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malaise

(269,087 posts)
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 03:21 PM Oct 2013

The REAL ‘Lone Ranger’ Was An African American Lawman Who Lived With Native American Indians

http://politicalblindspot.com/the-real-lone-ranger-was-an-african-american-lawman-who-lived-with-native-american-indians/
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The real “Lone Ranger,” it turns out, was an African American man named Bass Reeves, who the legend was based upon. Perhaps not surprisingly, many aspects of his life were written out of the story, including his ethnicity. The basics remained the same: a lawman hunting bad guys, accompanied by a Native American, riding on a white horse, and with a silver trademark.

Historians of the American West have also, until recently, ignored the fact that this man was African American, a free black man who headed West to find himself less subject to the racist structure of the established Eastern and Southern states.

While historians have largely overlooked Reeves, there have been a few notable works on him. Vaunda Michaux Nelson’s book, Bad News for Outlaws: The Remarkable Life of Bass Reeves, Deputy U.S. Marshal, won the 2010 Coretta Scott King Award for best author. Arthur Burton released an overview of the man’s life a few years ago. Black Gun, Silver Star: The Life and Legend of Frontier Marshal Bass Reeves recounts that Reeves was born into a life of slavery in 1838. His slave-keeper brought him along as another personal servant when he went off to fight with the Confederate Army, during the Civil War.

Reeves took the chaos that ensued during the war to escape for freedom, after beating his “master” within an inch of his life, or according to some sources, to death. Perhaps the most intruiging thing about this escape was that Reeves only beat his enslaver after the latter lost sorely at a game of cards with Reeves and attacked him.

After successfully defending himself from this attack, he knew that there was no way he would be allowed to live if he stuck around.
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Don't tell the Freepers or Baggers.
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The REAL ‘Lone Ranger’ Was An African American Lawman Who Lived With Native American Indians (Original Post) malaise Oct 2013 OP
Very interesting! silverweb Oct 2013 #1
Hi-yo, Silver, awaaaaaaaay! Hekate Oct 2013 #2
This guy is fricking amazing Prophet 451 Oct 2013 #3
I understand that Morgan Freeman has acquired the film rights to his life. Z_I_Peevey Oct 2013 #14
Puts a whole new slant on "proud to be an Okie from Muskogee" starroute Oct 2013 #21
Well, I guess the old "Lone Ranger/ Tonto joke" will have to be changed. BlueJazz Oct 2013 #4
ROFL malaise Oct 2013 #9
I'll be perfectly ones I didn't know what the lone Ranger was based on anything in real life Arcanetrance Oct 2013 #5
Thanks, malaise. Cerridwen Oct 2013 #6
When I was growing up, not everyone had TV, RebelOne Oct 2013 #22
Mom and I were living with her folks. Cerridwen Oct 2013 #24
K&R One of the books on him is on the way now. Thanks. n/t Egalitarian Thug Oct 2013 #7
That was quick malaise Oct 2013 #11
It is. One of the best kept secrets in Las Vegas is an awesome library system. Egalitarian Thug Oct 2013 #29
Wow, thanks ! I'm definitely going to read one or both of those books. nt eppur_se_muova Oct 2013 #8
Thanks a lot, malaise! theHandpuppet Oct 2013 #10
"It's believed he was the real 'Lone Ranger'." Igel Oct 2013 #12
Lawman, white horse, Native American partner, signature silver coin Oilwellian Oct 2013 #15
All the early Cowboys were black.. HipChick Oct 2013 #13
Depends where you lived theHandpuppet Oct 2013 #16
Vaquero. westerebus Oct 2013 #18
My Grandfather's friend from childhood was McMurtry's inspiration for Deets Link Speed Oct 2013 #27
BULLSHIT. GreenStormCloud Oct 2013 #32
I believe I saw an entertaining historical fiction film loosely based on his life some years ago. Zorra Oct 2013 #17
CNN had an article about this in August BumRushDaShow Oct 2013 #19
Thanks for the link malaise Oct 2013 #23
"He was bigger than the Lone Ranger" Number23 Oct 2013 #25
Very cool history. The Lone Ranger was my first childhood memory of a TV show. nt adirondacker Oct 2013 #20
There definitely needs to be a movie about Bass Reeves. gordianot Oct 2013 #26
I just read another story about a freed slave. Delmette Oct 2013 #28
Any link? malaise Oct 2013 #31
It is an old-fashioned paper bok. GreenStormCloud Oct 2013 #33
You're right, kinda. Delmette Oct 2013 #35
K & R !!! WillyT Oct 2013 #30
K&R ismnotwasm Oct 2013 #34

silverweb

(16,402 posts)
1. Very interesting!
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 03:31 PM
Oct 2013

[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]And somehow not very surprising.

I'm glad the real story is coming out.



Prophet 451

(9,796 posts)
3. This guy is fricking amazing
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 03:52 PM
Oct 2013

Once served a warrant on three brothers. They all drew on him but he was quick enough to not only shoot two but grab the gun off the third and pistol whip him with it. Before, as the law demanded, taking him directly to jail.

This guy is a classic biopic waiting to happen.

Z_I_Peevey

(2,783 posts)
14. I understand that Morgan Freeman has acquired the film rights to his life.
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 05:19 PM
Oct 2013

Reeves is also thought to be one of the models for Rooster Cogburn in the book True Grit. There's a monument dedicated to his memory in Fort Smith, Arkansas.

Reeves became a policeman in Muskogee, Oklahoma after Indian Territory became a state.

 

BlueJazz

(25,348 posts)
4. Well, I guess the old "Lone Ranger/ Tonto joke" will have to be changed.
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 03:57 PM
Oct 2013

Tonto: Lone Ranger, Look!..."The Black Gang" is coming over the hill. We better run!!
Lone Ranger: What you mean, "We"...Tonto ??

Cerridwen

(13,258 posts)
6. Thanks, malaise.
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 04:08 PM
Oct 2013

We're looking at the local library website for some books as you read this post. One book is The Black Badge and the other is Black Gun, Silver Star.

I grew up watching the TV series that I didn't know was based on an historical figure. Now I can read more on the man behind the legend.

Very cool.

Thanks again.

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
22. When I was growing up, not everyone had TV,
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 06:31 PM
Oct 2013

but I would listen on the radio. Loved it when I could finally see the Lone Ranger on TV. He and Tonto were my heroes.

Cerridwen

(13,258 posts)
24. Mom and I were living with her folks.
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 06:36 PM
Oct 2013

I still remember the 25 lb. black dial phone and using my 5 year old fingers to try and dial it. It was the first number I memorized and I still remember it.

Sorry. Off topic but that brought back some memories.

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
29. It is. One of the best kept secrets in Las Vegas is an awesome library system.
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 10:08 PM
Oct 2013

It's open 7 days a week, and has a very impressive collection on it's own, as well as access to several other massive libraries from which they will happily procure the materials you need.

I hate to say it, but Las Vegas' library (Clark county, technically) is much better than either Denver's or Los Angeles', and as for Portland, Phoenix, Atlanta, Chicago, Seattle, and San Francisco, they aren't even in the same league. It's actually pretty sad when you think about it.

Igel

(35,323 posts)
12. "It's believed he was the real 'Lone Ranger'."
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 05:11 PM
Oct 2013

That's as far as it goes.

The actual trail is to somebody who isn't Reeves, if you check what the creators of the series and the creator of the book the series was based on say. But some believe that the trail is obscured and Reeves was the real inspiration, even if it means just assuming that people are lying to hide the unspoken truth.

No evidence. Just belief. "The real 'Lone Ranger' was Bass Reeves" is an unfounded assertion.

The idea's gone viral--not a massive epidemic, but it's out there. Some actual evidence apart from some cherry-picked similarities would be nice. Since we do pride ourselves on facts and not faith.

Oilwellian

(12,647 posts)
15. Lawman, white horse, Native American partner, signature silver coin
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 05:32 PM
Oct 2013

That's a lot of coincidences.

K&R

 

Link Speed

(650 posts)
27. My Grandfather's friend from childhood was McMurtry's inspiration for Deets
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 07:42 PM
Oct 2013

in Lonesome Dove.

His name was Jesus and he was a mix of Caddo and African. He never sat in a chair or slept in a bed and he could predict the weather three days in advance. He was also the best shot I have ever seen and - when he was seven years old - killed a man who was attempting to kidnap my Grandfather. Because of nightmarish childhoods, they ran away from East Texas at the age of six and lived with the Hopi in NM until my Grandfather left to fly for the Army Air Corps in WWI. My Grandfather was the only non-Hopi Penitente in Hopi history.

GreenStormCloud

(12,072 posts)
32. BULLSHIT.
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 03:30 PM
Oct 2013

Early cowboys were of all races and ethnics. Many were black, and a black cowboy was one of the first rodeo stars. But to claim that ALL were black is blatantly false.

Indeed, most of the contributions of blacks to the history of the early West has been forgotten and needs to be rediscovered. Lots of the troopers, both mounted and foot, were black.

BumRushDaShow

(129,165 posts)
19. CNN had an article about this in August
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 05:46 PM
Oct 2013
http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/06/sport/lone-ranger-african-american-reeves/

Fascinating story!

I think the various stories were coming out on the heels of the Johnny Depp "Lone Ranger" film that ran this past year.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
25. "He was bigger than the Lone Ranger"
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 07:21 PM
Oct 2013
"He was bigger than the Lone Ranger -- he was a combination of the Lone Ranger, Sherlock Holmes and Superman," Burton told CNN. "But because he was a black man his story has been buried. He never got the recognition he deserved."


So sad. And so fucking typical.

Thank you for posting this. This whole thread is fascinating.

gordianot

(15,242 posts)
26. There definitely needs to be a movie about Bass Reeves.
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 07:36 PM
Oct 2013

Amazing how truth is often more compelling than fiction.

Delmette

(522 posts)
28. I just read another story about a freed slave.
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 08:31 PM
Oct 2013

The book is Mary Fields, The story of black Mary by James A Franks. She lived from 1832 until 1914 and was a legend in Montana. My grandmother and great grandmother probably knew her because they lived in the same small town of Cascade.

The it's an easy read and a great story.

GreenStormCloud

(12,072 posts)
33. It is an old-fashioned paper bok.
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 03:35 PM
Oct 2013

Look for it in Amazon. There are two books listed. She appears to have been a stagecoach driver.

Delmette

(522 posts)
35. You're right, kinda.
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 06:33 PM
Oct 2013

Mary became a freight driver for Wells Fargo when she was about 65 years old. Wells Fargo had the contract to deliver the mail.

I bought my copy at the local historical society. I rarely buy anything online.

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