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11 Bravo

(23,926 posts)
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 06:18 PM Oct 2013

Got into it with a teabagger at work today, regarding bagger racism.

She claimed that there is zero evidence of any racist inclinations in the Tea Party. I pointed out to her the numerous Obama-as-witch doctor signs, Confederate flags, and White House watermelon patch posters that have shown up at their rallies; as well as the shameful use of the n-word which was tossed at John Conyers and others back when the Tealiban was first getting cranked up.
She latched onto the Conyers incident and actually said to me, "That has been disproved. There's no video, and if there's no video, it did not happen". I replied, "Wow, then if it wasn't for that damned Abraham Zapruder, JFK would still be alive, right?"
I have no idea how to spell or in any way represent the spluttering sounds that she made while the staff lunch room dissolved into giggles as she stormed out.

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Got into it with a teabagger at work today, regarding bagger racism. (Original Post) 11 Bravo Oct 2013 OP
OH,OH OH, What about the black congressman who was spit upon by a bagger? notadmblnd Oct 2013 #1
That video and the incident itself are chilling. mountain grammy Oct 2013 #31
I would have said to the bagger.. SummerSnow Oct 2013 #2
Perfect! AndyA Oct 2013 #8
Ya, when you tell them facts and reasons they get this vein protruding from their temples SummerSnow Oct 2013 #11
There is no Video of her brain either can't be there Heather MC Oct 2013 #26
Bingo.. SummerSnow Oct 2013 #34
i find their thought process to mentally painful Heather MC Oct 2013 #35
Extreme fear makes people do crazy things. AAO Oct 2013 #59
That like the ad, if it's on the internet it must be true! JimboBillyBubbaBob Oct 2013 #54
Well, just hope she didn't storm into HR with a complaint about you Warpy Oct 2013 #3
Bingo! Thats why you just walk away and don't try to talk sense to them. nt wandy Oct 2013 #9
Oh, I do a bit more than that. Warpy Oct 2013 #10
nope! You get to edumacate onlookers! annabanana Oct 2013 #51
Hostile work environment: "Coworkers keep talking about facts when I'm around!" n/t Beartracks Oct 2013 #41
none are so blind noiretextatique Oct 2013 #4
but probably doesn't consider it racist. AlbertCat Oct 2013 #39
always a dead giveaway noiretextatique Oct 2013 #63
Start here Ian David Oct 2013 #5
The Freepers handwaved that away pitbullgirl1965 Oct 2013 #16
You can't argue with people who don't believe in fossils. n/t Ian David Oct 2013 #37
Oh, they believe in fossils. Enthusiast Oct 2013 #44
Lucky you didnt get hollered at using tinyurl DiverDave Oct 2013 #42
Also can't forget madamesilverspurs Oct 2013 #6
We have a black (or part black) Prez, so it's a post-racial world, dontchaknow! Beartracks Oct 2013 #62
I remember the John Conyers incident and BellaKos Oct 2013 #7
How big is your company? B2G Oct 2013 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author 11 Bravo Oct 2013 #21
I suggest that you remove the name of your employer ASAP grasswire Oct 2013 #27
Thanks, you might be right. I don't personally give a fuck, but I actually am using a friend's ... 11 Bravo Oct 2013 #33
"the staff lunch room dissolved into giggles" xfundy Oct 2013 #13
Bravo! Poor thing is in deep denial.. Cha Oct 2013 #14
I've had that talk with a few teabaggers I've met... Ohio Joe Oct 2013 #15
She is one titanicdave Oct 2013 #17
Whenever I get into one of these conversations I usually hear this Snake Plissken Oct 2013 #18
Hey, come on now, be fair. quakerboy Oct 2013 #55
That's the thing about racists, they don't think they're racists. Fuddnik Oct 2013 #19
Nice Riposte cantbeserious Oct 2013 #20
... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2013 #22
I think the Racism accusations don't get at the larger point, which is: maxsolomon Oct 2013 #23
Ya gotta one up Horace and tell 'em Culus, non decipimur specie (we are not deceived by the MADem Oct 2013 #36
You can't reason with 'those people' ailsagirl Oct 2013 #24
She's also defending what she says in "white only" company. JoePhilly Oct 2013 #25
^This^ n/t Gormy Cuss Oct 2013 #45
Bravo! bearssoapbox Oct 2013 #28
Well you know that a--hole Don Yelton NC Rethug doc03 Oct 2013 #29
Tea nuts hate facts. sarcasmo Oct 2013 #30
Conservatives hate logic. JEFF9K Oct 2013 #32
Excellent retort. freshwest Oct 2013 #38
Spitting in John Lewis' face. JohnnyRingo Oct 2013 #40
Baggers are unwitting Brown Shirts Enthusiast Oct 2013 #43
Baggers are serial liars. Why start believing them NOW??? blkmusclmachine Oct 2013 #46
Heres some video of Teabillies shouting n-word loudly and proudly..... marble falls Oct 2013 #47
There are no videos of the bible stories either! Thucydides Oct 2013 #48
Even the KKK has agreed that a racist element exists TxDemChem Oct 2013 #49
"the lunchroom dissolved into giggles" annabanana Oct 2013 #50
Yikes. "if there's no video, it did not happen?" DirkGently Oct 2013 #52
Wow, no video to prove it, then it didn't happen. Curmudgeoness Oct 2013 #53
Im surprised you could find a Bagger. quakerboy Oct 2013 #56
Doesn't matter what you call it - it's the same people. AAO Oct 2013 #60
I get hit up at work by the teabaggers humbled_opinion Oct 2013 #57
Take every opportunity to humiliate a teabagger AAO Oct 2013 #58
There have been tons of blatant examples! For starters, how about Quantess Oct 2013 #61

mountain grammy

(26,621 posts)
31. That video and the incident itself are chilling.
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 08:45 PM
Oct 2013

Anyone looking at that and not seeing racism is not seeing anything.

SummerSnow

(12,608 posts)
2. I would have said to the bagger..
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 06:24 PM
Oct 2013

"There was no video of Obama born in Africa either , so I guess he wasn't born there either"


She said no video , no evidence, right?


AndyA

(16,993 posts)
8. Perfect!
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 06:27 PM
Oct 2013

They don't like it when their own screwed up justifications are used to prove points they don't agree with! Strains their tiny little minds.

 

Heather MC

(8,084 posts)
26. There is no Video of her brain either can't be there
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 08:27 PM
Oct 2013

Also by her Logic, All Convicted Rapist, Murders, child molester and so on NEVER Committed a crime if there was no Video.

Warpy

(111,261 posts)
3. Well, just hope she didn't storm into HR with a complaint about you
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 06:24 PM
Oct 2013

One thing you can be sure of with the teabaggers, they're petty, mean spirited, and spiteful.

Warpy

(111,261 posts)
10. Oh, I do a bit more than that.
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 06:40 PM
Oct 2013

My response is generally "You bought that?" and then I walk away chuckling and twirling my index finger next to my temple.

They find other suckers the next time they want to rant and I can sit happily with my knitting or my book.

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
4. none are so blind
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 06:25 PM
Oct 2013

as those who refuse to see. she probably knows about all the racist stuff, but probably doesn't consider it racist.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
39. but probably doesn't consider it racist.
Sat Oct 26, 2013, 10:42 AM
Oct 2013

Hell, some of her BEST FRIENDS are jungle bu..... er ...colored fo.... uh..... blacks.

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
63. always a dead giveaway
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 05:55 PM
Oct 2013

and let's not forget, there are black people like clarence thomas, herman cain, condelezza rice, etc., who probably would befriend racists. they certain don't have a lot of black friends

pitbullgirl1965

(564 posts)
16. The Freepers handwaved that away
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 08:05 PM
Oct 2013

They claimed she was a possible threat and a known MoveOn operative. They rationalize everything no matter how bad it looks. And that was bad. That bastard shoved her down, the women just stepped over her, and that hateful pos stomping on her.

You know damn well he would have used more force if he could get away with it.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
44. Oh, they believe in fossils.
Sat Oct 26, 2013, 12:55 PM
Oct 2013

They believe the devil put them there to trick us or God put them there to test our faith. Your choice.

DiverDave

(4,886 posts)
42. Lucky you didnt get hollered at using tinyurl
Sat Oct 26, 2013, 12:44 PM
Oct 2013

last time I used it somebody accused me of trying to send THEM (how can I send someone I dont even know?) anyhow send them to a 'bad place for my computer' or some such.

I wasnt even aware that people were doing that, but I was schooled.
Wasnt nice the way I was treated, but thats ok here I guess.
Just thought I'd warn you that you might run across that here.

madamesilverspurs

(15,804 posts)
6. Also can't forget
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 06:26 PM
Oct 2013

the Glenn Beck Teabaggers who spit on John Lewis, behavior that was most certainly caught on video but predictably dismissed by Fox et al.

My personal favorite was the teabagger's response to me: I can't be racist because Obama is half-white.

Beartracks

(12,814 posts)
62. We have a black (or part black) Prez, so it's a post-racial world, dontchaknow!
Sat Oct 26, 2013, 10:13 PM
Oct 2013

"What we're doing isn't racism, because having a black President means racism is over. We CAN'T be racists!"

==============

BellaKos

(318 posts)
7. I remember the John Conyers incident and
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 06:27 PM
Oct 2013

the response from Faux and Ditto-whirl. They actually promoted the LIE that it didn't really happen, so that's where your co-worker got it from.
And that's the problem. She really has no awareness of reality on our planet. She's far more comfortable having her ego stroked and her prejudices stoked by the lies and distortions in the Ditto-whirl of her imagination. So, no wonder she stormed out. She quite literally can't handle the truth.

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
12. How big is your company?
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 06:45 PM
Oct 2013

I can't even imagine having, much less listening to a conversation like that in the workplace.

Response to B2G (Reply #12)

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
27. I suggest that you remove the name of your employer ASAP
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 08:31 PM
Oct 2013

We have stalkers here at DU -- right wingers who get particular satisfaction out of making trouble for DUers in the real world and have even gotten at least one person fired from her job.

11 Bravo

(23,926 posts)
33. Thanks, you might be right. I don't personally give a fuck, but I actually am using a friend's ...
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 08:54 PM
Oct 2013

computer at this moment, so your's was probably a good idea.

xfundy

(5,105 posts)
13. "the staff lunch room dissolved into giggles"
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 06:58 PM
Oct 2013

I would certainly hope so! Is she aware that she's in a minority? Does she spew that shit at everyone or just you?

If nothing else, the confederate flag @ the white house should stand for plenty, but of course she stopped using her brain a loooooong time ago, preferring to have shit shoveled into it by the daily Foks.

Ohio Joe

(21,756 posts)
15. I've had that talk with a few teabaggers I've met...
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 07:17 PM
Oct 2013

I give them the same challenge. I send them a link to freeper land, ask them to read through 4 or 5 threads of their own choosing and then we will talk about it... None of them have ever come back to talk though,,, Imagine that.

Snake Plissken

(4,103 posts)
18. Whenever I get into one of these conversations I usually hear this
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 08:10 PM
Oct 2013

'How can I be a racist if I support Clarence Thomas and Alan Keyes?'

As if supporting a few Black people who hate other Black people somehow makes them less of a racist.

Fuddnik

(8,846 posts)
19. That's the thing about racists, they don't think they're racists.
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 08:10 PM
Oct 2013

I don't know how they get into such deep denial.

A few months ago, I called out my 84 yo father on his racism. And he's been a racist his entire life. Fundie, Bircher, you name it.

He said "I don't hate niggers, I just don't want to be around them. I'm not a racist"

I replied, "You're a racist".

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
23. I think the Racism accusations don't get at the larger point, which is:
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 08:14 PM
Oct 2013

the Tea Party is just wrong about everything. Everything.

They are the new Know-Nothings. Right-wing Populism has no use for facts.

Decipimur Specie Recti. We are deceived by the appearance of rectitude (Horace)

MADem

(135,425 posts)
36. Ya gotta one up Horace and tell 'em Culus, non decipimur specie (we are not deceived by the
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 09:53 PM
Oct 2013

appearance of assholes!).

ailsagirl

(22,897 posts)
24. You can't reason with 'those people'
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 08:20 PM
Oct 2013

But good riposte!!!

(storming out of the room-- that's what Boner does when he gets flummoxed!!)

Way to win an argument!!

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
25. She's also defending what she says in "white only" company.
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 08:24 PM
Oct 2013

Racists think that they can say racist things just so long as there is no one of that race present.

No one will know, so no one will be offended, so its not really racist.

A real racist would use the N-word openly, in a mixed race setting.

And since she doesn't do that, she isn't a racist.

bearssoapbox

(1,408 posts)
28. Bravo!
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 08:33 PM
Oct 2013

11 Bravo

Bravo!



I got finally got tired of being nice a couple of years ago when my patriotism was brought up by a couple of cousins after I pointed out some lies that Faux News told. They were very nasty about it. None of the 12 or 14 kids or the parents in that family served one second in any military branch and they all know my story. It's one of the reasons that I'm disabled.

They (my aunt and uncle) live in a house that the government helped them buy back in the '70's, the husband bragged, when he got drunk, about how his wife didn't have to work because of the income tax credits and the government help they received.

They all turned out as wing nutty as their parents and can't see the hypocrisy of their current beliefs compared to what government programs that they had the advantage of while growing up.

It's Faux News and right wing radio 24/7 and they (SURPRISE!) hate President Obama.

But not because he's black.

No...No...No...

So to hell with them.

They think that they can talk to people that they disagree with any way they want then get on their high horse when someone tells them how wrong they are and provide proof and facts.

That's when the personal attacks begin.

Oh well. Like I said. To hell with them and being nice.

doc03

(35,338 posts)
29. Well you know that a--hole Don Yelton NC Rethug
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 08:35 PM
Oct 2013

that made the comments about the lazy blacks. I overheard a couple of your Teabaggers at the gym today talking about him having the balls to tell it like it is. Every teabagger I ever encountered has made it obvious they are prejudiced assholes when you talk to them for a few seconds. The Koch brothers, Glenn Beck and others know what buttons to push.

JohnnyRingo

(18,633 posts)
40. Spitting in John Lewis' face.
Sat Oct 26, 2013, 11:42 AM
Oct 2013

That was absolutely a Tea Bagger, and despite his weasel denial, he did indeed hock one right on the congressman's face when the House was filing in for a budget vote the T-Party didn't like. He was jeering all the reps, but the sight of a civil rights leader in the line was obviously more than he could take.

That doesn't prove all 'Baggers are racist, but all the ones I personally know are. January 2008 really brought it to the surface, and friends whom I never suspected let it be known to me how they feel about African Americans on that date.

Edited to add:

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
43. Baggers are unwitting Brown Shirts
Sat Oct 26, 2013, 12:52 PM
Oct 2013

protecting the interests of their corporate overlords. Fascists need scapegoats. You know the scapegoats.

TxDemChem

(1,918 posts)
49. Even the KKK has agreed that a racist element exists
Sat Oct 26, 2013, 02:31 PM
Oct 2013

in the Tea Party. Grayson was absolutely correct.

DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
52. Yikes. "if there's no video, it did not happen?"
Sat Oct 26, 2013, 02:38 PM
Oct 2013

That's someone telling you they are devoted to irrationality, right there. It's a huge red flag to even toss out an argument like that.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
53. Wow, no video to prove it, then it didn't happen.
Sat Oct 26, 2013, 03:22 PM
Oct 2013

Well, I guess we don't have a Constitution either....how do we know for sure that it was signed by all those people instead of being a forgery. And we don't have proof that we fought the Revolutionary War. And I guess that Jesus never happened.

Sometimes, the stupid amaze me.

quakerboy

(13,920 posts)
56. Im surprised you could find a Bagger.
Sat Oct 26, 2013, 04:56 PM
Oct 2013

Seems to me that most of them have noticed how poorly people regard their little Klan, and have moved on to "Im not in the Tea Party, but...".

Oh.. and also "Why are you liberals always name calling? Do you know what Tea bagging is? That's so offensive, why does the democrat party always resort to bad language and name calling"

 

AAO

(3,300 posts)
60. Doesn't matter what you call it - it's the same people.
Sat Oct 26, 2013, 06:20 PM
Oct 2013

Listen to them and it won't take long to realize they are baggers.

humbled_opinion

(4,423 posts)
57. I get hit up at work by the teabaggers
Sat Oct 26, 2013, 05:17 PM
Oct 2013

Who claim there is a whole host of black tea party members and when I bring up incidents that happen at events like the confederate flag they actually tell me it is liberal plants trying to make a bad name for the tea party that is how deluded they are, but I have to admit I wish I had a come back for the black conservative claim....

Quantess

(27,630 posts)
61. There have been tons of blatant examples! For starters, how about
Sat Oct 26, 2013, 09:28 PM
Oct 2013

the illustration of watermelon patch on the white house lawn?

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