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Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 08:08 PM Oct 2013

Arrested for Battery - Hate Crime = Two Jews assaulted for speaking "Spanish" (Hebrew)

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A Janesville man was arrested for two counts of battery, with a hate crime enhancer, after punching two men on N. Henry St. early this morning. The victims were speaking Hebrew when the suspect passed them on the street. He swore at the men and demanded they speak English. This led to a confrontation where the victims were both struck in the face. One fell to the ground. The other had an eye that was nearly swollen shut. The suspect denied delivering blows, but did acknowledge telling the men to speak English. However, he thought they were talking in Spanish. An independent witness said the suspect did attack the two Hebrew speaking men.

From Madison WI police report online.
http://www.cityofmadison.com/police/newsroom/incidentreports/incident.cfm?id=14874

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Arrested for Battery - Hate Crime = Two Jews assaulted for speaking "Spanish" (Hebrew) (Original Post) Coyotl Oct 2013 OP
Racist, stupid and violent is no way to go through life, son! Nanjing to Seoul Oct 2013 #1
I envy you! Xipe Totec Oct 2013 #4
Isn't Monterrey one of the centers of Jewish life in Mexico del Norte, btw? AverageJoe90 Oct 2013 #7
There is some crypto-Jew in my background. Xipe Totec Oct 2013 #11
Well, someone who lacks knowledge of both might confuse the two. immoderate Oct 2013 #14
That would have to be some sort of quantum level of linguistic ignorance, though Scootaloo Oct 2013 #28
My guess is the perp probabaly doesn't like Jews either; probably thinks he scored a twofer. Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2013 #31
Well, in your defense... Scootaloo Oct 2013 #32
What the hell is wrong with people? yuiyoshida Oct 2013 #16
True story about that. Try not to choke Nanjing to Seoul Oct 2013 #17
This happens to Navajos in AZ all the time! Coyotl Oct 2013 #18
I have heard this before... yuiyoshida Oct 2013 #19
I speak five languages. If I move to Thailand in 18 months, I will be able to speak six over time. Nanjing to Seoul Oct 2013 #20
Orientis partibus adventavit genius! Sognefjord Oct 2013 #22
Sorry, Latin isn't one of my language Nanjing to Seoul Oct 2013 #23
That is outstanding yuiyoshida Oct 2013 #24
It's often the ones who aren't very good at english themselves. Scootaloo Oct 2013 #29
This man sounds like Turbineguy Oct 2013 #27
Link? theHandpuppet Oct 2013 #2
I read it on Rawstory if that helps... giftedgirl77 Oct 2013 #3
Isn't Janesville in Missouri? theHandpuppet Oct 2013 #8
Wisconsin, I believe. marmar Oct 2013 #9
Ah, yes, I should have known that theHandpuppet Oct 2013 #12
Well, I didn't find a local report, but... theHandpuppet Oct 2013 #13
LINK added on edit = Madison WI police report Coyotl Oct 2013 #10
Hope this guy goes away for a while. AverageJoe90 Oct 2013 #5
OMG. Violent, racist and box-of-rocks stupid. ...... Bad combo. marmar Oct 2013 #6
DON'T ever, ever insult a box of rocks like that again. bluestate10 Oct 2013 #34
LOL. Coyotl Oct 2013 #35
He won't have trouble finding a job when he gets out of jail Dopers_Greed Oct 2013 #15
Oy. Gormy Cuss Oct 2013 #21
Spanish and Hebrew are so similar! Behind the Aegis Oct 2013 #25
Big fists and small minds are always a bad mix... KansDem Oct 2013 #26
I blame his congressman IronLionZion Oct 2013 #30
Teabbagger through and through. Ignorant to hate someone speaking "Spanish" bluestate10 Oct 2013 #33
 

Nanjing to Seoul

(2,088 posts)
1. Racist, stupid and violent is no way to go through life, son!
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 08:11 PM
Oct 2013

I speak both Hebrew and Spanish. Only an idiot would confuse the two.

I can't wait to go back home next summer with my wife and speak Chinese on the street with her. I'm expecting to get shot and her beaten up for speaking "commie talk."

Since we all know "Speak Chinese and spread disease."

Xipe Totec

(43,890 posts)
4. I envy you!
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 08:18 PM
Oct 2013

I wish I could speak Hebrew.

I love languages; It runs in my family.

I have two cousins who can sing fluently in Hebrew although they do not speak the language. A result of a close friendship with a Jewish lady living in Mexico.

At the very least, I wish I could read Ladino; an ancient dialect of Spanish that is written in the Hebrew alphabet.


 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
7. Isn't Monterrey one of the centers of Jewish life in Mexico del Norte, btw?
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 08:19 PM
Oct 2013

From what I've read, it does seem that a fair number of Jewish persons did make their way to Nuevo Leon during the colonial pre-independence era.

Xipe Totec

(43,890 posts)
11. There is some crypto-Jew in my background.
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 08:25 PM
Oct 2013

And yes, there is a lot of Jewish blood coursing through Northern Mexico. It's a shame that the culture perished though the people survived.

Monterrey is definitely one of those areas.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
28. That would have to be some sort of quantum level of linguistic ignorance, though
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 06:56 AM
Oct 2013

Granted, this guy likely thinks every "furrin" language ins Spanish, but that doesn't detract from my point...

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
31. My guess is the perp probabaly doesn't like Jews either; probably thinks he scored a twofer.
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 08:16 AM
Oct 2013

On a personal mea culpa I once mistook Portuguese for Russian.

yuiyoshida

(41,835 posts)
16. What the hell is wrong with people?
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 11:19 PM
Oct 2013

Last night while On Line, I got the "This is America" speech, followed by "Speak fucking English" .... I was like WTF! I could not believe she said that to me.. I my friends and I wanta practice my Japanese, I should be allowed to. This was on an international website as well.. I guess she must of thought we were TALKING ABOUT THEM... we had no interest in them.

 

Nanjing to Seoul

(2,088 posts)
17. True story about that. Try not to choke
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 11:46 PM
Oct 2013

I was at the Little America Hotel in Flagstaff, AZ once. I went into the Truck Stop area and saw these two Navajo college students (I was in graduate school at the time) talking to each other in their native language.

As I sat down at a table next to them, a big fat, hairy, smelly (and I mean RIPE) white guy with a stained t-shirt with the confederate flag on it and the sleeve cut off so we can see his armpit hair, unkempt beard, long greasy stringy hair and a big fat gut comes up to them and starts yelling at them.

Shocked, the two Navajo do nothing but listen. He starts screaming about how they are an insult to his country (all in a deep southern accent) and ends by saying (and I will never forget this):

"In America, we spake English. Talk English or go back to where you came from."

Then, fatso walked away.

Now. . .HE SAID THIS TO NAVAJO!!! NAVAJO!!!! I will repeat. . .NAVAJO!!!!

I walked up to these two almost in tears girls and said "don't worry. Not all white men are assholes like that." Then I showed them my mother's Iroquois BIA number (she was adopted), smiled and walked away.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
18. This happens to Navajos in AZ all the time!
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 11:56 PM
Oct 2013

When I lived in AZ, I spoke Spanish as much as possible. English is the come-later conquistador tongue in the SW and California and should be treated as such. Besides, Spanish is a better language. Native American languages are even better. I've only learned one, but it is far better than European languages.

yuiyoshida

(41,835 posts)
19. I have heard this before...
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 12:45 AM
Oct 2013

But its seems so much worse when it actually happens to you... You are just stunned that people have the nerve and walk up to your face and tell you, SPEAK FUCKING ENGLISH... you can only look at them and wonder WHAT planet they come from.

 

Nanjing to Seoul

(2,088 posts)
20. I speak five languages. If I move to Thailand in 18 months, I will be able to speak six over time.
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 01:28 AM
Oct 2013

Unfortunately, Japanese is not one of them. Korean and Chinese are.

So, 你好,美丽日本的美国人

yuiyoshida

(41,835 posts)
24. That is outstanding
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 05:24 AM
Oct 2013

I would like to be better with my Japanese but its hard to find anyone to practice with. I am hoping one of these days to go back to school..and improve. I want to be fluent, more than anything. It be nice to be able to read Kanji too some day.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
29. It's often the ones who aren't very good at english themselves.
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 06:59 AM
Oct 2013

"Yawl dun be tawkin that moonspeak bool-sheet round here these parts none, y'heer?"

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
13. Well, I didn't find a local report, but...
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 08:32 PM
Oct 2013

... here's another fairly recent article about racism in Janesville. Sounds like such a pleasant place, doesn't it? And I think it's Paul Ryan's hometown, too.

http://www.channel3000.com/news/janesville-woman-charged-with-hate-crime-for-hanging-effigy-doll/-/1648/21007354/-/oldjjwz/-/index.html

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
5. Hope this guy goes away for a while.
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 08:18 PM
Oct 2013

Yeah, it's obvious to me this guy was acting out of bigotry and hatred.....throw the book at him.

Dopers_Greed

(2,640 posts)
15. He won't have trouble finding a job when he gets out of jail
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 10:49 PM
Oct 2013

If the GOP is still around then. He could run for the House.

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
33. Teabbagger through and through. Ignorant to hate someone speaking "Spanish"
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 06:27 PM
Oct 2013

even when he has no idea of what Spanish sounds like.

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