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xchrom

(108,903 posts)
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 10:05 AM Oct 2013

Vermont Is Pushing Ahead With A Healthcare Plan That Goes Far Beyond Obamacare

http://www.businessinsider.com/vermont-is-pushing-ahead-with-a-healthcare-plan-that-goes-far-beyond-obamacare-2013-10

MONTPELIER, Vt. (AP) — As states open insurance marketplaces amid uncertainty about whether they're a solution for health care, Vermont is eyeing a bigger goal, one that more fully embraces a government-funded model.

The state has a planned 2017 launch of the nation's first universal health care system, a sort of modified Medicare-for-all that has long been a dream for many liberals.

The plan is especially ambitious in the current atmosphere surrounding health care in the United States. Republicans in Congress balk at the federal health overhaul years after it was signed into law. States are still negotiating their terms for implementing it. And some major employers have begun to drastically limit their offerings of employee health insurance, raising questions about the future of the industry altogether.

In such a setting, Vermont's plan looks more and more like an anomaly. It combines universal coverage with new cost controls in an effort to move away from a system in which the more procedures doctors and hospitals perform, the more they get paid, to one in which providers have a set budget to care for a set number of patients.

The result will be health care that's "a right and not a privilege," Gov. Peter Shumlin said.



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Vermont Is Pushing Ahead With A Healthcare Plan That Goes Far Beyond Obamacare (Original Post) xchrom Oct 2013 OP
I wish I could afford to live in VT..... Little Star Oct 2013 #1
My son is going to attend college in Vermont. FarPoint Oct 2013 #2
Lucky you getting a chef in your family, congrats!.... Little Star Oct 2013 #4
I am so thrilled about him going to Vermont... FarPoint Oct 2013 #11
NECI is very cool. and runs wonderful restaurants with unbelievably cheap prices cali Oct 2013 #15
I am thrilled to read this, great for these citizens and sets an example for the country. K&R Jefferson23 Oct 2013 #3
I think we will see more of this Andy823 Oct 2013 #5
k/r marmar Oct 2013 #6
Go going Vermont lovuian Oct 2013 #7
go Vermont ! nt steve2470 Oct 2013 #8
'cost controls' !? How shocking leftstreet Oct 2013 #9
they legislated that for hospitals a few years ago. It's already in effect cali Oct 2013 #16
can't be too hard to do... MisterP Oct 2013 #10
What a concept...cost controls AllyCat Oct 2013 #12
Wonderful. I hope it's contagious. n/t winter is coming Oct 2013 #13
Way to go, Vermont! mountain grammy Oct 2013 #14
One of the things I love about living in VT is searchingforlight Oct 2013 #17
Vermont is one of the most popular states for us Canucks to visit ConcernedCanuk Oct 2013 #18

FarPoint

(12,412 posts)
2. My son is going to attend college in Vermont.
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 10:28 AM
Oct 2013

He was accepted at New England Culinary Institute. He starts in late June 2014.

I am sooooooooooo glad he is going to an Earthbound, liberal state! In Ohio...you have to find the liberal click amongst the teabagger, christian fundies.

Little Star

(17,055 posts)
4. Lucky you getting a chef in your family, congrats!....
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 10:55 AM
Oct 2013

I bet he is going to love VT once he gets settled in and has a chance to explore.

FarPoint

(12,412 posts)
11. I am so thrilled about him going to Vermont...
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 08:21 PM
Oct 2013

Plus, we get to visit....He is brushing up on politics there....when he was 6, he helped support Howard Dean!

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
15. NECI is very cool. and runs wonderful restaurants with unbelievably cheap prices
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 09:36 AM
Oct 2013

yum. great bakery too.

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
5. I think we will see more of this
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 11:27 AM
Oct 2013

Obamacare really is a stepping stone to universal health care, and many blue states are on the right path to get us to that point.

I live in Washington state, just finished my enrollment Friday at the state website. While I had a few problems early on with the site, one was my own fault and when I finally got in contact with someone, took all day on their support line, the had it fixed for me in 3 days. The other problem was simply needing some questions asked and after calling two different clinics that had people trained to help get people enrolled, I finally got the information I needed to finish the enrollment, pay for the plan, and was accepted!

I know that the government site has a lot of problems, but as the president said, there are other ways to get enrolled. People need to make some calls, find out where to get help at local clinics, or other places that will help them get enrolled, just don't give up! This is going to work and it will only get better.

AllyCat

(16,195 posts)
12. What a concept...cost controls
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 09:32 AM
Oct 2013

I want to move from my bagger-run state to a real state like VT that cares for everyone, not just the rich.

 

ConcernedCanuk

(13,509 posts)
18. Vermont is one of the most popular states for us Canucks to visit
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 08:25 PM
Oct 2013

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at least those of us from Ontario and the other eastern provinces.

Beautiful state, just like our north - scenery galore.

And polite people too.

Maybe living so close to us Canucks they pay attention to our lifestyle, and know more about our single-payer plan than the more populous states.

ACA is only a bandaid on a broken system. As long as the insurance companies are involved, expect all sorts of glitches, and just plain dirty tricks.

Single payer (that's government funded and controlled healthcare) comes from taxes, and benefits are not related to a person's income, or lack of it.

The paperwork involved in ACA is going to bog it down, trying to decide who gets what benefits, and which insurance comanies are to be involved - it will never provide universal health care in the real(single-payer) sense.

In Canada, be it a millionaire or a homeless person with no income, the benefits are the same.

Yes, the rich can buy supplemental insurance for private rooms, expensive specialists of their choice from far away, - but even a low wage-earner can have a heart bypass, transplant, whatever and it has no effect on their finances other than lost income from absence at work.

Even then, from Welfare to Disability benefits, even the homeless are guaranteed an income of some sort, as well as the cost of their treatment(s) absorbed by our government (tax) funded healthcare.

GO VERMONT!

luv ya

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