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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSebelius: 4.2 Million+ Have Initiated ACA Accounts --- Game over, Goposaurs.
Game over, Goposaurs - your sado-nihilist B.S. has failed catastrophically. The ACA only needs 7 million people to sign up in the first six months for it to be financially viable, and in less than a month, more than half that number have already started the process.Sebelius: 4.2 Million+ Have Initiated ACA Accounts
HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius posted a blog on Saturday with updated Obamacare sign-up stats and a description of a part of the ACA computer infrastructure that is in fact running quite smoothly - the Data Services Hub. Apparently it's pinging like a mofo. From Secretary Sebelius' post on HHS.gov :
The Social Security Administration has reported 4.2 million transactions involving individuals or households who have elected to establish an account. The current overall verification rate for Social Security numbers is 96%. With respect to those were unable to verify, consumers are notified online with instructions for resolving their verification issues. The highest numbers of transactions continues to involve individuals and households in the following states: Pennsylvania (323,000), New York (310,000), California (290,000), West Virginia (240,000), and Washington (135,000).
The Internal Revenue Service (IRS) has received and responded to more than 1.3 million requests for historical household income and family size tax data from the hub. The number of requests received does not reflect the number of people about whom the requests were made (i.e., a single request can involve everyone in a household). Thus, the number of individuals about whom the requests were made could be higher than 1.3 million. The IRS has provided data responses electronically via the hub in near-real time (average actual response time is 0.37 seconds).
The IRS also offers an advance premium tax credit computation service, which is optional for state Marketplaces. If a Marketplace chooses to use the IRS service, it sends a few data points, without identifying the applicant, and the IRS provides a math result in response. More than 330,000 requests have been received for the computation service with an average actual response time of 0.21 seconds.
States are reporting that they are satisfied with the hubs performance. The technology program manager for Kentuckys Marketplace said recently that 92% of applicants have been successfully verified through the hub: Were overjoyed with that 92 percent. I dont know that we thought it would be that high of a success rate. Connecticut has also reported few problems with the hub.
Bottom Line:
The Hub is a 21st century way to assess eligibility for coverage and premium assistance, and its working for residents of all 50 states and DC. Well continue to monitor and optimize its performance. And we wont stop working 24/7 until the doors of HealthCare.gov are wide open. If you need health coverage, its our mission to be sure these tools are here for you, running smoothly. The Hub is on the job, and so are we.
http://www.hhs.gov/digitalstrategy/blog/2013/10/marketplace-data-services-hub.html
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/10/27/1250980/-Sebelius-4-2-Million-Have-Initiated-ACA-Accounts
murray hill farm
(3,650 posts)Love it! Perfect!
Historic NY
(37,451 posts)its working.
CatWoman
(79,302 posts)Jasana
(490 posts)calimary
(81,348 posts)"so live long and eat shit!"
Remarkable! Very pleased to hear this! TOO MANY PEOPLE NEED THIS, DAMMIT!!!!!!!!!!
Jasana
(490 posts)doc03
(35,354 posts)in a panic worrying about losing their health insurance. It's a "free clinic" and they are worried about losing insurance, for gawdsake
they are there because they don't have insurance.
Historic NY
(37,451 posts)so I said don't you have medicare? Yes.....then what the hell are you talking about!! This has nothing to do with you, you already have government healthcare.
doc03
(35,354 posts)gtar100
(4,192 posts)pnwmom
(108,980 posts)she's now getting a much better Medigap policy. I'm not sure how that works, but I'm very happy for her.
Lifelong Dem
(344 posts)Here's your damage control. "4.2 Million+ Have Initiated ACA Accounts ". Take that Candy Crowley.
JanT
(229 posts)NoOneMan
(4,795 posts)Using words like "initiated" to count curious window shoppers (who have to get an account just to check rates) as part of some meaningful metric is a bit of a sham. There is going to only be a certain number of such that actually "convert" and enroll, and some of those window shopper might simply be onlookers with no intention of using the exchange. They'll get their numbers, I'm sure (though that doesn't mean the plans will be a smashing success to the enrollees) but I don't know what the point of the early spin is
People have had to start over several times....
mucifer
(23,555 posts)I totally agree with you.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)But fact is it takes a lot of time and effort to actually get the thing to work. As a result, the number of people just going to look is going to be lower than if the web site was working flawlessly.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)was put off by the delays.
Only serious customers will go to the trouble of actually applying, in my opinion. Window shoppers can use things like the Kaiser calculator. (And my state has its own quick calculator that doesn't require an actual application but does compute subsidies based on age, family size, and income.)
And if there are some window shoppers, I think many of them will get lured in by the rates.
Squinch
(50,957 posts)Iliyah
(25,111 posts)will call her a liar and investigate, subpoena, call witnesses and waste more taxpayers money.
GOOD NEWS. Just think if the site had run more smoothly how many would have signed up. On a side note, many online initial start ups had extremely rocky systems, i.e. Amazon, Apple, to name a few.
With the corporate media bashing Obamacare and the "Goposaurs" (love that), Obamacare is more main stream and the American public is taking more positive notice.
calimary
(81,348 posts)I think it's very thoughtful of him to include both his resume and character references in his last name for your convenience, don't you?
muriel_volestrangler
(101,322 posts)What Sibelius said was "The Social Security Administration has reported 4.2 million transactions involving individuals or households who have elected to establish an account". There's nothing that says every 'transaction' means a new account. What she also wrote was "As of yesterday, nearly 700,000 Americans had completed an application through the Marketplaces more than half of them through the federal Marketplace. This does not count applications directly to Medicaid and CHIP agencies that also can use the Hub. ".
jazzimov
(1,456 posts)last part of the very sentence you quoted:
"The Social Security Administration has reported 4.2 million transactions involving individuals or households who have elected to establish an account".
muriel_volestrangler
(101,322 posts)In online transaction processing, a 'transaction' is an exchange of information between 2 or more systems. This might mean, for instance, one transaction to establish a unique identifier for each person concerned (eg each person in the family), another transaction for the known data on each, and another to update the status of each as having applied or not. We'd need to know the architecture of the systems to know how many transactions per person is typical.
BluegrassStateBlues
(881 posts)Hutzpa
(11,461 posts)from the ACA website just so we know which states have seen more glitches?
I wouldn't be surprise if they find that most of the website glitches have come from
republican held states.
another_liberal
(8,821 posts)None of those millions will ever have their coverage canceled because they get seriously ill, and none will be denied coverage because of preexisting conditions. That alone is a huge benefit to the American people.
The web site glitches are what happens when you farm-out important government work to the lowest bidder, instead of hiring in-house employees to do it. To hell with "Privatizing" our governmental services.
srican69
(1,426 posts)most of the people signing up are not in the 26- 35 bracket ...for ACA to be viable -- and from a bloomberg report - most of the accounts are the within the expanded medicaid ..( that loses money for the government) .. younger people need to signup. No evidence of that happening yet ...
However these are early days ... success/failure of ACA needs to be judged years rather than months from now
grantcart
(53,061 posts)Are going to sign u first.
In Mass younger people only signed up as the deadlin approached
intersectionality
(106 posts)I was at work today in East Harlem at a little pop-up market and there was a woman asking us if we needed any information signing up for "Obamacare." I love how people working for someone are literally canvassing all over NY to get people to sign up. Also had a canvasser in my walk-up apartment last week. Give it to all the people.
Nine
(1,741 posts)Lex
(34,108 posts)gopiscrap
(23,761 posts)IronLionZion
(45,466 posts)because that means they know it exists and are at least curious. We won't get meaningful stats on purchases for a few months yet but I am optimistic.
But this is mostly for folks who need it most. And the GOP are desperately trying to discourage or scare people into thinking they should do without. Its up to us to keep promoting the benefits and ways to sign up for any uninsured people we know. My uninsured friends and family and definitely getting tired of hearing it from me.
mattclearing
(10,091 posts)I don't think HHS is saying 4.2 million unique people have queried the hub, but rather that 4.2 million transactions have occurred on the site.
I'm not sure what they are referring to, but generally a transaction can be a click on a submit button on one of any number of forms.
Depending on how many screens there are, this could boil down to less than a million users.
Berlum
(7,044 posts)...and try to act like Americans for a change.