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Better Believe It

(18,630 posts) Tue Mar 6, 2012, 05:08 PM Mar 2012

OOOPPPSSS! I really hate to see this happen to an Air Force fighter plane.

Sure I do.

I laughed my ass off.

I feel sorry for the poor crane operator.

Must see video!

http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/crane-destroys-fighter-jet/20g1lkhb?q=viral&rel=msn&from=en-us_msnhp&form=MSNRLL

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OOOPPPSSS! I really hate to see this happen to an Air Force fighter plane. (Original Post) Better Believe It Mar 2012 OP

We are still waiting for that new record.. snooper2 Mar 2012 #1

I have no idea about what you are writing about. Better Believe It Mar 2012 #10

Stop acting like we don't know who you are.. snooper2 Mar 2012 #15

Who is "we" and what in the world is this post and your previous post about? Better Believe It Mar 2012 #17

You and your posse, you got to be messin' with me.. snooper2 Mar 2012 #19

I don't recall ever seeing that video much less posting it. Better Believe It Mar 2012 #28

You laughed at a museum piece being destroyed? Really? MineralMan Mar 2012 #2

Posts like this one are why we need the unrec to return. FSogol Mar 2012 #13

Unrec would be the least of it for me. MineralMan Mar 2012 #32

Consider the source. UnrepentantLiberal Mar 2012 #37

That's an old restored Navy attack plane. El Supremo Mar 2012 #3

Well, that's a Navy attack plane, the A-4, so no worries for you! MADem Mar 2012 #4

I'm sure you did sharp_stick Mar 2012 #5

Awwwww! A boy toy bites the dust. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2012 #6

"I laughed my ass off. " Wait Wut Mar 2012 #7

I wasn't being literal. Better Believe It Mar 2012 #9

A lot of time and work went into getting that Navy jet ready for static display MrScorpio Mar 2012 #8

no kidding SunsetDreams Mar 2012 #11

And, money. Sacred Cows are expensive. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2012 #12

A great history. The plane helped to stop Vietnamese communist pinkos from invading the US of A. Better Believe It Mar 2012 #14

Well, I guess that you don't understand MrScorpio Mar 2012 #16

"some things transcend politics" You're right. Like war planes used against the Vietnamese people Better Believe It Mar 2012 #18

You are aware that Vietnam wasn't the only place that such planes had served MrScorpio Mar 2012 #20

Were they also used in Cambodia and in Latin America? Warplanes are not persons. Better Believe It Mar 2012 #22

Honor a gun or a knife? Sure, why not? Johnny Rico Mar 2012 #29

What weapons are you honoring that have been used against the people of Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan? Better Believe It Mar 2012 #33

Ask and ye shall receive: Johnny Rico Mar 2012 #34

I take it you supported the war against Vietnam and also support the war in Afghanistan. Better Believe It Mar 2012 #38

Vietnam? I was too busy trying to convice my Mom to buy more Captain Crunch at the time, Johnny Rico Mar 2012 #42

"I do think opposing the Soviet Union and its satellite countries was proper" Better Believe It Mar 2012 #44

Finding humor in the destruction of this plane is pathetic. Johnny Rico Mar 2012 #21

It's just a warplane that was used by Nixon against the Vietnamese people and no one was hurt. Better Believe It Mar 2012 #23

Here's a rather more informative video. Watch and learn. Johnny Rico Mar 2012 #26

Thanks. I watched and learned. This warplane can "deliver napalm with devastating accuracy" Better Believe It Mar 2012 #27

I said it was informative, not humorous. Johnny Rico Mar 2012 #30

Don't expect better. hobbit709 Mar 2012 #24

Getting upset over a piece of machinery is...pathetic. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2012 #31

More semantics from our resident... ellisonz Mar 2012 #36

I'm thinking the same thing... LanternWaste Mar 2012 #41

Unrec...nt SidDithers Mar 2012 #25

I don't understand how it made so much noise JVS Mar 2012 #35

That was the crane experiencing a serious malfunction. EnviroBat Mar 2012 #40

The crane's outrigger failed. lumberjack_jeff Mar 2012 #43

Har dee har har. Robb Mar 2012 #39

snooper2

(30,151 posts)

1. We are still waiting for that new record..

Reply to Better Believe It (Original post)

Tue Mar 6, 2012, 05:11 PM

Mar 2012

I'll pimp your last one for you since you continue to let us down on the new one

Better Believe It

(18,630 posts)

10. I have no idea about what you are writing about.

Reply to snooper2 (Reply #1)

Tue Mar 6, 2012, 05:28 PM

Mar 2012

snooper2

(30,151 posts)

15. Stop acting like we don't know who you are..

Reply to Better Believe It (Reply #10)

Tue Mar 6, 2012, 05:42 PM

Mar 2012

Better Believe It

(18,630 posts)

17. Who is "we" and what in the world is this post and your previous post about?

Reply to snooper2 (Reply #15)

Tue Mar 6, 2012, 05:48 PM

Mar 2012

Do you have a comment on the funny video?

snooper2

(30,151 posts)

19. You and your posse, you got to be messin' with me..

Reply to Better Believe It (Reply #17)

Tue Mar 6, 2012, 05:54 PM

Mar 2012

You can't be that dense..

You dropped this back in 09' and then you went all BBI (great track) in 10'. You having selective memory with me or what!

&feature=related

Better Believe It

(18,630 posts)

28. I don't recall ever seeing that video much less posting it.

Reply to snooper2 (Reply #19)

Tue Mar 6, 2012, 06:53 PM

Mar 2012

Perhaps you can provide some links and more information.

It seems you're confusing me with someone else.

MineralMan

(146,324 posts)

2. You laughed at a museum piece being destroyed? Really?

Reply to Better Believe It (Original post)

Tue Mar 6, 2012, 05:16 PM

Mar 2012

That says a great deal, I think, and confirms some opinions I hold.

FSogol

(45,508 posts)

13. Posts like this one are why we need the unrec to return.

Reply to MineralMan (Reply #2)

Tue Mar 6, 2012, 05:33 PM

Mar 2012

Today on one of my jobs, they installed three 50,000 underground storage tanks. One mistake with the cranes and a lot of jobs and cash would be on hold. Hardly a laughing matter.

MineralMan

(146,324 posts)

32. Unrec would be the least of it for me.

Reply to FSogol (Reply #13)

Tue Mar 6, 2012, 09:18 PM

Mar 2012

The post is simply toxic and irresponsible, IMO. I consider it to be goading people, and don't like it one bit. However, I know that there's no recourse for this kind of crap.

UnrepentantLiberal

(11,700 posts)

37. Consider the source.

Reply to MineralMan (Reply #32)

Wed Mar 7, 2012, 06:11 AM

Mar 2012

http://www.democraticunderground.com/124013092

El Supremo

(20,365 posts)

3. That's an old restored Navy attack plane.

Reply to Better Believe It (Original post)

Tue Mar 6, 2012, 05:18 PM

Mar 2012

An A-4 Skyhawk. The same type that McCain flew in Vietnam. It was going up on a display pedestal.

MADem

(135,425 posts)

4. Well, that's a Navy attack plane, the A-4, so no worries for you!

Reply to Better Believe It (Original post)

Tue Mar 6, 2012, 05:19 PM

Mar 2012

I winced. It's just a static display, it can be patched up, but still....

sharp_stick

(14,400 posts)

5. I'm sure you did

Reply to Better Believe It (Original post)

Tue Mar 6, 2012, 05:20 PM

Mar 2012

no surprises in yet another waste of time post.

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)

6. Awwwww! A boy toy bites the dust.

Reply to Better Believe It (Original post)

Tue Mar 6, 2012, 05:20 PM

Mar 2012

Wait Wut

(8,492 posts)

7. "I laughed my ass off. "

Reply to Better Believe It (Original post)

Tue Mar 6, 2012, 05:22 PM

Mar 2012

You have an unusual sense of humor.

Better Believe It

(18,630 posts)

9. I wasn't being literal.

Reply to Wait Wut (Reply #7)

Tue Mar 6, 2012, 05:25 PM

Mar 2012

MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)

8. A lot of time and work went into getting that Navy jet ready for static display

Reply to Better Believe It (Original post)

Tue Mar 6, 2012, 05:25 PM

Mar 2012

Many times, such planes are chosen because of their significant historical importance.

Static display is a badge of honor in service to our country.

There's nothing funny about that incident at all.

SunsetDreams

(8,571 posts)

11. no kidding

Reply to MrScorpio (Reply #8)

Tue Mar 6, 2012, 05:29 PM

Mar 2012

Nothing funny about it at all.

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)

12. And, money. Sacred Cows are expensive.

Reply to MrScorpio (Reply #8)

Tue Mar 6, 2012, 05:29 PM

Mar 2012

Better Believe It

(18,630 posts)

14. A great history. The plane helped to stop Vietnamese communist pinkos from invading the US of A.

Reply to MrScorpio (Reply #8)

Tue Mar 6, 2012, 05:39 PM

Mar 2012

But it just couldn't stop the Vietnamese from taking over Vietnam but it helped to delay that outcome.

So the plane deserves a whole lot of honoring.

Perhaps it could be placed on a pedastal in front of the Pentagon as a reminder of wars conducted for democracy and the American way .... along with other military aircraft used in the Iraq and Afghanistan wars and a nice drone used in Pakistan.

MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)

16. Well, I guess that you don't understand

Reply to Better Believe It (Reply #14)

Tue Mar 6, 2012, 05:47 PM

Mar 2012

That some things transcend politics

Better Believe It

(18,630 posts)

18. "some things transcend politics" You're right. Like war planes used against the Vietnamese people

Reply to MrScorpio (Reply #16)

Tue Mar 6, 2012, 05:50 PM

Mar 2012

in an effort to stop them from taking over their country.

MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)

20. You are aware that Vietnam wasn't the only place that such planes had served

Reply to Better Believe It (Reply #18)

Tue Mar 6, 2012, 05:59 PM

Mar 2012

The Cold War was happening in a lot of different places and such jets were deployed in other places around the world as well.

I'm not going to assume to compare the geo-politics of today against what they were then…

The mere fact that Vietnam was war that shouldn't have been waged by the politicians of this country does not vacate the honor of service in that time.

Better Believe It

(18,630 posts)

22. Were they also used in Cambodia and in Latin America? Warplanes are not persons.

Reply to MrScorpio (Reply #20)

Tue Mar 6, 2012, 06:19 PM

Mar 2012

And that warplane did not serve me nor the interests of the American people in Vietnam.

Warplanes are not persons, to be honored for their "service" anymore than corporations are persons.

It one can honor a warplane I suppose we can also honor a gun, a knife or container of napalm used in warfare.

And why not?

Johnny Rico

(1,438 posts)

29. Honor a gun or a knife? Sure, why not?

Reply to Better Believe It (Reply #22)

Tue Mar 6, 2012, 07:26 PM

Mar 2012

Now I'll grant you I couldn't find a commemorative container of napalm...

Better Believe It

(18,630 posts)

33. What weapons are you honoring that have been used against the people of Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan?

Reply to Johnny Rico (Reply #29)

Tue Mar 6, 2012, 10:57 PM

Mar 2012

I assume if you could find a commenorative container of napalm you would also be honoring it.

"I love the smell of napalm in the morning"

Johnny Rico

(1,438 posts)

34. Ask and ye shall receive:

Reply to Better Believe It (Reply #33)

Wed Mar 7, 2012, 12:37 AM

Mar 2012

What weapons are you honoring that have been used against the people of Vietnam,

Iraq,

Afghanistan?

I assume if you could find a commenorative container of napalm you would also be honoring it.

Not much of a market for it. Go figure.

Better Believe It

(18,630 posts)

38. I take it you supported the war against Vietnam and also support the war in Afghanistan.

Reply to Johnny Rico (Reply #34)

Wed Mar 7, 2012, 10:16 AM

Mar 2012

Is that correct?

Johnny Rico

(1,438 posts)

42. Vietnam? I was too busy trying to convice my Mom to buy more Captain Crunch at the time,

Reply to Better Believe It (Reply #38)

Wed Mar 7, 2012, 11:39 AM

Mar 2012

given my age. In retrospect, I do think opposing the Soviet Union and its satellite countries was proper during the Cold War.

As for Afghanistan, I support the policies of our President in this regard.

In any case, I certainly support our troops who have fought in all of our conflicts. One ancillary way that we do this is to showcase the equipment used in these wars in monuments and museums, which brings us back to your OP.

Which is why seeing an A-4 strike aircraft being destroyed isn't particularly funny.

And by the by, the jet is this video is a Navy strike aircraft, not an Air Force fighter.

Better Believe It

(18,630 posts)

44. "I do think opposing the Soviet Union and its satellite countries was proper"

Reply to Johnny Rico (Reply #42)

Wed Mar 7, 2012, 12:43 PM

Mar 2012

And you think that North Vietnam was a "satellite" nation run by the Soviet Union?

If you believe that old lying cold war propaganda directed against Vietnamese independence fighters, you really need to read some serious material written by progressives and not just "ant-communist cold warriors" on the subject.

Johnny Rico

(1,438 posts)

21. Finding humor in the destruction of this plane is pathetic.

Reply to Better Believe It (Original post)

Tue Mar 6, 2012, 06:12 PM

Mar 2012

Better Believe It

(18,630 posts)

23. It's just a warplane that was used by Nixon against the Vietnamese people and no one was hurt.

Reply to Johnny Rico (Reply #21)

Tue Mar 6, 2012, 06:23 PM

Mar 2012

So I don't really understand the problem.

It was one of the funniest videos I've ever seen!

Johnny Rico

(1,438 posts)

26. Here's a rather more informative video. Watch and learn.

Reply to Better Believe It (Reply #23)

Tue Mar 6, 2012, 06:30 PM

Mar 2012

Better Believe It

(18,630 posts)

27. Thanks. I watched and learned. This warplane can "deliver napalm with devastating accuracy"

Reply to Johnny Rico (Reply #26)

Tue Mar 6, 2012, 06:50 PM

Mar 2012

Oh that's so nice to know.

So how many Vietnamese were burned to death in napalmed villages as a result of this warplanes "good weapons delivery systems"?

I bet more than a few Vietnamese who were attacked by this plane would really enjoy the video.

You think they might laugh a bit?

Johnny Rico

(1,438 posts)

30. I said it was informative, not humorous.

Reply to Better Believe It (Reply #27)

Tue Mar 6, 2012, 07:28 PM

Mar 2012

Oh that's so nice to know.

Knowledge is a good thing.

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)

24. Don't expect better.

Reply to Johnny Rico (Reply #21)

Tue Mar 6, 2012, 06:24 PM

Mar 2012

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)

31. Getting upset over a piece of machinery is...pathetic.

Reply to Johnny Rico (Reply #21)

Tue Mar 6, 2012, 07:28 PM

Mar 2012

Especially considering what that piece of machinery was used for.

ellisonz

(27,711 posts)

36. More semantics from our resident...

Reply to Tierra_y_Libertad (Reply #31)

Wed Mar 7, 2012, 06:01 AM

Mar 2012

...war pornographer and gun pusher (if you don't appreciate them, there's something wrong with you ):

"Naval Airpower" - http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002353815
"Honor" - http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002359692

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)

41. I'm thinking the same thing...

Reply to Tierra_y_Libertad (Reply #31)

Wed Mar 7, 2012, 10:55 AM

Mar 2012

I'm thinking the same thing...

I guess in 40 years, someone will complain when a non-functioning, wholly symbolic piece of an American bunker-buster or white phosphorus grenade is "damaged" and may no longer be "appreciated"

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)

25. Unrec...nt

Reply to Better Believe It (Original post)

Tue Mar 6, 2012, 06:27 PM

Mar 2012

Sid

JVS

(61,935 posts)

35. I don't understand how it made so much noise

Reply to Better Believe It (Original post)

Wed Mar 7, 2012, 12:44 AM

Mar 2012

EnviroBat

(5,290 posts)

40. That was the crane experiencing a serious malfunction.

Reply to JVS (Reply #35)

Wed Mar 7, 2012, 10:47 AM

Mar 2012

The plane weighs close to 30,000 lb. That crane was not sufficient for the job and rigged completely wrong. I'm sure someone lost their job over this one...

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)

43. The crane's outrigger failed.

Reply to JVS (Reply #35)

Wed Mar 7, 2012, 12:07 PM

Mar 2012

Too much weight at too great a distance. All to avoid putting tire tracks on some general's lawn.

Robb

(39,665 posts)

39. Har dee har har.

Reply to Better Believe It (Original post)

Wed Mar 7, 2012, 10:45 AM

Mar 2012

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