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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,010 posts)
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 06:38 PM Oct 2013

Ted Cruz will be president if Democrats listen to Elizabeth Warren, warns Republican

What’s that, Daily Beast? “How Ted Cruz Can Win in 2016?? Oh, you are still around, and still doing this sort of thing? That’s great. Let’s take the bait, I guess.

Our dutiful “hot take” artist today is David Frum, the famous apostate Republican who has dedicated the last few years to building a new Republican Party that is more moderate, more rational and less dedicated to taking dead-ender stands on cultural issues. He is not, in other words, the sort of Republican Ted Cruz appeals to.

Frum has devoted more words to Cruz’s savvy than to his worldview, but he has expressed a wish for the Tea Party to form a third party and “liberate Republicans from identification with the Sarah Palins and the Ted Cruzes who have done so much harm to their hopes over the past three election cycles.” Comparing Cruz to Palin and saying he hurts the ability of Republicans to win elections would seem to make a “how Cruz can win” piece unlikely, but Frum’s argument is not aimed at Republicans. And it’s not wishful thinking. It’s a dire warning of a dystopian future!

In this terrifyingly real scenario, the U.S. tips back into recession, Republicans win huge in 2014 and Democrats respond by getting more aggressively populist on economic and financial issues. These Democrats revolt against Hillary Clinton, and Obama’s moderation, and embrace, instead, Elizabeth Warren. Warren, slightly oddly, decides to run against Clinton, and the bruising primary fight divides and weakens the party.

Cruz, meanwhile, capitalizes on the shutdown and his general reputation for being a huge dick all the time and handily wins the nomination. Then he moves to the center, sort of!


Ted Cruz, however, could offer the vice presidency to Chris Christie — and the Democrats’ post-2014 leftward veer frightened Republican donors enough that they pressed Christie to accept. Unlike Romney in 2012, Cruz’s conservative allegiance could not be questioned, freeing him to write the vaguest platform and conduct the most issue-free campaign of any Republican since George H.W. Bush in 1988. Cruz delivered half his convention speech in Spanish and used the other half to rededicate the party to “the compassion of conservatism,” a subtle variant of an old phrase that delighted convention delegates.

http://www.salon.com/2013/10/25/ted_cruz_will_be_president_if_democrats_listen_to_elizabeth_warren_warns_republican/

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Ted Cruz will be president if Democrats listen to Elizabeth Warren, warns Republican (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2013 OP
Oh! I thought this was another Hillary better be the nominee thread! djean111 Oct 2013 #1
It isn't? daleanime Oct 2013 #2
You're right. It is. n/t Laelth Oct 2013 #13
Why yes, winter is coming Oct 2013 #3
They fear her. Scuba Oct 2013 #4
+1 nt TBF Oct 2013 #5
+1. n/t Laelth Oct 2013 #14
Well hell we better do what they say! Rex Oct 2013 #6
At least it wasn't a DUer that said it FiveGoodMen Oct 2013 #7
Aliens could land in a corn field in Iowa Aerows Oct 2013 #8
what Tea Party Republicans like Cruz and Country Club Republicans like David Frum have in common Douglas Carpenter Oct 2013 #9
Well Said, Sir The Magistrate Oct 2013 #11
make mine a double. spanone Oct 2013 #10
Seldom will you see such a response from me. Laelth Oct 2013 #12
And no time better than now for EW. We need her! Scuba Oct 2013 #16
Hear, hear! n/t Laelth Oct 2013 #21
Please don't throw us in that briar patch! xfundy Oct 2013 #15
David Frum wants a little GOP love. Octafish Oct 2013 #17
Elizabeth Warren will be President if Republicans listen to Ted Cruz. (nt) enough Oct 2013 #18
Spot on. n/t Laelth Oct 2013 #22
R#5 & K for, Ted Carnival CRUZ will *NEVER* be prez. Just kicking to say that. n/t UTUSN Oct 2013 #19
LOL ananda Oct 2013 #20
Rafael will not be President until I see a birth tsuki Oct 2013 #23
 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
8. Aliens could land in a corn field in Iowa
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 06:55 PM
Oct 2013

I'm not expecting it to happen, and neither are Republicans. They are scared shitless they've screwed themselves, and should be. The Tea Party and it's adherents are named crap by Republicans, never mind Democrats.

2014 is going to see them ushered out of Congress and into asylums where they belong, even in red states. They plain went too far, now they get to reap what was sewn. I say this from the South. You have some affiliates that would do anything, including burning a cross, to get the nation's attention, but you also have those that realize idiocy and racism will be their downfall.

Time will tell.

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
9. what Tea Party Republicans like Cruz and Country Club Republicans like David Frum have in common
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 07:06 PM
Oct 2013

is the deeply held belief that all of America's problems are caused by rich people not having enough money. They know very well that the economic populism of someone like Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren strikes a chord across the entire political spectrum with almost everyone except the rich.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
12. Seldom will you see such a response from me.
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 07:21 PM
Oct 2013

But to David Frum I say, bullshit! The chances are very high that, no matter whom we run in 2016, we will win. That's what the polls say. That's what the demographics say. That's what the electoral math says, and David Frum is full of shit.

He's hoping that we don't run Elizabeth Warren because he doesn't want to see a real liberal in office, but I am convinced that she can win. In fact, barring something bizarre and unforeseen, it doesn't matter who we run. We're going to win.

Ted Cruz, on the other hand, ...

-Laelth

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
17. David Frum wants a little GOP love.
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 07:38 PM
Oct 2013

Cruz will clear the minefield for the next democracy destroyer. Frum's carrying water for Jebthro.

tsuki

(11,994 posts)
23. Rafael will not be President until I see a birth
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 10:13 PM
Oct 2013

certificate issued by the State Department of a live birth of an American citizen abroad. I won't ask to see the long form, just the certificate.

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