brownback Trails Democrat Paul Davis in Kansas ProSense Oct 2013 #46
I can't wait to watch the seniors chase these crazy baldheads malaise Oct 2013 #47
Finally! Quantess Oct 2013 #48

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
3. Seems they prefer this song:
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 05:16 PM
Oct 2013
Boehner and his leadership team had no choice but to move their own bill, aides say. The opposition to the Senate’s bill was stiff. In the House Republican conference meeting Tuesday, leadership put up a slide that read “Senate Jam.” At the beginning of the meeting, Republicans sang “Amazing Grace,” according to sources present.

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/10/government-shutdown-debt-ceiling-default-update-98317_Page2.html


Report: House GOP Sang 'Amazing Grace' At Caucus Meeting

<...>

Upon hearing that the Republicans members sang the funeral hymn, Rep. Gerry Connelly (D-GA), said he was confused as to why the Republicans would sing the song during the shutdown.

"I hope they understand the derivations of those lyrics," Connolly told the Huffington Post. "It was written by a slave trader who came to be filled with remorse for his actions. His words say, 'I was blind but now I see' ... He is remorseful for his past and takes responsibility for those actions and sees the saving light of grace, even for a wretch like himself."

Connelly added that he hoped the song signaled a turning point in negotiations.

"I'm not saying my colleagues are wretches," he added. "But I hope what that indicates, the symbolism of singing that beautiful hymn that all Americans share, is that there's some saving grace here."

- more -

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/house-gop-sang-amazing-grace-at-caucus-meeting



pennylane100

(3,425 posts)
4. I love your penquin gif
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 05:17 PM
Oct 2013

I can look at it three or four times and laugh each time. I am not sure what that says about my lack of compassion as I like to have a lot, but it is always funny.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
44. Cracks me up too
Sat Oct 26, 2013, 12:56 PM
Oct 2013

The confident swagger followed by the crash into the water! He's a penguin, so that's no biggie!

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
43. Almost one-quarter of all Americans, sadly.
Sat Oct 26, 2013, 12:55 PM
Oct 2013

Reports of the death of the Republican Party are greatly exaggerated. Almost one in four Americans meets the definition of "right wing authoritarians," people who cling heavily to religion, racism, nationalism and conservative politics, and who are motivated primarily by fear.

RWAs turn out to vote in much higher numbers than most other voters--probably including the elderly because a high percentage of the elderly have been RWAs all their lives and should be included in that voting group rather than among non-RWA elderly voters.

Since fewer than half of all Americans turn out to vote at all, RWAs have spelled the difference between defeat and close-enough-to-steal-it for the past fifteen years. They were the bedrock of W. Bush's "hicktory" in 2000 and backed him and his party until death. That death part is a tricky problem for the GOP, because GOP policies tend to shorten the lives of the vulnerable--especially those who are not well equipped to think for themselves, like RWAs--but the demographics of that die-off have yet to make a solid imprint on American politics, staved off primarily through vote suppression, gerrymandering, and massive campaign spending.

The 23% figure for right-wing authoritarians in the US is traceable backward in time for decades, and similar population estimates show up in virtually every other country that succumbed to fascism, as we have. This suggests to me that there may be some genetic basis for right-wing authoritarianism--it appears to be directly related to stupidity, and no I am not kidding about that at all.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
11. This is media spin nonsense.
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 05:52 PM
Oct 2013

From the article at the link:

“Sometimes here (in Washington) we start to think that the end goal of our public policy is to hit a particular budget or spending or revenue metric—as if those are the goals in and of itself. But it’s important to remember that each of these metrics … are means to larger goals. … Right now, I think there is among a lot of people a consensus as to what the ingredients of a pro-growth fiscal policy are. It would be a fiscal policy that—yes—did give more confidence in the long run that we have a path on entitlement spending and revenues that gives confidence in our long-term fiscal position and that we’re not pushing off unbearable burdens to the next generation. That is very important.”

That’s a vague, guarded, jargon-y Washington way of saying, “We’re going to have to accept entitlement cuts—get used to it.” Then came the justification, which was the weakness of the economic recovery:

“You have to think about this as part of an overall pro-growth, pro-jobs strategy. Also, there’s no question that right now we still need to give this recovery more momentum. We cannot possibly be satisfied with the levels of projected growth when we are still coming back from the worst recession since the Great Depression.

Sperling's comment before and after the bogus quote (in bold) implied nothing of the sort. I mean, why is it necessary to invent a quote?

Here is the program:

http://www.c-span.org/Events/Presidential-Economic-Policy-Advisor-Speaks-with-Business-Leadership/10737442297-1/

Ryan wants entitlement cuts, Reid says 'NO WAY'
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023915052

tridim

(45,358 posts)
12. I think these bad numbers are going to stick.
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 05:54 PM
Oct 2013

There's nothing the GOP can do now to reverse the trend. Every card they hold is negative and depressing.

I think we're witnessing an actual-factual death spiral.

sheshe2

(83,771 posts)
14. My mom, at 87 has always been a Democrat.
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 06:17 PM
Oct 2013

My dad always went back and forth, yet in 2008 he declared that he would be voting for Barack Obama.

Sad to say he was unable to vote in 2012. At 91 he is in a nursing home with Alzheimers.

It thrills me to see that the GOP/TP have lost seniors. I guess they fully understand just who is trying to push them over the cliff.

Thanks, PS. This is good news.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
16. In addition to scaring seniors, I guess Republicans will
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 07:08 PM
Oct 2013

come to realize that furloughed employees have mothers and grandmothers.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
15. BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 06:18 PM
Oct 2013

And, as usual, the crazy wing of the GOP will declare it a smashing victory for the Tea Party!

Tarheel_Dem

(31,234 posts)
17. It's no accident that all we're hearing from the opponents is "NSA"! "Healthcare.gov". Blah...Blah
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 07:10 PM
Oct 2013

And sadly, they get a heavy assist from some pretty specious liberal outlets, and Mr. Greenwald. It's no accident. Liberals, many of whom are not Democrats, can't help but shoot themselves in the foot. They know better than anyone how to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

On to 2014! Let's kick some GOP ass!

world wide wally

(21,743 posts)
20. They still have the Supreme Court doing everything possible to make sure
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 07:50 PM
Oct 2013

Republicans get everything they want.

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
23. any woman who votes for Republicans is an idiot
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 10:44 PM
Oct 2013

I have a relative who learned a phrase, long ago. She doesn't really care about politics. She cares about time spent with her family. Her husband is a free-market capitalist.

So, for more than two decades, when ever any issue has been broached between us (which isn't often), she says "We tried some things and they didn't work." As if this is a blanket explanation for every backward social policy stance toward females, children, the working poor, the uninsured, etc. etc. that ever existed.

She's an idiot, iow. I love her, but she's an idiot about these things.

I have a hard time finding any respect for any woman that can't take the time to figure out that the Republican Party has worked to harm women for decades.

But as long as she doesn't feel it, it's not worth bothering her head to find out if her pat remark is a waste of air.

tblue37

(65,358 posts)
37. Adelson, Murdoch, Ailes, Scaife--rich old racist white men and their
Sat Oct 26, 2013, 04:52 AM
Oct 2013

Flunkies and public mouths, like Limbaugh, O'Reilly, Beck, etc.

NBachers

(17,110 posts)
31. Please Please Democrats don't figure out a way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory
Sat Oct 26, 2013, 02:44 AM
Oct 2013

this time.

DON'T FUCK IT UP THIS TIME!

Elwood P Dowd

(11,443 posts)
32. Some of Obama's dumb ass advisers just might figure out a way to do it.
Sat Oct 26, 2013, 02:54 AM
Oct 2013

Pushing job killing trade deals

Cutting Social Security with the Chained CPI

Compromising with repuke fascists in Congress

Extending Bush tax cuts for the rich

Continuing the dumb ass wars for five years

Placing Monsanto trash in key USDA positions


Just a few examples

NBachers

(17,110 posts)
34. "It'll take a lotta brains, brawn, and commitment - but I think we can make it happen"
Sat Oct 26, 2013, 03:04 AM
Oct 2013

as senior Democratic authorities stack the deck against us once again.

"Phew, that was close. Without our hard work, we might've won this time."

Hekate

(90,690 posts)
35. Their chickens are not only coming home to roost, they're pooping all over the house
Sat Oct 26, 2013, 04:24 AM
Oct 2013

The GOP has done so much evil in my lifetime -- an absolute collapse would be just what they deserve.

tblue37

(65,358 posts)
36. I do wish, though that the Dem leaders, including Obama, would quit trying to
Sat Oct 26, 2013, 04:49 AM
Oct 2013

help the Repubs find a way to reduce future Social Security and Medicare benefits!

They are shooting themselves in the foot, so there is no good reason for the Democrats to try to stick OUR foot in between theirs and the bullet.

eridani

(51,907 posts)
38. That could change if enough Democrats get behind cutting Social Security
Sat Oct 26, 2013, 05:31 AM
Oct 2013

The Repukes will play the "Democrats did it first" card, which will cut into our gains.

 

grahamhgreen

(15,741 posts)
41. Great:) So no chained-CPI, no cuts to SS, right!
Sat Oct 26, 2013, 11:46 AM
Oct 2013

After all, SS does not add one nickel to the deficit!

Kolesar

(31,182 posts)
45. "chained-CPI" would affect those born after 1960, not the current seniors
Sat Oct 26, 2013, 03:16 PM
Oct 2013

We younger retirees will feel the effect of the compounded 0.3% rate cut, not the current seniors.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
42. Read The Jungle to find out how corporations feel about the old and weak...
Sat Oct 26, 2013, 11:54 AM
Oct 2013

...and the GOP platform makes perfect sense.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
46. Shock Early Poll: Brownback Trails Democrat Paul Davis in Kansas
Sat Oct 26, 2013, 07:56 PM
Oct 2013
Shock Early Poll: Brownback Trails Democrat Paul Davis in Kansas
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/10/26/1250796/-Shock-Early-Poll-Brownback-Trails-Democrat-Paul-Davis-in-Kansas

...and more:

North Carolina GOP makes matters worse
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023921096

FreedomWorks: What I Witnessed In Austin This Weekend Shook Me To My Core
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023918723

McConnell drops behind Grimes (D)// McConnell says he will prevent next shutdown
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023873012
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