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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNeed ammo for FB. this guy is saying that Pelosi would not allow any input on the ACA ... that the
bill was designed by Dems only and it is wholly the fault of the Dems.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Republicans never tried to participate in helping improve the bill--they only tried to sabotage it and defeat it. So, there were no Republicans trying to provide input.
YarnAddict
(1,850 posts)this belongs, lock, stock, and barrel, to the Democrats.
Tuesday Afternoon
(56,912 posts)enjoy your stay.
wilt the stilt
(4,528 posts)I started my own business which turned out to be very successful. I bought health insurance on the open market for years. Explain to me a family policy in the individual market. I'm waiting.
sinkingfeeling
(51,457 posts)The essence of Obamacare, as of Romneycare, is a three-legged stool of regulation and subsidies: community rating requiring insurers to make the same policies available to everyone regardless of health status; an individual mandate, requiring everyone to purchase insurance, so that healthy people dont opt out; and subsidies to keep insurance affordable for those with lower incomes.
The original Heritage plan from 1989 had all these features.
These days, Heritage strives mightily to deny the obvious; it picks at essentially minor differences between what it used to advocate and the plan Democrats actually passed, and tries to make them seem like a big deal. But this is disinformation. The essential features of the ACA above all, the mandate are ideas Republicans used to support.
Here's another good source on the amendments offered by the GOP:
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/prescriptions/2009/07/this_is_what_bipartisanship_looks_like.html
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(56,912 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)Tuesday Afternoon
(56,912 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)Tuesday Afternoon
(56,912 posts)now.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)a waste of time, space, and flesh.
Tuesday Afternoon
(56,912 posts)a lot of people reading the thread gave my comments thumbs up. Also, another guy was persuaded to see that Healthcare for Profit is morally and ethically wrong. So, it was not wasted time, I think.
Wounded Bear
(58,662 posts)or Medicare for all. While a major improvement over the prior status quo, the ACA is largely a gift to the insurance companies.
As was said above, the root of the plan is decidedly Republican, much like Romneycare in MA, which was massaged a bit by legislative Dems, but remains a largely conservative way to tackle the problem.
leftyohiolib
(5,917 posts)doesnt matter what you tell him. how does that saying go something like dont wrestle with a pig in the mud you'll only irritate yourself and the pig enjoys it
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(56,912 posts)learning.
melm00se
(4,993 posts)Tuesday Afternoon
(56,912 posts)Jeff In Milwaukee
(13,992 posts)Conceived by the Heritage Foundation and implemented by a Republican Governor.
So I think they had plenty of input.
jmowreader
(50,559 posts)That was the GOP's first attempt to kill the ACA. According to Wikipedia, they had a House bill and the Senate's ACA. They also had 59 Democratic-caucusing senators, so Speaker Pelosi decided to bring the Senate-approved ACA to the floor and pass it as approved. The Republicans knew any amendment would kill the bill (Scott Brown had just been elected) so they proposed a shitload of them, all of which were rejected.
I sometimes wonder if this Congress knows it will go down in history as being incapable of doing anything but naming post offices.