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xchrom

(108,903 posts)
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 10:28 AM Oct 2013

CHART: Check Out How The Age At Which People First Get Married Is Soaring

http://www.businessinsider.com/chart-check-out-how-the-age-at-which-people-first-get-married-is-soaring-2013-10

Here's a fascinating chart that probably comports with what you're seeing in real life.

The age at which people are first getting married is soaring. (Via John Podhoretz).

The jump in the last decade is particularly notable.

There are various theories for why people are getting married later, but one notion has to do with cultural attitudes towards marriage, and the growing perception that marriage is a "capstone" of life achievements, rather than a cornerstone.



Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/chart-check-out-how-the-age-at-which-people-first-get-married-is-soaring-2013-10#ixzz2ivt4MBac
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CHART: Check Out How The Age At Which People First Get Married Is Soaring (Original Post) xchrom Oct 2013 OP
1950 must have been hell. Squinch Oct 2013 #1
People coming back from the war wanted a white picket fence ASAP Recursion Oct 2013 #11
Earlier is better. gulliver Oct 2013 #2
I disagree. LWolf Oct 2013 #4
You make some excellent points. gulliver Oct 2013 #9
Keep in mind the data here is only about marriage, not having kids. Gidney N Cloyd Oct 2013 #5
It's because young men have no money. n/t lumberjack_jeff Oct 2013 #3
It's because young women have no money. nt Zorra Oct 2013 #6
To be honest, I'm surprised that first marriages happened so late senseandsensibility Oct 2013 #7
It can be an indication of not be able to afford a family, especially pre-contraception muriel_volestrangler Oct 2013 #13
Premarital cohabitation is increasing FarCenter Oct 2013 #8
Nobody can afford to get married. Laelth Oct 2013 #10
We've built an anti-family economy. Orsino Oct 2013 #15
I didn't get married until I was 30 cliffordu Oct 2013 #12
Weird how much higher it was in 1890 than in 1950 treestar Oct 2013 #14
Note the difference between men and women in 1890. Gormy Cuss Oct 2013 #16
The gap between the men and women has narrowed treestar Oct 2013 #17

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
11. People coming back from the war wanted a white picket fence ASAP
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 01:55 PM
Oct 2013

And had a good economic position for marriage.

gulliver

(13,186 posts)
2. Earlier is better.
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 11:19 AM
Oct 2013

Your kids get to spend more time with their grandparents and great-grandparents, and you get to spend more time with your grandkids and great-grandkids down the road. Also, if you get married in your early twenties and have your kids fast, they are basically raised by the time you are in your early 40's. You still have some good years left for travel and activities.

My grandparents and parents had their kids young, and we had a close, fun family. My ex and I had our kids late, and I now think everyone missed out on a lot.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
4. I disagree.
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 11:34 AM
Oct 2013

I got married and had my first child at 17, my second child at 19.

I wasn't old enough, AND didn't have the background family experience, to know what a good marriage was, let alone how to choose someone to spend the rest of my life with. I was married, that first time, for ten years. Ten years of HELL. My kids and I suffered, and then we struggled together as a single-parent family.

I adore my adult sons, and love our time together. We are able to have a lot of fun, and spend a lot of time, together as adults. Maybe more than we would have. If I could do ANYTHING differently in my life, though, it would have been to finish my education and establish a stable life, married or not, BEFORE bringing kids into it. They deserved a more stable childhood. They were fortunate in that one of their parents, me, was hard-working, responsible, and there for them. They still deserved better.

I have 2 failed marriages behind me. I've come to the conclusion that marriage shouldn't be a goal; if one is able to find someone who will make a loving, reliable, trustworthy partner, that's great. A well-lived life should not, though, depend on that, and people who come out of dysfunctional families, who have never SEEN or experienced healthy relationships, are probably going to have a hard time having healthy relationships in their own lives.

My sons? Neither, as adults, are married. Both have loving SOs. One has a child from a previous relationship that he has full custody of and is raising himself. What is his greatest regret? That he didn't wait for a healthy relationship, that his child was grievously harmed by an abusive, dysfunctional biological mother.

gulliver

(13,186 posts)
9. You make some excellent points.
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 12:55 PM
Oct 2013

I agree with basically everything you are saying. I would try to combine the education and relationship maturity with as much overlap as possible with extended family. That increases your odds of getting good skills modeled. I had a lot of really awful emotional blind spots and skill deficiencies and probably still do. I could have used having a lot of other family members in my kids' lives to back me up.

But yes, I am completely in agreement with getting your education, establishing finances, and being in a healthy relationship first. I do wish that interpersonal effectiveness and raising children were given serious attention in the educational system. Those are utterly vital, and I think they don't come naturally in our current version of modern life. I had no idea what I didn't know. I assumed everything would just come to me. To a large extent it did, of course, just years after I really needed it.

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,842 posts)
5. Keep in mind the data here is only about marriage, not having kids.
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 11:39 AM
Oct 2013

Children born out of wedlock is running around 40%.

senseandsensibility

(17,077 posts)
7. To be honest, I'm surprised that first marriages happened so late
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 11:51 AM
Oct 2013

in 1890. My hubby and I were much younger than that when we married in the 1980's. But yeah, I get the larger point. The younger people I work with now in their late twenties, early thirties are not even thinking about marriage.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,322 posts)
13. It can be an indication of not be able to afford a family, especially pre-contraception
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 02:29 PM
Oct 2013

Without contraception, family planning largely consists of "don't live together, so you don't have sex very often". So if a lot of people needed to wait before they were secure enough in a job to raise a family, they did. A slight decrease up 1920, then an increase in 1930 and 1940, also mirrors economic confidence, as does the big drop in median age for 1950. After that, contraception starts taking effect, meaning the link between sex and children is no longer so strong, and couples don't wait for economic security before sex.

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
8. Premarital cohabitation is increasing
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 11:58 AM
Oct 2013
Forty-eight percent of women interviewed in 2006–2010 cohabited with a partner as a first union, compared with 34% of women in 1995. Between 1995 and 2006–2010, the percentage of women who cohabited as a first union increased for all Hispanic origin and race groups, except for Asian women. In 2006–2010, 70% of women with less than a high school diploma cohabited as a first union, compared with 47% of women with a bachelor’s degree or higher. First premarital cohabitations were longest for foreign-born Hispanic women (33 months) and shortest for white women (19 months). In 2006–2010, 40% of first premarital cohabitations among women transitioned to marriage by 3 years, 32% remained intact, and 27% dissolved. Nearly 20% of women experienced a pregnancy in the first year of their first premarital cohabitation.


http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nhsr/nhsr064.pdf

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
10. Nobody can afford to get married.
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 01:22 PM
Oct 2013

That's my simple answer. Other, more complex explanations may be available, but I think the declining standard of living of most Americans is the root cause of this phenomenon.

-Laelth

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
15. We've built an anti-family economy.
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 05:51 PM
Oct 2013

It's tough on married couples, and brutal on those with children.

cliffordu

(30,994 posts)
12. I didn't get married until I was 30
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 02:01 PM
Oct 2013

Took that long to find a woman who didn't have a sense of smell....

treestar

(82,383 posts)
14. Weird how much higher it was in 1890 than in 1950
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 03:50 PM
Oct 2013

IMO people see the divorce rate. Get married young and you will have a very high chance of divorce. May as well put it off to cut down on the lawyers' fees. This is a good thing.

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
16. Note the difference between men and women in 1890.
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 06:19 PM
Oct 2013

It was fairly common for men to wait until they were established, whether that be in a career, on land of their own for farming/ranching, or having settled and become citizens after immigration. Since women weren't expect to do those things before marriage, families were glad to have them betrothed by their late teens.

The post WWII average age drop for men is potentially related to the GI Bill with its educational and homeownership benefits for the throngs of returning vets and the better opportunities provided by the booming post-war economy.

It's also interesting to see how the women's average started climbing at a time when civil rights and women's rights were in the forefront.

I'd love to see a real analysis of it. I'm sure I'm missing other factors influencing the trends.


treestar

(82,383 posts)
17. The gap between the men and women has narrowed
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 06:50 PM
Oct 2013

Women don't need to wait for the man to be established as they have their own careers. That is really a good thing. You can get along better with someone closer to your age.

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