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Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 07:49 AM Oct 2013

Republicans Whipping our Asses 69% to 31% Swing State Governorships

Last edited Sun Oct 27, 2013, 10:39 AM - Edit history (3)

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Swing State Governorships - Republicans hold 69% of them now (As defined by Wikipedia)

Democrats

New Hampshire - Gov. Maggie Hassan - Latest Approval Rating 51% (PPP) (Election: 11/4/14)
Colorado - Gov. John Hickenlooper - Latest Approval Rating 48% (Quinnipiac) (Election: 11/4/14)
Minnesota - Gov. Mark Dayton - Latest Approval Rating 47% (Survey USA) (Election: 11/4/14)
Virginia - Gov-Elect* Terry McAullife (Election:11/5/13)

Republicans

IN RIPE FOR PICKING ORDER

Pennsylvania - Tom Corbett - Latest -"Deserves Reelection" poll) 26% (Harper Polling) (Election:11/4/14)
Arizona - Jan Brewer - Latest Approval Rating 31% (Behavioral Research Center) (Election: 11/4/14)
Ohio - Gov. John Kasich - Latest Approval Rating 42% (PPP) (Election: 11/4/14)
Florida - Gov. Rick Scott - Latest Approval Rating 43% (PPP) (Election: 11/4/14)
Wisconsin - Scott Walker - Latest Approval Rating 48% (PPP) (Election: 11/4/14)
Iowa - Terry Branstad - Latest Approval Rating 54% (DeMoines Register) (Election: 11/4/14)
New Mexico - Susana Martinez - Latest Approval Rating 66% (KOB Eyewitness News) (Election 11/4/14)
Nevada - Brian Sandoval - Latest Approval Rating 58% (PPP) (Election: 11/4/14)
North Carolina - Pat McCrory - Latest Approval Rating 35% (PPP) (Election: 11/8/16)
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ON EDIT: OTHER BRIGHT LIGHTS

Michigan - Republican Governor Rick Snyder - 38% Approval - PPP (Election: 11/4/14)
Maine - Republican Governor Paul Le Page - 35% Approval - PPP (Election: 11/4/14) [font color=black]


ON A SIMILAR NOTE, WHY IS THIS MAN, HOWARD DEAN, NOT STILL RUNNING OUR PARTY ?????

Harvard Political Review: As Chairman of the DNC, you were credited with helping to elect a Democratic majority in the House. How would you do that in 2014?

Howard Dean: And the Senate, just to be modest.

You would have to renew the 50 state strategy, first of all. Second, the campaign should really be starting right now, identifying Republicans who are way outside the mainstream.

The reason we hold the Senate today is that over the last two election cycles the Republicans have nominated people who are just wholly unfit for office in key races. We should make a case that a number of people in the Republican majority are wholly unfit for office, and we should really talk about their record.

The 50 state strategy was designed for the long term, not the short term. Because it was very successful—and because we have a Democratic President, who tend to view the DNC as part of their reelection apparatus—the strategy has gone by the wayside. It’s a mistake to abandon long-term electoral strategy.

HPR: What do you see as the role of Organizing for Action in all of that?

HD: It’s well intended, but President Obama didn’t get elected because of the issues. He got elected because he represents a new generation. They tried this four years ago, and it didn’t particularly work then and it’s not going to work now. You can’t mobilize all these young people who were mobilized because Barack Obama is Barack Obama—not because he stood for this or that or the other thing.



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http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/maggie-hassan/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/20/john-kasich-approval-rating_n_3784797.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/02/charlie-crist-rick-scott-poll_n_4031808.html
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20130929/NEWS09/309290082/
http://kjzz.org/content/3616/gov-jan-brewers-approval-ratings-drop-31-percent
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/pat-mccrory/
http://www.kob.com/article/stories/S3039990.shtml?cat=500
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http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/paul-lepage/
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Republicans Whipping our Asses 69% to 31% Swing State Governorships (Original Post) Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2013 OP
So far Mary Fallin in Oklahoma is running unopposed. madokie Oct 2013 #1
Replace Sebelius with Dean. Skidmore Oct 2013 #2
Hadn't thought about that but you are 100% correct !! I know there's Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2013 #4
Ya think? You are soooo right! mountain grammy Oct 2013 #35
He was my first choice for that appointment to Skidmore Oct 2013 #39
He sure does. mountain grammy Oct 2013 #42
KS gubernatorial is apparently a swing now too Recursion Oct 2013 #3
Cool ! Like Dean says - concentrate on the biggest nutcases. To me - it's so much Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2013 #5
Our governor in IL has a 28% approval rating and he's a dem. mucifer Oct 2013 #6
And someone's got to step up by the December filing date ! Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2013 #8
Snyder (MI) should be on the "ripe for picking" list too Motown_Johnny Oct 2013 #7
This all sounds good today tiredtoo Oct 2013 #10
That's great. Maybe I'll look up all the other races too. Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2013 #11
Pump Dean. Dump Wasserman-Schultz. ancianita Oct 2013 #9
Yes...loyal dem - but not much of an out-of-the-box type thinker. Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2013 #12
You are correct about Dean - TBF Oct 2013 #13
If Wendy wins, she IS the Democratic Party in Texas. See my #47. Eleanors38 Oct 2013 #48
Too true! BlueMTexpat Oct 2013 #14
thanks for getting me up to speed. It would be nice if Sibelius quit on her Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2013 #17
Right now, Dean is working his utmost through DFA BlueMTexpat Oct 2013 #18
There you go...Dean has already endorsed Hillary !! Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2013 #29
My thoughts are that Dean sincerely believes that BlueMTexpat Oct 2013 #55
I think the DINOs would definitely fall in line with a progressive prez - but ONLY if Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2013 #58
BlueMTexpat your point is true in my experience... KoKo Oct 2013 #50
Keep it Going! KoKo Oct 2013 #54
Emanuel, now mayor of Chicago a corporatist dem if ever there was one -- I can't stand him. whathehell Oct 2013 #21
He is SO right about the ACA system approach Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2013 #25
Yes, he is. Then again, whathehell Oct 2013 #31
Same here. BlueMTexpat Oct 2013 #56
Yep.. whathehell Oct 2013 #57
And thanks for keeping your eye on the ball - TBF Oct 2013 #15
He yelled that one time. That's why he was never president. Right? n/t Old Union Guy Oct 2013 #16
There was more than a bit of sabotage there -- He yelled over a very noisy crowed, but, when the whathehell Oct 2013 #23
I blame Wolf Blitzer. PADemD Oct 2013 #24
Probably because he is the most milquetoast creature alive. I swear if Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2013 #26
Bring back Howard Dean. zeemike Oct 2013 #19
IMO, the "50 state strategy" of Dr. Deans dotymed Oct 2013 #20
Disclaimer: did not, whatsoever, mean to imply swing states all that matter Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2013 #27
No Laura that is not how I interpreted your OP. dotymed Oct 2013 #37
I should have known someone astute would recognize my oranges and apples. haha. nt Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2013 #60
Brewer, in Arizona, ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2013 #22
I think they left out Paul LiarPage from the State of Maine..... 4bucksagallon Oct 2013 #28
That's great, when I get the time I will add the other states ripe for Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2013 #30
I think the DNC views the 50 state strategy as superfuous, even antagonistic, to Eleanors38 Oct 2013 #47
You nailed it - TBF Oct 2013 #51
What is done on "behalf" of labor is being done by labor itself... Eleanors38 Oct 2013 #62
Excellent post. Thanks. k&r n/t Laelth Oct 2013 #32
k&r... spanone Oct 2013 #33
Hubby is registered repub to vote in primaries and we got a call from woodsprite Oct 2013 #34
what state? Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2013 #36
We're in Delaware. woodsprite Oct 2013 #53
BTW - One thing we've got going for us is the brainwashing on the right. My FIL Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2013 #40
I think pRick Scott is on his way out, he is not well liked by anyone down here! Thucydides Oct 2013 #38
HAHA love the name. Yes, saw where Charlie Crist beats him ? Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2013 #41
Just call 'em like I see 'em. Thucydides Oct 2013 #43
I was stunned that PPP had Scott's approval > 40% OmahaBlueDog Oct 2013 #45
I think the poll is a little skewed simply because no one has declared yet. Thucydides Oct 2013 #49
As I mentioned in a thread a few weeks back, I have a different task for Dr. Dean OmahaBlueDog Oct 2013 #44
And ! They control statewide elections where they are gearing up to suppress the local Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2013 #59
mccrory? ellennelle Oct 2013 #46
only because it's not until 2016. Right? Had a hard time trying Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2013 #61
Unless the GOP finds a more reasonable (LOL) candidate for Colorado gov meadowlark5 Oct 2013 #52

madokie

(51,076 posts)
1. So far Mary Fallin in Oklahoma is running unopposed.
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 07:59 AM
Oct 2013

Yes she sucks big time. Initiated a big ass tax cut for the rich upon her arrival and now is cutting services because of revenue shortfalls. A real b if ever there is one.


 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
4. Hadn't thought about that but you are 100% correct !! I know there's
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 08:11 AM
Oct 2013

some kind of bad blood between Obama and Dean, right?? I have heard that before but never researched the details. Is he just too much of an outsider with too much of a super brain?

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
39. He was my first choice for that appointment to
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 10:27 AM
Oct 2013

begin with in 2008. We would have gone far with healthcare more quickly too. I really was upset when we ended up with one of the Emanuel brothers playing a key role too. Dr. Dean had a much greater grasp of policy development and implementation.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
3. KS gubernatorial is apparently a swing now too
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 08:11 AM
Oct 2013
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3929576

If we can even limit GOP advances in an off-Presidential year, that's a good thing. If we can actually make gains, that's pretty much unprecedented, and awesome.

Look to VA. McAuliffe is killing it right now (not to temp the wrath of the whatever from high atop the thing), and VA being an off-off-year is usually something of a bellweather.

Hope, brethren and sistren.
 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
5. Cool ! Like Dean says - concentrate on the biggest nutcases. To me - it's so much
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 08:14 AM
Oct 2013

about fair elections. If Bush and Harris hadn't been in charge in Florida...........

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
8. And someone's got to step up by the December filing date !
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 08:20 AM
Oct 2013
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2013/09/17/how-pat-quinn-is-surviving-against-the-odds-in-illinois/

Gone from the picture is Bill Daley, who abruptly ended his primary challenge against Quinn Tuesday. The former White House chief of staff and brother and son of two former Chicago mayors, Daley said that he ”just decided this is not [the] life for me for the next five to nine years.”

His decision cleared the primary slate for Quinn, barring a new entrant who would face a fairly quick turnaround with a December filing deadline and a March primary looming.
 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
7. Snyder (MI) should be on the "ripe for picking" list too
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 08:19 AM
Oct 2013

This is from December 2012, but unions are still pissed and people here still don't support this change. I think we can lose this loser in 2014.




http://www.freep.com/article/20121218/NEWS15/121218032/Gov-Rick-Snyder-s-approval-rating-drops-sharply-Democratic-polling-firm-says

^snip^


LANSING -- A poll by the Democratic polling firm Public Policy Polling finds support for Gov. Rick Snyder has plummeted since he changed his position on right-to-work legislation Dec. 6 and backed its fast-track approval in the lame-duck Michigan Legislature.

The poll, released Tuesday, found 38% of Michigan voters approve of Snyder and 56% disapprove, PPP said.

That marks a significant drop from PPP’s last poll on Snyder, the weekend before the Nov. 6 election, when 47% of voters surveyed approved of Snyder and 37% disapproved.

“There’s not much doubt that it’s the right-to-work law and his embrace of other actions by the Republican Legislature that are driving this precipitous drop in Snyder’s popularity,” the polling firm said.



Edit to add:

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2013/06/schauer-leads-snyder-by-4-points.html#more

^snip^


June 04, 2013

Schauer leads Snyder by 4 points


Raleigh, N.C.- PPP's first poll of the Michigan Gubernatorial race since Mark Schauer's official entry finds the Democrat leading incumbent Rick Snyder 42/38. PPP's polling of this match up over the last six months has been very consistent- in March Schauer also led Snyder by 4 points and in December he had a 5 point advantage.

Schauer's initial lead has a lot more to do with Snyder than it does with himself. Even after his official candidacy announcement, he has just 38% statewide name recognition. But Snyder continues to be one of the most unpopular Governors in the country with only 40% of voters approving of him to 52% who disapprove. He's at 40/51 with independents and Democrats (78% disapproval) dislike him a good deal more than Republicans (68% approval) like him.

Snyder's role in the passage of right to work legislation continues to be a big problem for him. Just 40% of voters support that law to 50% who oppose it, numbers that have not seen any improvement since the initial furor after it passed in December. Snyder continues to have issues with his brand, as only 34% of voters now consider him to be 'one tough nerd' to 45% who don't.

“Rick Snyder’s numbers have been in a holding pattern since December,” said Dean Debnam, President of Public Policy Polling. “His approval numbers continue to be poor and he continues to lag behind his potential opposition for next year.”

tiredtoo

(2,949 posts)
10. This all sounds good today
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 08:29 AM
Oct 2013

But it is a long way off to next election. Snyder and cronies have the money and skill to repair his image. We must continue in our efforts to paint him as the crook and liar he really is.

ancianita

(36,109 posts)
9. Pump Dean. Dump Wasserman-Schultz.
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 08:21 AM
Oct 2013

I love Debbie but she's a drag on the fight to unseat Republicans. She's become too much an anti-progressive, in-house rule enforcer and not enough a strategist for defeating opposition incumbents.

TBF

(32,071 posts)
13. You are correct about Dean -
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 08:36 AM
Oct 2013

we need him back.

Texas is not considered a swing state of course, but it may be soon. We are going to work hard with Wendy Davis - who knows we might get an upset (she's popular with national name recognition running against a weak candidate - Greg Abbott).

BlueMTexpat

(15,370 posts)
14. Too true!
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 08:37 AM
Oct 2013

This:

The 50 state strategy was designed for the long term, not the short term. Because it was very successful—and because we have a Democratic President, who tend to view the DNC as part of their reelection apparatus—the strategy has gone by the wayside. It’s a mistake to abandon long-term electoral strategy.


Dean had to fight Rahm Emanuel tooth and nail all the way on this. Emanuel took his vengeance by persuading Prez O not to name Dean as HHS Sec'y, which is the job that Dean specifically wanted. Prez O listened to Emanuel who argued that Dean was "too polarizing" - in spite of the enormous evidence of Dean's effectiveness at getting the electorate to understand anything he put his hand to. And Dean's passion was always for healthcare.

Thus, Prez O appointed Kain to the DNC - a decent guy, but not one to continue the 50 state strategy and things have languished at state and local levels since. More egregiously, he also followed Emanuel's advice in appointing Sebelius as HHS Sec'y, which is likely one of the main reasons why the public option - or expansion of Medicare to all - were never on the table.

These were probably my two biggest disappointments with Prez O's early days in office. Had he stiffened his - and other Dems' spines - right at the outset, we would quite likely not be in this current mess. Instead, he listened to Emanuel - one of his biggest career mistakes, IMO.

I am not alone in believing this.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
17. thanks for getting me up to speed. It would be nice if Sibelius quit on her
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 08:47 AM
Oct 2013

own accord and someone smart convinced him to put Dean in (if he still wants it)

BlueMTexpat

(15,370 posts)
18. Right now, Dean is working his utmost through DFA
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 08:59 AM
Oct 2013

to find, fund, nurture and elect liberal Dem candidates at state and local levels for the next electoral cycles. If the DNC would only watch, listen, learn and return to the 50 state strategy, that would help us all more than Dean as HHS Sec'y at this point.

Perhaps the next Dem President will show more wisdom than Prez O did and name him then. Or who knows, perhaps that President might even be Dean - although I sincerely doubt that he will run again.

In the meantime, check out DFA: http://www.democracyforamerica.com/

It is an organization that believes in voter education and empowerment.

BlueMTexpat

(15,370 posts)
55. My thoughts are that Dean sincerely believes that
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 03:48 AM
Oct 2013

Hillary is a strong Dem candidate for President in 2016, as frankly do I.

It's not necessarily that he believes that she is the most progressive candidate, because she is not that. But she has the organization, the name recognition, the backers, the smarts and the real experience at dealing with and in the battleground that is Washington today. And frankly, it's time for a woman President. Long past, IMO. The RW are terrified of a Hillary candidacy, believe me! That in itself is heartening.

My belief is that Dean - above all, a pragmatic individual - believes that with Hillary and her organization, DFA and organizations like it can concentrate on funding the local and state races, nurturing candidates who can effectively pull our center-right Dem party more to where it should be on the political spectrum.

After all, even if we had the ideal progressive candidate who could realistically win a Presidential election in 2016 (and I have no idea who that mythical creature might be - there are lots of names bandied about here whom we all like/prefer, but who would have no realistic chances in 2016 even if they could be convinced to run), that person still would be handicapped by too many DINOs in Congress, even if we succeeded in getting Dem majorities in both Houses (a BIG if that!), to get policies through Congress that would be any better than Hillary's.

I can understand the frustration of some here who grow impatient with the lack of a more progressive Dem agenda generally and, in many ways, share that frustration. But I have been around for a long time: there have been 13 different US Presidents during my lifetime. Other than FDR, few of the Dem Presidents were appreciated during their actual terms in office. Some, like Truman and Kennedy, achieved posthumous recognition for their accomplishments. Carter has only been truly appreciated in recent years. Bill Clinton and Obama might be the two since FDR who have received the most credit during their actual terms in office - and most DUers have been around to see what GOP crap both have had to deal with even to accomplish what they have.

Changing the political playing ground is not simply getting a progressive President elected and then relaxing. In the "old days," perhaps, but definitely not since 1980. It requires constant attention - especially to what's happening at the grassroots level and where and how corporate monies are being spent - and moving steadily, if slowly, forward. But NEVER EVER taking anything for granted .... Believe me, the RW GOP lies and finagling will never stop - they just get worse.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
58. I think the DINOs would definitely fall in line with a progressive prez - but ONLY if
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 08:47 AM
Oct 2013

we control the House and Senate. And, only if they didn't worry about reelection. Just like the Dems would did what was right when we had control and got ACA and then they lost their seats.

It seems to me that after observing the last year - the president has little power. Especially the way the republicans are completely blocking with zero compromise. I bet that even when Hillary becomes President - she will have the same problems Obama has

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
50. BlueMTexpat your point is true in my experience...
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 11:47 AM
Oct 2013

I've posted about the experience in NC where the Dean Activists (along with Kucinich activitsts) re-energized our Dem Party. The party didn't even have computerized lists of consistent Dem Voters or Donors to the party. Dean Activists volunteered and put together data base of those consistent voters and those who were donors to target for 2004 Election. We had a great group of young Dem Activists along with Middle and Older Voters who worked together organizing Precincts (which had been allowed to languish with little attention) and we had Meet Ups and those of us against the Iraq Invasion had demonstrations that went on before and after the Invasion with speakers from across the country (yes, even the now hated Cyndie Sheehan and other activists ) who energized us. We even had our own Progressive Dem Convention and voted on a platform to present to the our Dem Party for inclusion. We couldn't get Kerry elected but we were rolling and organizing and even managed to get the worse of the Computer/Diebold paperless trail voting machines out of our state. We had Opti-Scan ballots so that there would be a paper trail.

NC went Blue for Obama in 2008!

And, then it started to fall apart. Had no help from the Obama Activists to support the grassroots work we had done and no infusion of money to support our efforts. We had some scandal with our Governor and at the top of maninstream Dem Party which didn't help and neither did the John Edwards fiasco help but the activists were pretty much sidelined.

Obama lost NC in 2012 and the Republicans gerrymandered us into a Sweep of Repugs re-elected while we lost some of our best Dems in Congress. Our State Legislation is Republican for the first time in 150 years! We are fighting like hell to take it back...but the Dem Party has not being helped here from above. It's the Obama Party...and no grassroots support for anything else.

The help we are getting is from Foundations. And we are thankful for that because we are fighting against ALEC/KOCH Brothers and a Local Repug Business Cartel who have endless funds and the Fundamental Christians in their pockets.

If Howard Dean had stated Dem Chair...I don't believe this would have happened. His 50 State Strategy was a winner. But the Dem Party traditionalists wanted to focus on SWING STATES to put their money in. And, to promote the candidates they supported rather than grooming new voices from grassroots.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
21. Emanuel, now mayor of Chicago a corporatist dem if ever there was one -- I can't stand him.
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 09:15 AM
Oct 2013

I think he and PBO found Dean too progressive and that is unfortunate...Had Dean not

been sabotaged in 2004, had he won the presidency, we'd be a different country right now, IMO.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
25. He is SO right about the ACA system approach
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 09:35 AM
Oct 2013

"First of all, in fairness you've got to blame the Republicans for some of this because they delayed everything they possibly could, threw as many monkey wrenches into the process as they could, and there's some success here," Dean said.

Dean added that the 36 states that relied on the Department of Health and Human Services to operate the new insurance marketplaces -- as opposed to setting up their own state-run exchanges -- should have been split up into four or five different regions to prevent one consolidated source from crashing.

"And then put each of these regions out to bid, so you don't have one single contractor who, if they screw up, screws up the whole system, which is what's happened," Dean said.

States that opted to run their own insurance marketplaces, including New York, California and Kentucky, have been faring much better than states relying on HHS.


Dean argued that "because the Republican governors refused to accept exchanges,” the Obama administration had to resort to a single federal marketplace, resulting in the technical malfunctions that have been called "excruciatingly embarrassing” by former White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs.

Although Republicans may not have been directly responsible for the rollout’s technical fiasco, "they did slow the process down considerably and that time does make a difference in the website," Dean said.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
31. Yes, he is. Then again,
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 09:54 AM
Oct 2013

I'm kind of a Deaniac -- I think he's right (and has been) about most things.

He's also a fighter, not a wimp -- That in itself puts him head and shoulders above

most of our so called "democrats" these days, IMO.

BlueMTexpat

(15,370 posts)
56. Same here.
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 03:57 AM
Oct 2013

Rahm

Ironically, I believe that PBO was among the original "Dean Dozen" DFA candidates, i.e., supported by DFA for his US Senate race.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
57. Yep..
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 08:29 AM
Oct 2013

Sad to hear about PBO being among the "Dean Dozen". It seems they didn't "return the favor", as it were.

I think Obama fooled a lot of people -- I'd take Dr. Howard Dean over the pack of them.

TBF

(32,071 posts)
15. And thanks for keeping your eye on the ball -
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 08:37 AM
Oct 2013

the states still have enough power to hurt a lot of folks (kill programs etc). We should be focusing on this.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
23. There was more than a bit of sabotage there -- He yelled over a very noisy crowed, but, when the
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 09:22 AM
Oct 2013

tape was played -- and it was played over and over -- they mysteriously decided to DELETE all

the background noise -- uh huh -- so as to make him look crazy and "out of control".

No consensus on responsibility for this bit of "rat-fucking" -- some thought it was the

Kerry camp, but the corporate media, knowing Dean to be THE most progressive of all the candidates,

was undoubtedly happy to oblige.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
26. Probably because he is the most milquetoast creature alive. I swear if
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 09:37 AM
Oct 2013

his pants were on fire he wouldn't miss a beat

dotymed

(5,610 posts)
20. IMO, the "50 state strategy" of Dr. Deans
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 09:13 AM
Oct 2013

is a no-brainer if we want all of America to represented as the Progressives we truly are.

We must break-up the Southern red state block of obstructionists. This should not just be about "swing states."
That is a cop-out. It seems more like collusion between corporatists than the struggle to make America a majority represented nation.

I did not check, but I'd bet that the aforementioned republicans with high approval ratings, expanded their Medicaid roles in response to the ACA.

The vast majority of Americans want and desperately need health care. Universal health care is the preference, hopefully the ACA will help us reach that goal.

To go after "swing states" and neglect the other states suffering under neo-con rule is cruel and not a strategy that is helpful to our entire nation.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
27. Disclaimer: did not, whatsoever, mean to imply swing states all that matter
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 09:40 AM
Oct 2013

It just strikes me that just by the definition alone - that they could go either way - we should have closer to 50% of them. No?

It's funny that Dean preached taking control locally where the election process is run and it was the Republicans who listened

dotymed

(5,610 posts)
37. No Laura that is not how I interpreted your OP.
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 10:25 AM
Oct 2013

You stated that the 50 state strategy of Dr. Deans (and his successful chairmanship of the DNC should be reinstated) should be our continued strategy.

I totally agree. Thank you.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
22. Brewer, in Arizona, ...
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 09:20 AM
Oct 2013

is term limited and there is no republican with huge favorability that has announced, but neither has any Democrat. I'm hoping (former Attorney General) Terry Goddard gives it another shot.

I think he'd have a real shot, as Arizona (with its highly "AM-radio" influencible right, e.g., jake Flake has been officially been disclared a "rino&quot is beoming the exemplar for a teaparty/establishment republican blood bath.

A solid voter registration/GOTV effort and a good campaign could produce a Democratic Governor again.

4bucksagallon

(975 posts)
28. I think they left out Paul LiarPage from the State of Maine.....
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 09:43 AM
Oct 2013

Mr., born with my foot in my mouth, LePage is almost certain to get defeated, thankfully.

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
47. I think the DNC views the 50 state strategy as superfuous, even antagonistic, to
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 11:21 AM
Oct 2013

Its aim of being a non-threatening entity (since the Democrats are hardly a party) to corporate power. To have a 50-state base IS to define a Party, and the DNC CANNOT have that since it cannot control that.

The Democratic "Party" faces a far greater near-term split than the GOPer does. In the personage of the DNC, it has become a personalistic buraucracy, centered on corporate strategies effected at the national level; a shrinking pastiche of big-city voting blocs, and an aging "60s-era activist" vote. It has all these grand, wonderful and evolving demographics, but doesn't know what to do with them, because the DNC isn't and doesn't want to be a grass-roots party.

That is why Dean is where he is now.

Than you for engendering a constructive discussion.

TBF

(32,071 posts)
51. You nailed it -
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 12:29 PM
Oct 2013

We need to take over the DNC. They are very short-sighted and will not win Texas unless they can embrace labor. When they do they open it up for the Castro Bros. - I would've said Julian Castro was the party in TX until Wendy started speaking up. We've got a lot of potential here.

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
62. What is done on "behalf" of labor is being done by labor itself...
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 10:32 AM
Oct 2013

whether it is fast-food workers or underpaid (swindled) construction workers, both of whom have demonstrated in Austin. I don't expect to see the Democratic Party organizing on either group's behalf. A lot different atmosphere in "Weirdsville-line-dancing-to-Thriller-Austin" now than lefty Austin of 40 years (or even 20 yrs) ago. But things are stirring.

woodsprite

(11,916 posts)
34. Hubby is registered repub to vote in primaries and we got a call from
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 10:01 AM
Oct 2013

Faith and Freedom yesterday. They are targeting to get at least 37 state governorships flipped. They said that way, they could defeat Obamacare at the state level, despite the Supreme Court's ruling.

I would have stayed on the line to talk to a live person to ask to be removed from their list and give them my opinion, but my bruised ribs were hurting too bad.

woodsprite

(11,916 posts)
53. We're in Delaware.
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 01:10 PM
Oct 2013

I didn't hang on the line to listen to what states they were targeting. They we're asking for donations for their "cause". I'm assuming DE would be one since we trend Democrat for most elections. Our family is voting for a Green Party candidate for the first time for our Mayor in November.

I knew they wanted the states. I had never heard it put in the context that that was how they would circumvent the Supreme Court ruling on the ACA.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
40. BTW - One thing we've got going for us is the brainwashing on the right. My FIL
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 10:30 AM
Oct 2013

has literally blocked cnn and msnbc from his TV scroll so not a second of either gets aired.

During the shutdown period when there were all those polls showing how it hurt the GOP - I visited him. He said that things were great - that the GOP favorability was on the rise and they will be picking up tons of seats in the House

It is what Fox is pushing. I told him CBS, ABS, CNN, and MSNBC are saying something EXACTLY opposite...but he won't listen.

It is good - maybe they won't get out and work or donate to anyone.

 

Thucydides

(212 posts)
43. Just call 'em like I see 'em.
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 10:37 AM
Oct 2013

So far no one has declared, however the field looks pretty good. Charlie Crist, Bill Nelson and Alex Sink are the names being tossed around at this point. All are good choices.

OmahaBlueDog

(10,000 posts)
45. I was stunned that PPP had Scott's approval > 40%
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 10:47 AM
Oct 2013

IIRC, at one point, it was in the high 20s/low 30s.

I'd like to start seeing the party groom Alex Sink for Bill Nelson's Senate seat.

Crist, whatever his shortcomings are in terms of party loyalty, would be an improvement over Scott, and should be able to win.

 

Thucydides

(212 posts)
49. I think the poll is a little skewed simply because no one has declared yet.
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 11:31 AM
Oct 2013

I agree with your suggestion that Alex Sink be groomed for Nelsons seat, I never thought of that.

OmahaBlueDog

(10,000 posts)
44. As I mentioned in a thread a few weeks back, I have a different task for Dr. Dean
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 10:40 AM
Oct 2013

First, I take as a given that he will eventually replace either Leahy or Sanders in the Senate.

I want to name Dr. Dean "DNC Chair Emeritus", and give him one (and only one) task. Win back state legislatures for the Dems!

If we want to take back the house, we have to undo three decades of GOP gerrymandering. The only way to do that -- and make certain it stays done -- is to start winning state houses and state senates.

-they approve the redistricting plans
-they approve the state judges, who end up approving the plans

Also, state legislators create the backbone of future legislators at the federal level.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
59. And ! They control statewide elections where they are gearing up to suppress the local
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 09:54 AM
Oct 2013

voters with strict ID laws.

Although I think Dean would be a great senator - I think being a senator is pigeon-holing him too much. He is a big picture thinker/strategist. How about Harry Reid's job. :&gt

ellennelle

(614 posts)
46. mccrory?
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 10:47 AM
Oct 2013

just curious, but why was mccrory rank ordered at the bottom of that list when his approval ratings have dipped even lower than the number posted here?

in fact, his pseudo-stewardship has been so despised that there is very little chance kay hagan will lose her senate seat next year, tho it had been thought some months ago it would go easily red.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
61. only because it's not until 2016. Right? Had a hard time trying
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 10:06 AM
Oct 2013

to figure out when NC next governor election was. I actually found a list of people
who were running in 2014 - but then it said 2016 in other places.

meadowlark5

(2,795 posts)
52. Unless the GOP finds a more reasonable (LOL) candidate for Colorado gov
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 12:59 PM
Oct 2013

I don't think a republican can win. So far I've heard that lunatic Ken Buck is looking to run again. And Scott Gesler, secretary of state, who tried to purge thousands of voters right before the 2012 election. I don't think, and greatly hope, either one could get elected.

Andrew Romanoff is going to run for the dems but he might be to liberal for a lot of folks in this state.

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