We are telling them to stop watching us and she hears.

Now we get the soft sell: Everyone else is doing it.

Personally I'm in favor of 24/7 spying. Let's start with all government people and lets make all the info available like a Facebook page. Proceed, Hillary.

What's good for us geese is good for the gander. Lead us on, HC, and get Bill on the train.

Many here argued that Obama needed to dump all Bush people from national security and foreign policy in 2009 -- even though the norm is to keep some relatively high level people for awhile from the previous administration. The argument was that this would help with transition. I admit that I was NOT one who saw the dangers in keeping any people with decision making roles.

I was wrong. I assumed that the highest level people would be Obama people and there would be reviews to assess any need to change. Apparently, this was either not done - which is horrifying - or Obama administration people did look at what was done and saw no reason to change it and if Obama is being honest neglected to tell him the scope of the spying.

However, late is always better than never - this needs to be done. An unfortunate impact is that Obama deserves some of the blame - even if only for negligence or not putting people in place that would at least consider that he needed to sign off on this continuing. A second problem is that had a review been done in 2009, they could just have quietly made the change -- and would have been well positioned to say that this ended at the beginning of their watch. Now there is the question of how much of the change has to be public.

When I first heard the Merkel story with the 2006 date I thought we would hear that it was in the past and it had been wrong. Obviously, not hearing that means it continued.

It is absolutely wrong to tap Merkel or any leader's phone (as well as many lower level people). I am glad Clinton is calling for this to be looked at -- but there is the question of where was she in 2009? As SoS, did she know this was happening? Did she speak to Obama about it?

"It is absolutely wrong to tap Merkel or any leader's phone (as well as many lower level people). I am glad Clinton is calling for this to be looked at -- but there is the question of where was she in 2009? As SoS, did she know this was happening? Did she speak to Obama about it? "

...because we're entering the pre-campaign phase. Can you say "posturing"?

It's going to be interesting. LOL!

Joining the anti-spying network is becoming allies with all that is bad. Heard it right here on DU, I did. <gawd>

I don't blame Obama. He adopted this mess, and the moles sure as hell have not told him the truth about all the spying they do. He does need to clean house. And guess what? He can do it now. Now that all this bad press is out and even folks like you are perturbed.

Hillary would say nothing if there was not a huge groundswell.

They bugged her phone. No one is safe. She knows.

by the US, China, Israel, Germany, Russia and others.