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Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 08:51 PM Oct 2013

Was Obama bugged? Ex-NSA chief talks on a train, fellow rider tweets, tweets go viral

Why was Hayden talking about Obama's Blackberry in the context of spying on foreign leaders? Was Obama spied on too?

"He talked about Obama's BlackBerry a bunch when he was talking about foreign leaders," Matzzie recalled.

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VIDEO: Former top spy busted on train, loud-talking



Rachel Maddow tells the tale of Tom Matzzie who live-tweeted details of former NSA director Michael Hayden giving too-loud, anonymous interviews on the train.
http://video.msnbc.msn.com/rachel-maddow/53369335/#53369335



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http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-nsa-hayden-train-twitter-20131025,0,635832.story

WASHINGTON — There was no need for high-tech listening devices to find out what the former head of the National Security Agency had to say about the Obama administration.

His cellphone conversations were overheard by a fellow train passenger, who let the world know via Twitter.

"On Acela: former NSA spy boss Michael Hayden just ended last of handful of interviews bashing administration," Tom Matzzie tweeted Thursday.

Matzzie, former Washington director of MoveOn.org., tweeted that Hayden was sitting behind him "blabbing on background as a former senior admin official."

"I feel like I'm in the NSA. Except I'm in public," Matzzie tweeted.

He feared that he might get caught.

"On Acela: phone ringing. I think the jig is up. Maybe somebody is telling him I'm here. Do I hide?"

"Just passed Philly. No rendition yet," he tweeted. ............


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See also Matzzie interview on HuffPost:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/24/nsa-director-tweets_n_4159565.html

Former NSA Director Isn't Too Thrilled About Having His Private Conversations Tweeted

NEW YORK -- Former NSA Director Michael Hayden doesn't seem too thrilled about having his anonymous conversations with reporters tweeted out for the world.

Progressive activist Tom Matzzie found himself on a train sitting near Hayden on Thursday, and quickly sent out tweets describing the former director's conversation. Matzzie wrote on Twitter that Hayden was "blabbing 'on background as a former senior admin official.'"

When HuffPost asked Hayden over email whether Matzzie's version of his phone conversation was faithful, Hayden replied that the depiction was "not especially accurate." Hayden didn't respond to another email asking for specifics.

Matzzie told HuffPost that during the fateful Acela ride, he couldn't believe what he was hearing, but Hayden "just kept on saying stuff."

"He talked about Obama's BlackBerry a bunch when he was talking about foreign leaders," Matzzie recalled. ......


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https://twitter.com/tommatzzie

Tom Matzzie ?@tommatzzie 25 Oct Tweets:

One more thing on Hayden, people don't go "on background" as a source for reporters in order to compliment somebody. #logicbeatsspin

So now that a bunch of people are following my tweets I want to talk about something really important: climate change

I just had a very nice conversation with Michael Hayden. He was a gentleman and we disagree.

On Acela: Hayden's comments to press were clearly about NSA spying on foreign allies. #haydenacela

There is a faint smell of sulfur on the train. #Haydenacela

I think I'm safe. Just passed Philly. No rendition yet. Do I have the balls to ask him for a photo? #haydenacela

New call. I am totally busted I think.

On Acela: phone ringing. I think the jig is up. Maybe somebody is telling him I'm here. Do I hide?

On Acela listening to former NSA spy boss Michael Hayden give "off record" interviews. I feel like I'm in the NSA. Except I'm in public.

On Acela: former NSA spy boss Michael Hayden just ended last of handful of interviews bashing admin.

On Acela: Michael Hayden was talking to Massimo Calabresi at TIME I am pretty sure. Does he tweet?

Michael Hayden on Acela giving reporters disparaging quotes about admin. "Remember, just refer as former senior admin"

Hayden was bragging about rendition and black sites a minute ago.

Hayden talking about a famous blackberry now.

Former NSA spy boss Michael Hayden on Acela behind me blabbing "on background as a former senior admin official" Sounds defensive.
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grasswire

(50,130 posts)
1. If Hayden were a Democrat, there would be a congressional investigation...
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 09:35 PM
Oct 2013

....under way right now.

Perhaps there SHOULD be a congressional investigation.

Malfeasance.

Total malfeasance.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
2. Yes, this does raise some interesting questions about ex-officials blabbing away against Obama
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 09:48 PM
Oct 2013

and about things like renditions.

I would have turned on my microphone. I wonder if that happened too?

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
3. the apparent gross incompetence of our "intelligence" community!
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 10:42 PM
Oct 2013

Blabbing on a train with people around.

Was Hayden drunk?

Does he have no filter on his mouth?

What??

dreamnightwind

(4,775 posts)
5. Irony overload
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 02:39 AM
Oct 2013

"Former NSA Director Michael Hayden doesn't seem too thrilled about having his anonymous conversations with reporters tweeted out for the world. "

So Hayden doesn't like people listening in on his conversations? That's so rich with irony it hurts.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
6. You'd think an old spymaster would realize people can listen in on loud conversations.
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 03:46 AM
Oct 2013

Double irony

Conversations on background = triple irony

dreamnightwind

(4,775 posts)
7. Maybe he had been drinking
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 04:09 AM
Oct 2013

People often don't notice how loud they are or the consequences of what they're doing after a couple of drinks. For someone like Hayden, though, that is no excuse, he would have to be well aware of its effects and of keeping a lid on what he says. Just a total fail on his part.

Nice pic and caption.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
9. Thanks for posting this. What a litany!
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 12:39 PM
Oct 2013

Imagine the power they have over Congressional decision making if they have dirt on a lot of people, or even if they have insider info that is not dirt.

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