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Archae

(46,359 posts)
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 04:07 AM Mar 2012

Mean Jean and Dennis the Menace losing yesterday is hopefully part of a trend...

As in congress as a whole having abyzmal ratings.

"But my congresscritter just SOOOOOO good!"

I'm hoping today's Ohio primary is a beginning of a genuine "Throw the bums out!" movement, one that can't be taken over by the Kochs and their fatcat cronies.

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Mean Jean and Dennis the Menace losing yesterday is hopefully part of a trend... (Original Post) Archae Mar 2012 OP
yesterday was about redistricting JI7 Mar 2012 #1
You're celebrating Kucinich losing a seat in Congress jsmirman Mar 2012 #2
Issa cyclezealot Mar 2012 #6
Celebrating the loss of a Democratic seat in Congress. sabrina 1 Mar 2012 #46
Thankfully Kucinich was defeated by a liberal and not a blue dog. UnrepentantLiberal Mar 2012 #3
money and imagery. cyclezealot Mar 2012 #4
Point taken. UnrepentantLiberal Mar 2012 #5
I like both Kucinich and Kaptur, but the race is over. JDPriestly Mar 2012 #8
Methinks you guys might be missing the point -- Leopolds Ghost Mar 2012 #21
bingo!!!! it's about the redistricting newspeak Mar 2012 #22
Thanks. JDPriestly Mar 2012 #39
Kaptur's dirty play book will not be forgotten.. cyclezealot Mar 2012 #41
But her voting record is the point. cyclezealot Mar 2012 #51
Ethical ? surfdog Mar 2012 #14
I don't know about that newspeak Mar 2012 #33
Dennis the Menace? tkmorris Mar 2012 #7
This is why I avoid General Discussion. UnrepentantLiberal Mar 2012 #10
You can not be a fan of Dennis and also be disgusted by the thing that is Lieberman snooper2 Mar 2012 #36
Thanks for reminding me just where I've been posting. Junkdrawer Mar 2012 #9
One of the reasons we created an Occupy forum n/t Leopolds Ghost Mar 2012 #29
We are all entitled to our opinion Sherman A1 Mar 2012 #11
You compare that horrid Jean Schmidt to Dennis Kucinich? hlthe2b Mar 2012 #12
oh yeah, mean jean ain't around no more newspeak Mar 2012 #23
Would you care to tell me why you addressed that to me? hlthe2b Mar 2012 #26
no, sorry, not directing at you newspeak Mar 2012 #32
thanks for coming back to clarify... hlthe2b Mar 2012 #34
I doubt the the Kochs or any other fatcat is sufrommich Mar 2012 #13
Either way, I have a pro-labor progressive going against Not Joe Who's Not a Plumber. HughBeaumont Mar 2012 #15
yeah, well dennis was very pro-labor newspeak Mar 2012 #25
I hate it too and this state really has a LOT to learn. HughBeaumont Mar 2012 #38
Dennis the Menace? marmar Mar 2012 #16
It's hilarious. Get it? Becuase his name is Dennis and........ Guy Whitey Corngood Mar 2012 #28
about damn time. warrior1 Mar 2012 #17
So, you hate Dennis too? hlthe2b Mar 2012 #19
No, I was referring to Mean Jean. warrior1 Mar 2012 #37
nice slam of Kucinich CreekDog Mar 2012 #18
Lumping Rep Kucinich in with that awful woman is so wrong Marrah_G Mar 2012 #20
Hey Look Everyone... another Right Wing Democrat fascisthunter Mar 2012 #24
You know it's interesting that Kucinich in particular is considered OK to call names and celebrate Leopolds Ghost Mar 2012 #27
It says this site is crawling with centrists fascisthunter Mar 2012 #48
You should be ashamed to equate Jean Schmidt with Dennis Kucinich. PA Democrat Mar 2012 #30
Abyzmal. Starry Messenger Mar 2012 #31
Is there going to be an explanation of villifying a good Dem? On 2nd thought,there IS no explanation UTUSN Mar 2012 #35
I know a guy who had Kuchinich as a congressman. Archae Mar 2012 #40
Those are the reasons you called him Dennis The Menace? SomethingFishy Mar 2012 #47
There's more to it... Archae Mar 2012 #49
big tent in full effect here folks.. frylock Mar 2012 #42
It's a "trend" predicated on redistricting... not on throwing anyone out. LanternWaste Mar 2012 #43
Dennis the Menace? This is a crap thread. FLAprogressive Mar 2012 #44
John Boehner thanks you for your support of his plot to reduce Congress by one sabrina 1 Mar 2012 #45
What a crappy way to treat a hard working, PROGRESSIVE Democrat Matariki Mar 2012 #50

cyclezealot

(4,802 posts)
6. Issa
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 05:01 AM
Mar 2012

No doubt Issa is salivating over Kucinich's loss. Does that make you happy.. Kucinich did quite well in his home town districts , where he is well known and voters know better than to listen to the views of outsiders.. Kucinich put the most fear into thug , Chair Issa of any other member of Government Operations Committee. And they call Kucinich ineffective. What fools we are.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
46. Celebrating the loss of a Democratic seat in Congress.
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 04:32 PM
Mar 2012

It did not matter to Boehner whether it was Marcy Kaptur or Dennis Kucinich. He wanted to eliminate one Democratic seat and he succeeded and here we are on DU, celebrating that.

I agree with your reaction

cyclezealot

(4,802 posts)
4. money and imagery.
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 04:51 AM
Mar 2012

Kucinich was one of the most ethical members of Congress.. Look at Kucinich's pac money contributions and compare them to Kapturs.. It is Kaptur who should be put under suspicion as being the bum.. Money talks and image makers rule the airwaves. Unfortunately some even here at the DU fall under their prey.. As for me.. Kucinich was one of the few members of the party to draw me to the party.. the loss of figures such as Kucinich is only cause to drop out of the money game that controls our congress.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
8. I like both Kucinich and Kaptur, but the race is over.
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 05:23 AM
Mar 2012

We really have to lick our wounds and get on with the job of electing a majority of Democrats for Congress as well as the President.

I apologize if I sound like a scold, but we cannot lose this election. Look at how horrible these two years are. The Republican majority in Congress is a disaster.

Kucinich will find a venue, hopefully one that permits him to have more influence with the public than his seat in Congress has allowed. Kucinich is a creative thinker with good moral values. Marcy Kaptur is a very practical person.

Pitting them against each other was a cruel thing to do. But Kucinich will find his voice and his opportunities. He is too important to be silenced.

Leopolds Ghost

(12,875 posts)
21. Methinks you guys might be missing the point --
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 11:02 AM
Mar 2012

The redistricting deliberately disenfranchised the entire northern tier of Ohio. "Moving on" is not an option for those people. Marcy Kaptur was basically given a safe seat in return for almost every other Dem in Ohio losing theirs. The fact that some here on DU are celebrating Kucinich's loss should tell us everything we need to know about the direction things are headed in November.

newspeak

(4,847 posts)
22. bingo!!!! it's about the redistricting
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 11:20 AM
Mar 2012

so who do you think it's going to benefit. and who is going to have less representation?

cyclezealot

(4,802 posts)
41. Kaptur's dirty play book will not be forgotten..
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 03:26 PM
Mar 2012

Tying Kucinich to Jimmy Dimora in an attack ad will not be forgotten.. I expect such behavior from the Repukes.. She will not get my vote and or money .. I had expected more from her but she failed. She is disgusting and I will not get over it.. Besides, didn't we learn from 2010 , should we elect a bunch of blue dogs, the difference won't be enough to again have the general public turn against us.. Republican hate is not enough to salvage the Democratic party from another 2010 disaster in either 2014 or 2016.

cyclezealot

(4,802 posts)
51. But her voting record is the point.
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 08:04 AM
Mar 2012

She votes on the wrong side of important issues far more frequently than does Kucinich..

 

surfdog

(624 posts)
14. Ethical ?
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 09:01 AM
Mar 2012

Didn't he vote against expanding the nationwide Amber alert system ?

I would like to hear that explained

newspeak

(4,847 posts)
33. I don't know about that
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 12:22 PM
Mar 2012

I'd have to study, to see. If he did vote against it, there could be reasons why. One reason comes to mind, is a rider was on the bill. congresscritters love to attach things that wouldn't normally pass on things that are beneficial. Some attachments are very damaging.

tkmorris

(11,138 posts)
7. Dennis the Menace?
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 05:21 AM
Mar 2012

You don't like Liberals much huh? So, if you don't like Kucinich much who do you like? Lieberman? The Nelson twins?

No sweat off my nose. I know where I stand.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
36. You can not be a fan of Dennis and also be disgusted by the thing that is Lieberman
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 12:33 PM
Mar 2012

at the same time...


Really, you can, it's not all just black and white left and right out there ya know

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
11. We are all entitled to our opinion
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 05:55 AM
Mar 2012

I however, disagree with what appears to be a rather snarky comment about Dennis Kucinich.

I believe it is a loss for us all, engineered by redistricting.

hlthe2b

(102,420 posts)
12. You compare that horrid Jean Schmidt to Dennis Kucinich?
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 08:56 AM
Mar 2012

What do you have against Dennis? he was redistricted.

And if there is a indiscriminate wave of removing incumbents, we will be seriously hurt as well

newspeak

(4,847 posts)
23. oh yeah, mean jean ain't around no more
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 11:26 AM
Mar 2012

just vote for someone further to the right (if you can believe that) than mean jean. Yeah, throw all of the bums out and vote for some that want to bring the good old days back. Of course, I'm torn between the good old robber baron days (deregulating, anti-labor), the good old the church rules your life days (anti-women, anti-gay, shove our beliefs down your throats), or the good old goosestepping hitler days (now it's anti-muslim, still anti-gay, anti-liberal, anti-unionists).

hlthe2b

(102,420 posts)
26. Would you care to tell me why you addressed that to me?
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 11:54 AM
Mar 2012
I hope you were speaking rhetorically. If you were not, you could scarcely be more offensive.

newspeak

(4,847 posts)
32. no, sorry, not directing at you
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 12:17 PM
Mar 2012

but, reading on another thread; mean jean is out that's good; but the guy who won may be more batshite crazy than she is; and he's fully endorsed by the teabaggers. It's like going "out of the frying pan and into the fire."

I am saddened and disheartened to see kuccinich go, though. He was very pro-labor. Because of redistricting, the repugs have made it even harder for more democrats to win in ohio.

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
15. Either way, I have a pro-labor progressive going against Not Joe Who's Not a Plumber.
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 09:11 AM
Mar 2012

For The WIN.

The race I'm concerned about will be Renacci vs Sutton. How Jim Renacci is popular is beyond me completely. Are voters just THAT fucked up in the 16th?

Sherrod Brown vs Josh Mandel. PLEASE. Ohio better have learned it's Kat$hit lesson quickly.

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
38. I hate it too and this state really has a LOT to learn.
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 12:45 PM
Mar 2012

Way too many stupid voters that allow WAY too many right-of-Teahad Repukes in office and they continually wonder why this state goes nowhere. Ted Strickland had the SAME economy as 49 other states did . . . there was absolutely NO reason whatsoever to replace him with a Wall-Streeter Fauxite such as Kat$hit other than the fact that our voters are just plain not educated. They do whatever the hell Faux tells them to do (in this case, blame the Demmycrats for Bewsh/Taft's shitting of the economy). If it weren't for the votes in semi-big cities that Kerry and Gore didn't get, Obama would have lost Ohio. McCain, thankfully, was just THAT bad a candidate.

Leopolds Ghost

(12,875 posts)
27. You know it's interesting that Kucinich in particular is considered OK to call names and celebrate
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 11:55 AM
Mar 2012

his defeat on DU3.

That was not even allowed of Lieberman until he left the party.

What does that say? If you had called Obama a name in your subject line, or Kaptur for that matter...

UTUSN

(70,762 posts)
35. Is there going to be an explanation of villifying a good Dem? On 2nd thought,there IS no explanation
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 12:26 PM
Mar 2012

Archae

(46,359 posts)
40. I know a guy who had Kuchinich as a congressman.
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 01:57 PM
Mar 2012

Not a republican, either.

He said Kuchinic didn't give a tinker's dam about people in his own district.
Except in election years.

Found these also on his Wikipedia page:

Kucinich is currently drafting legislation that includes a ban on the purchase, sale, transfer, or possession of handguns by civilians.

In a Democratic debate during the 2008 Presidential Election, Kucinich and Mike Gravel were the only two candidates who favored lowering the legal drinking age to 18

SomethingFishy

(4,876 posts)
47. Those are the reasons you called him Dennis The Menace?
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 04:40 PM
Mar 2012

One person told you he didn't like him. He's for strict gun control, and he thinks if you are old enough to carry the governments gun and kill with it you should be old enough to drink. That's what you have? Really?

He's also anti-death penalty. You missed that one. He's pro-single payer too. Oh and he thinks war takes money away from the middle class and poor and gives it to war profiteers.

Yeah. What an asshole.



Archae

(46,359 posts)
49. There's more to it...
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 06:16 PM
Mar 2012

I just don't feel like cutting and pasting all that Kucinic stuff.

Kucinic (how do you spell his name and for that matter pronounce it anyway?) showed his lack of class when he slammed Marcy Kaptur's campaign, rahter than bowing out gracefully.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
43. It's a "trend" predicated on redistricting... not on throwing anyone out.
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 04:29 PM
Mar 2012

It's a "trend" predicated on redistricting... not on throwing anyone out.

But, as it allowed you to slam a progressive democrat, I imagine that you believe it's merely a distinction without a difference; as is 1% of the whole being referred to as a "trend"...

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
45. John Boehner thanks you for your support of his plot to reduce Congress by one
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 04:30 PM
Mar 2012

Democrat. He succeeded. I'm sure he's celebrating also.

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