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malaise

(269,087 posts)
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 07:59 PM Oct 2013

Obama 'not told of Merkel phone bugging'

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-24698142
<snip>

The chief of the US spy agency NSA has not discussed the alleged bugging of German chancellor's phone with President Barack Obama, officials say.

By all accounts, Angela Merkel has been genuinely shocked by the revelations. People close to her told the BBC she felt personally affronted. When Barack Obama was in Berlin in June, they did seem to get on well. She is not good at hiding her feelings, and the glum scowl she used to reserve for Silvio Berlusconi, for example, was replaced by a beam of warmth. They were tactile - he would put his arm round her back; she would clutch his elbow. Perhaps the sense of betrayal is all the greater because of her background in the East German communist regime where spying was pervasive. She might have expected it from the Stasi but not from her new best friend.

An NSA source told the paper that Obama had not stopped the operation, and had wanted to know all about Mrs Merkel as "he did not trust her".
'Not true'

However a statement from the National Security Agency on Sunday denied the reports in Bild.

"[General] Alexander did not discuss with President Obama in 2010 an alleged foreign intelligence operation involving German Chancellor Merkel, nor has he ever discussed alleged operations involving Chancellor Merkel," NSA spokeswoman Vanee Vines said.

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Obama has more enemies at the NSA than I can count.
This is some dangerous shit going on here. Treason is a mild word.
Obaa better take control of these goons.
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Obama 'not told of Merkel phone bugging' (Original Post) malaise Oct 2013 OP
rogue agency? spanone Oct 2013 #1
Carlyle? malaise Oct 2013 #3
They are specific that Alexander didn't brief him dipsydoodle Oct 2013 #2
A complete overhaul is required malaise Oct 2013 #4
agreed grasswire Oct 2013 #5
They don't deny that he was briefed in anything I have seen. woo me with science Oct 2013 #6
Done malaise Oct 2013 #7
The article does NOT say that Obama was not told of the spying. woo me with science Oct 2013 #8
Before leaving the Presidency... liberalmuse Oct 2013 #9
Gone rogue nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #10
WSJ is also reporting tonight that he was completely unaware of ANY spying on world leaders. BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #11

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
2. They are specific that Alexander didn't brief him
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 08:04 PM
Oct 2013

but not saying that he wasn't briefed. BBC link contans that reference.

malaise

(269,087 posts)
4. A complete overhaul is required
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 08:07 PM
Oct 2013

The Feds must take back the NSA from the private contractors most of whom are ReTHUGs.
This is fugged up big time.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
5. agreed
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 08:11 PM
Oct 2013

They are sowing the seeds of a bitter rift between Europe and America, by trying to take Obama down.

I've been saying for months now that the intelligence elites have more power than POTUS.

Scary times, scary times.

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
6. They don't deny that he was briefed in anything I have seen.
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 08:12 PM
Oct 2013

They deny that *Alexander* briefed him.

Could you please add the link for the quote in your OP title?

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
8. The article does NOT say that Obama was not told of the spying.
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 08:39 PM
Oct 2013

The White House has denied only that he was told BY ALEXANDER, not that he was told at all. In fact, the article makes a point of clarifying that the White House's statement leaves open the possibility that he was briefed."

The statement does not make it clear whether the president was informed of the bugging operation by other means.


The headline you copied from the BBC is thus inaccurate and misleading in suggesting that we know the President was not told of the spying. The article is careful to say that we DON'T KNOW.

It looks like the headline writer at BBC was either extremely careless in inserting quotes, or was actively trying to mislead on behalf of the Americans.

liberalmuse

(18,672 posts)
9. Before leaving the Presidency...
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 09:15 PM
Oct 2013

we all remember reading about how Bush was making appointees left and right, and stashing right wing ideologues throughout the governmental agencies? This here is the result of that.

 
11. WSJ is also reporting tonight that he was completely unaware of ANY spying on world leaders.
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 09:21 PM
Oct 2013
Breaking News @BreakingNews

President Obama was unaware of spying program on world leaders, officials tell @WSJ on.wsj.com/HnON7I


Makes you wonder what else he doesn't know but is going to find out. Some ass will get kicked now.


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