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graywarrior

(59,440 posts)
Thu Oct 31, 2013, 06:24 PM Oct 2013

This is absolutely disgusting. Protect the wolves from trash like this.

Our tax dollars at work. Federal employee uses trapped wolves for target practice. Call to remove Butch Bransford 208 842 2245 Red River Ranger in Perce Nat'l Forest Idaho.

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This is absolutely disgusting. Protect the wolves from trash like this. (Original Post) graywarrior Oct 2013 OP
I called. Lady claims it's been investigated and he's cleared. byronius Oct 2013 #1
Same thing for me. ret5hd Oct 2013 #2
Time to contact the media...... rdharma Oct 2013 #3
He needs a very public shaming! Cracklin Charlie Oct 2013 #22
Contact Rachael Maddow. nt arthritisR_US Oct 2013 #41
The one with a brain acts like an ass hankthecrank Oct 2013 #4
Serial killers start with killing animals for fun, like this grinning psychopath. He's not just a freshwest Oct 2013 #5
Revolting...I'd like to put that POS in that trap. joeybee12 Oct 2013 #6
"No rub spots on the hide, and he will make me a good wall hanger.” rdharma Oct 2013 #7
I have a Wolf Friend I'd like to introduce him to. Piece of Shit BlueJazz Oct 2013 #8
Me too Marrah_G Oct 2013 #35
Sick fucks like that deserve all the bad karma in the world. Rex Oct 2013 #9
Try leaving a comment with these folks, I did and also put that pic in my comments. Rex Oct 2013 #10
K&r n/t hankthecrank Oct 2013 #11
This Monster is in his office right now LeftOfWest Oct 2013 #12
Welcome to DU! CaliforniaPeggy Oct 2013 #14
Thank you for the welcome LeftOfWest Oct 2013 #16
welcome to DU gopiscrap Oct 2013 #18
Thank you LeftOfWest Oct 2013 #24
you're welcome hope you have fun here!! gopiscrap Oct 2013 #36
Thank You! graywarrior Oct 2013 #44
Diamond M Ranch Wolf killing scumbags here in Washington State LeftOfWest Nov 2013 #47
Post removed Post removed Sep 2014 #79
"liberal elite mentality" cyberswede Sep 2014 #80
Contact the NATIONAL OFFICES of USDA FS in D.C. rdharma Oct 2013 #13
sick F*CK! napkinz Oct 2013 #15
That peace of shit is smiling Unknown Beatle Oct 2013 #17
that is fucked up gopiscrap Oct 2013 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author damnedifIknow Oct 2013 #20
The "republican" type of person FoxNewsSucks Nov 2013 #66
I do write comments here on DU, but I am not that familiar with other parts of the site. MsPithy Oct 2013 #21
See post below from Kayucian with some helpful suggestions for taking action. . . . [n/t] stranger81 Nov 2013 #64
There's lots like him in the forest service 3Stones Oct 2013 #23
welcome to DU gopiscrap Oct 2013 #28
Since this is from spring of 2012 Aldo Leopold Oct 2013 #25
likely email 3Stones Oct 2013 #29
Thanks. much appreciated. riversedge Oct 2013 #31
I'll tell you 2naSalit Oct 2013 #32
Man, that's a lot of dead wolves. Aldo Leopold Oct 2013 #40
Thanks, 2naSalit graywarrior Oct 2013 #45
You're welcome. 2naSalit Nov 2013 #46
I could have gone all day without seeing that picture.... mike_c Oct 2013 #26
I'm sick to my stomach Auntie Bush Oct 2013 #27
I am dumbfounded. The wolf is in pain, bleeding and suffering and riversedge Oct 2013 #30
Me, too. Faygo Kid Oct 2013 #33
Yep. laundry_queen Nov 2013 #67
Sick Marrah_G Oct 2013 #34
Holy shit!!!!! Noooooooooo!!!! loudsue Oct 2013 #37
It's even sicker the wolf leg is in a trap which digs into the tissue hankthecrank Oct 2013 #38
Just horrible. yuiyoshida Oct 2013 #39
I hate fecks like him and I seldom speak in terms of hate! Grrrr .... arthritisR_US Oct 2013 #42
Given the circumstances of the photo, that makes for quite a sick smirk IDemo Oct 2013 #43
Horrible! Rhiannon12866 Nov 2013 #48
kick napkinz Nov 2013 #49
What kind of pathetic excuse for a man kills an animal on a chain in a trap? bullwinkle428 Nov 2013 #50
Anyone who would do this get the red out Nov 2013 #51
KKK hooded Vigilantes with American flag stand over dead wold--new article BillGibson Nov 2013 #52
Thanks! Their fb page is vile. graywarrior Nov 2013 #53
A Rallying Howl Kayucian Nov 2013 #59
totally disgusting gopiscrap Nov 2013 #60
welcome to DU gopiscrap Nov 2013 #61
My thanks. n/t Kayucian Nov 2013 #62
Thanks to both of you, Bill & Kayucian, and welcome to DU! stranger81 Nov 2013 #63
Colby Gines Wilderness Adventures, LLC Kayucian Nov 2013 #78
I'm a hunter. Our family eats what I kill. And this fuckwad makes me want to puke. 11 Bravo Nov 2013 #54
Hunting for food is one thing graywarrior Nov 2013 #55
Agreed. I'm not a subsistence hunter, but trophy fetishists turn my stomach. 11 Bravo Nov 2013 #57
We're being over run by deer in our area and they're dying of starvation graywarrior Nov 2013 #58
Horrific. And he takes joy in this? Pathetic & stupid. DirkGently Nov 2013 #56
What a fucking bloodthirsty loser Tom Ripley Nov 2013 #65
cruel pos Liberal_in_LA Nov 2013 #68
What a filthy, disgusting piece of human waste theHandpuppet Nov 2013 #69
He'll get his. n/t flvegan Nov 2013 #70
Let's hope! graywarrior Nov 2013 #71
I'm interested i learning more details about this man and the trapped wolf. Jenoch Nov 2013 #72
Go here, Jenoch. graywarrior Nov 2013 #75
I already saw that, it's a blog. Jenoch Nov 2013 #76
Dear God. That needs to stop NOW! Skip Intro Nov 2013 #73
That white snow is discolored. What is that? Is that BLOOD??? NYC_SKP Nov 2013 #74
what a disgusting human being. DesertFlower Nov 2013 #77

ret5hd

(20,511 posts)
2. Same thing for me.
Thu Oct 31, 2013, 06:33 PM
Oct 2013

Also claimed he is not a forest ranger but a usda employee.

Still, fuckin' disgusting.

 

rdharma

(6,057 posts)
3. Time to contact the media......
Thu Oct 31, 2013, 06:44 PM
Oct 2013

........ and put them in contact with the Public Affairs Officer of that Ranger District.

The District Commander shouldn't be allowed to just handle it "quietly" and "internally"!

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
22. He needs a very public shaming!
Thu Oct 31, 2013, 07:51 PM
Oct 2013

How could someone pose for a picture like that?

Completely disgusting.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
5. Serial killers start with killing animals for fun, like this grinning psychopath. He's not just a
Thu Oct 31, 2013, 06:48 PM
Oct 2013
Menace to wildlife, but Humans. He needs the full wrath of the Internet to come down on him. Not decent, not acceptable.
 

rdharma

(6,057 posts)
7. "No rub spots on the hide, and he will make me a good wall hanger.”
Thu Oct 31, 2013, 06:57 PM
Oct 2013
More on Wolf Killer and ID Forest Service Employee Josh Bransford: Another Modern Monster

Wolf Torture and Execution Continues in the Northern Rockies


by James William Gibson – March 28, 2012

Montana Anti-Trapping Group Gets Death Threat for Releasing Photos
On March 16, a Friday, a US Forest Service employee from Grangeville, Idaho, laid out his wolf traps. The following Monday, using the name “Pinching,” he posted his story and pictures on www.Trapperman.com . “I got a call on Sunday morning from a FS [Forest Service] cop that I know. You got one up here as there was a crowd forming. Several guys had stopped and taken a shot at him already,” wrote Pinching. The big, black male wolf stood in the trap, some 300-350 yards from the road, wounded—the shots left him surrounded by blood-stained snow. Pinching concluded his first post, “Male that went right at 100 pounds. No rub spots on the hide, and he will make me a good wall hanger.”

(The person in this photograph, Josh Bransford is a federal employee and public servant out of the Red River Ranger District on the Nez Perce National Forest in north-central Idaho. As a taxpayer, you have a right to call the Front Desk and complain about his behavior. Call for his resignation and/or ask that he be suspended without pay for a period of time for his actions 208-842-2245.)

All photographs were taken from Trapperman.com website are being reproduced here under Fair Use“Pinching” with the wolf he trapped that he wrote would make him “a good wall hanger.”
The Trapperman website went wild with comments. “That’s a dandy!! Keep at it,” wrote Watarrat. Otterman asked, “All the gray on that muzzle make a guy wonder how old he is or if it is just part of his black coloring.” Pinching’s picture of the wolf’s paw caught in the trap got special attention. “Is that the MB750 stamped ‘wolf’ on the pan?” asked one man. “Looks to be a perfect pad catch. Congratulations! Pinching confirmed the trap model and commented, “Oh an [sic] by the way, a wolf is a heck of a lot of work to put on a stretcher! Man those things hold on to their hide like no other!”

http://owstarr.com/2012/04/03/more-on-wolf-killer-and-id-forest-service-employee-josh-bransford-another-modern-monster/

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
35. Me too
Thu Oct 31, 2013, 08:37 PM
Oct 2013

Curled up at my feet at the moment. I can't imagine ever harming a wolf that wasn't a direct threat. let alone getting enjoyment from it.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
9. Sick fucks like that deserve all the bad karma in the world.
Thu Oct 31, 2013, 07:02 PM
Oct 2013

They delight in the suffering of other living things, as clearly can be seen here. That wolf is being tortured.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
10. Try leaving a comment with these folks, I did and also put that pic in my comments.
Thu Oct 31, 2013, 07:08 PM
Oct 2013
http://www.fs.usda.gov/contactus/nezperceclearwater/about-forest/contactus

Allowing something to suffer, because you can, is the true definition of evil.
 

LeftOfWest

(482 posts)
12. This Monster is in his office right now
Thu Oct 31, 2013, 07:18 PM
Oct 2013

I just 'talked' to him, he denies it all of course.

Number he is at right now:

Josh Bransford, Fire Management Officer, at the Red River Ranger District at (208) 842-2123

He will laugh it all off...scum of the earth.

Thank you for posting this here, I am off to make it even more viral.


edit for grammar, I am angry right now, apologies!


 

LeftOfWest

(482 posts)
16. Thank you for the welcome
Thu Oct 31, 2013, 07:27 PM
Oct 2013

This monster was so smug on the phone...I agree with your post 100%.

I will not stop on this one, the trapping is sickening enough, but the torture...no way. I will call and call and take it up with my US Rep at the next town hall.

Right out of the Sarah Palin sicko handbook.

 

LeftOfWest

(482 posts)
47. Diamond M Ranch Wolf killing scumbags here in Washington State
Fri Nov 1, 2013, 01:07 AM
Nov 2013

led to the stupid very un-necessary and disgusting slaughter of a Wolf pack here. Owner of the Ranch is an anti wolf right wing jerk. Lots of speculation he lured the Wolves onto his property in the first place so he could cry 'Wolf. He did and he got them slaughtered.

Link about a bit of this:

http://howlingforjustice.wordpress.com/2012/09/27/wedge-pack-slaughter-hangs-like-a-pall-over-washington-state/


Me and mine are very vocal about his, have been since Yellowstone Wolves in the 90's and before.

THANK YOU for posting this here, these forums are HUGE!

The monster torturer went from to denying it all when I talked to him to laughing about the 'poor wolf'. Then then came the standard wolves put cows through so much torture when they kill them. Enough.

I told him he was a despicable monster for his abhorrent behavior with these magnificent animals and I stand by that, no death threats, just threats to try and end his taking my tax dollars for his salary while he perpetrates this horrifying behavior.

Thank you again graywarrior. You are a Wolf Hero for putting this out here on these very big forums!

Response to LeftOfWest (Reply #47)

cyberswede

(26,117 posts)
80. "liberal elite mentality"
Mon Sep 15, 2014, 11:24 PM
Sep 2014


You could make your point without being insulting. On your first post, too. Congratulations.
 

rdharma

(6,057 posts)
13. Contact the NATIONAL OFFICES of USDA FS in D.C.
Thu Oct 31, 2013, 07:19 PM
Oct 2013
http://www.fs.fed.us/contactus/

Start with the media communications and public affairs offices........

The local Nez Pierce district office has already swept this under the rug and they are hoping to keep it quiet until it blows over.

Unknown Beatle

(2,672 posts)
17. That peace of shit is smiling
Thu Oct 31, 2013, 07:40 PM
Oct 2013

while the wolf is suffering and in agony. I'm so pissed off I'm fantasizing about punching that smile off his ugly mug and then setting off a trap on his leg! Peace of shit psychopath!

Response to graywarrior (Original post)

MsPithy

(809 posts)
21. I do write comments here on DU, but I am not that familiar with other parts of the site.
Thu Oct 31, 2013, 07:47 PM
Oct 2013

Is there any way to keep up with updates on this story? What numbers to call, up the chain of command above this POS sub human?

Where can we read updated accounts of what people have done to get this guy and his superiors fired? Suggestions what to do next?

Where should I post thoughts that I might have about solving this abomination, somewhere where we can get daily updates?

THIS SHALL NOT STAND! Yeah, shouting.

3Stones

(85 posts)
23. There's lots like him in the forest service
Thu Oct 31, 2013, 07:53 PM
Oct 2013

This story is quite old as I read it early last year. I can tell you after 25 years in the forest service there are many just like this guy there.
Pretty disgusting, yes.

3Stones

(85 posts)
29. likely email
Thu Oct 31, 2013, 08:23 PM
Oct 2013

jbransford@fs.fed.us

All forest service emails are first name initial, then last name @fs.fed.us.. If there's 2 employees with the same names they throw the middle name initial in there. This works for all the people your calling by phone in above posts.

2naSalit

(86,760 posts)
32. I'll tell you
Thu Oct 31, 2013, 08:27 PM
Oct 2013

since I know a bit about this story...

The guy was duly harangued, but he didn't lose his job. Yes, he works for the USFS and he wasn't the one using the wolf for target practice, that was a few other pukes doing it from their vehicle and the guy in the picture's friend called him to come and tend to the wolf. Sadly, in Idaho, Wyoming, Montana, Wisconsin and Minnesota trapping wolves is legal. In Idaho there's a half year season.

Wish folks had noticed this before the wolves were removed from federal protection a few years ago. Last year, almost every single wolf with a research collar in Yellowstone NP was killed by hunters sitting not far from the boundary of the park using calls. That was over twelve years of federal taxpayer funds for research (and some from nonprofits) down the drain for this "sport" The alpha pair from a pack I was watching for years were killed off early in the "season" last year... the forest has lost some of its allure for me around here because of it.

SO the guy in the picture got some serious blowback for posting his smirk online and then whined about the condemnation he got nation-wide. This did go viral but the folks who floated it online received death threats afterward. It's a dirty game out here and one needs to be careful about flaming. For the up-to-date tally and an equaling galling tale from this year's hunt so far you can peruse this site and learn about as much as you could from one web site...

http://www.thewildlifenews.com/

Most recent ugly humans story

What are we to make of the masked, American flag holding, Wyoming wolf killers?

http://www.thewildlifenews.com/2013/10/28/masked-wolf-killers/

Edited to add:

2013-2014 Wolf Slaughter
Idaho 88
Montana 45
Wyoming 74
Wisconsin 181
Minnesota 0
Michigan 0
TOTAL 388

Flame on...

2naSalit

(86,760 posts)
46. You're welcome.
Fri Nov 1, 2013, 12:43 AM
Nov 2013

Here's something everyone can do to help put an end to this behavior...


*Service Extends Comment Periods for Gray and Mexican Wolf Proposals, Reschedules Public Hearings, Adds Hearing in Arizona *



As a result of delays caused by the lapse in federal appropriations, the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service today announced rescheduled dates for the remainder of a series of public hearings on two proposed rules-one to list the Mexican wolf as an endangered subspecies and delist the gray wolf elsewhere, and the other to improve recovery efforts for the Mexican wolf in the Southwest. Comment period deadlines also are extended until December
17 to allow these hearings to take place within the public comment periods on the proposed rules.



The hearings will take place on November 19 in Denver, Colorado, November
20 in Albuquerque, New Mexico and November 22 in Sacramento, California.
Each will include a short informational presentation. The Service has also added a public information meeting and hearing in Pinetop, Arizona, on December 3. The hearings are part of the Service's continuing efforts to provide an open, comprehensive public process for the two proposed wolf rules and will provide the public a forum by which to register their views.



A formal notice of these hearings and the extension of the comment period will appear in *the Federal Register* on October 28.



To learn more about the proposed rules, view the draft *Federal Register*notice with the details of the public hearings, and for links to submit comments to the public record, visit www.fws.gov/home/wolfrecovery.



*The mission of the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service is working with others to conserve, protect and enhance fish, wildlife, plants and their habitats for the continuing benefit of the American people. We are both a leader and trusted partner in fish and wildlife conservation, known for our scientific excellence, stewardship of lands and natural resources, dedicated professionals and commitment to public service. For more information on our work and the people who make it happen, visit www.fws.gov. Connect with our Facebook page at www.facebook.com/usfws, follow us on Twitter at www.twitter.com/usfwshq, watch our YouTube Channel at http://www.youtube.com/usfws and download photos from our Flickr page at **
http://www.flickr.com/photos/usfwshq* <http://www.flickr.com/photos/usfwshq>
*.*

* *

-FWS-
***************************************************************************
News releases are also available online at http://onlinepressroom.net/fws/

Questions concerning a particular news release or item of information should be directed to the person listed as the contact. General comments or observations concerning the content of the information should be directed to Malcomb Barsella (malcomb_barsella@fws.gov) in the Office of External Affairs.


As citizens who object to this, let's do our duty and participate. These wolves belong to all of us.

loudsue

(14,087 posts)
37. Holy shit!!!!! Noooooooooo!!!!
Thu Oct 31, 2013, 08:53 PM
Oct 2013

How can ANY human being do that to a chained & helpless animal? How can any human being be so cruel, animal chained & helpless or not!!????

IDemo

(16,926 posts)
43. Given the circumstances of the photo, that makes for quite a sick smirk
Thu Oct 31, 2013, 10:54 PM
Oct 2013

but it should be noted, many hunters of other game animals seem to take delight in posing with their kills. I've lived in Idaho for over 40 years, and it's a phenomenon I have never understood - the giddy Christmas morning thrill of the kill.

get the red out

(13,468 posts)
51. Anyone who would do this
Fri Nov 1, 2013, 10:05 AM
Nov 2013

Is depraved beyond help and should be fired and publicly destroyed so far as further employment opportunities of any consequence.

BillGibson

(1 post)
52. KKK hooded Vigilantes with American flag stand over dead wold--new article
Fri Nov 1, 2013, 05:03 PM
Nov 2013

I have an update to Bransford from the same source in the Rockies.
See Earth Island Journal:

http://www.earthisland.org/journal/index.php/elist/eListRead/sorry_but_wolf_slaughter_is_not_american/

There is a photo of men wearing white hoods, holding an American flag, while standing above a dead wolf.

James William Gibson

Kayucian

(5 posts)
59. A Rallying Howl
Fri Nov 1, 2013, 06:39 PM
Nov 2013

Last edited Sat Nov 2, 2013, 11:58 PM - Edit history (1)



Welcome to state management. The above is the image at the center of Bill Gibson's latest article. The outfit that posted the image is killing wolves on public land in the Thorofare. Some of the wildest country in the contiguous United States, for contained therein is the farthest point from any road. The ignorantly hateful will hunt down wolves to the ends of the earth if we let them.

There is currently an official public comment period ongoing until December 17th where folks can state their opposition to a Nationwide gray wolf delisting proposal. Please consider doing so if you have not already. The above image is the stark reality of state management. And if this goes through from sea to shining sea, it will strip federal wolf protection even in states who have fledgling wolf populations trying to recover, and those with only one or two individuals dispersing through on quests to begin their own families.

Send a comment: http://www.regulations.gov/#!docketDetail;D=FWS-HQ-ES-2013-0073

Talking points: http://nywolf.org/components/com_wordpress/wp/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Gray-Wolf-Toplines-and-Commenting-instructions.pdf

There is also a public comment period closing on the same date for a proposed revision to rules governing Mexican wolf recovery. Whilst this southwestern population is the only one not currently being threatened with the removal of federal protection, it has been struggling due to mismanagement as well. There are only about 75 individuals and 3 breeding pairs left in the wild here in the US, and 2 in Mexico. It was projected by the USFWS that we would have 102 wolves and 18 breeding pairs by December 31, 2006, but they have been far too liberally "removed". They are an ancient form, amongst the first waves of Old World wolves to migrate into the country, and now they are amongst the rarest mammals on the continent.

You can send a comment for them here: http://www.regulations.gov/#!docketDetail;D=FWS-R2-ES-2013-0056

Talking points: http://www.mexicanwolves.org/index.php/news/1059/51/Act-Now-to-Ensure-Mexican-Wolf-Recovery

Gray wolves were previously delisted in Idaho and Montana through a rider on a must pass budget bill back in April 2011. This was the first time that any Endangered species had ever been delisted by Congressional action. Prior to this wolf advocates were winning in the courts, because science was and is on our side. It took this underhanded political strategy to force this outcome.

Later gray wolves in Wyoming were delisted by U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service Director Dan Ashe after his nomination to be director of the agency was essentially held hostage by Senator John Barrasso (R-WY) with the intention of forcing a wolf delisting decision. Previously, even the USFWS had deemed their kill-on-site "management" plan to be inadequate. That's how bad it is. Politics as usual. Interior Secretary Ken Salazar (Cowboy Kenny) met with Wyoming Governor Matt Mead and eventually Dan Ashe was appointed and wolves were delisted (read about this juicy filth, here: http://trib.com/news/state-and-regional/article_f7b22b5f-c71f-52be-b0e9-324c9c33fa3b.html)

Minnesota, Wisconsin and Michigan were soon to follow. Michigan's first killing season is swift approaching, beginning on November 15th. Wisconsin is in its second killing season, "Just 16 days into Wisconsin’s second annual wolf season, half of the state’s six harvest zones have closed." Timber wolves are being killed at a rate of 12-13 per day.

More than 1,700 wolves have been killed since ESA protections were taken away in five states. in less than three years. Please help stop this rush toward functional extinction at best. http://www.biologicaldiversity.org/campaigns/gray_wolves/infographic.html

If you would prefer to speak up for wolves in person, there are four hearings coming up where you can oppose the USFWS's delisting proposal and their flawed Mexican wolf recovery plan:

Tuesday, November 19, from 6 p.m. to 8:30 p.m. at the Paramount Theatre, 1621 Glenarm Place, Denver, CO.

Wednesday, November 20, from 6 p.m. to 9 p.m. at the Embassy Suites, Sandia Room, 1000 Woodward Place NE, Albuquerque, NM.

Friday, November 22, from 6 p.m. to 8:30 p.m. the Marriot Courtyard Sacramento Cal Expo, Golden State Ballroom, 1782 Tribute Road, Sacramento, CA.

Tuesday, December 3, 2013, from 6 p.m. to 8:30 p.m. at the Hon-Dah Conference Center, 777 Highway 260, Pinetop, AZ 85935 (3 miles outside of Pinetop at the Junction of Hwy 260 and Hwy 73).

For more information: www.wildearthguardians.org/Stand4Wolves

Please feel free to pass any of this information along, and thank you for any efforts you make for the wolves!

stranger81

(2,345 posts)
63. Thanks to both of you, Bill & Kayucian, and welcome to DU!
Fri Nov 1, 2013, 10:40 PM
Nov 2013

There's quite a bit of interest here in this issue -- sure hope you'll keep us updated as you learn of any additional developments (either about this scumbag or others).

Kayucian

(5 posts)
78. Colby Gines Wilderness Adventures, LLC
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 08:22 PM
Nov 2013

This is the outfit that led these white hooded killers to the wolf along Mountain Creek:

Colby and Codi Gines
150 Road 5N
Powell, WY 82435
(307) 272-5367
colby@cgwildernessadventures.com

11 Bravo

(23,926 posts)
54. I'm a hunter. Our family eats what I kill. And this fuckwad makes me want to puke.
Fri Nov 1, 2013, 05:15 PM
Nov 2013

That's about all I have.

graywarrior

(59,440 posts)
55. Hunting for food is one thing
Fri Nov 1, 2013, 05:31 PM
Nov 2013

I have hunters in my family up in the northern part of the country. Hunting for sport and trophy is vile.

My SIL stopped dating a guy when she found out he entered trophy hunting lotteries. I don't understand that kind of mentality.

11 Bravo

(23,926 posts)
57. Agreed. I'm not a subsistence hunter, but trophy fetishists turn my stomach.
Fri Nov 1, 2013, 05:51 PM
Nov 2013

And by "not a subsistence hunter" I mean that I don't need to hunt to put meat on our table; but I enjoy the field and the woods, and we all love venison.

graywarrior

(59,440 posts)
58. We're being over run by deer in our area and they're dying of starvation
Fri Nov 1, 2013, 06:06 PM
Nov 2013

It makes sense, but I still could never shoot one.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
72. I'm interested i learning more details about this man and the trapped wolf.
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 12:01 AM
Nov 2013

Does anyone have a link to a news organization with a story and some facts so I can read more about it?

I am a hunter but am generally opposed to killing predators.

Skip Intro

(19,768 posts)
73. Dear God. That needs to stop NOW!
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 12:08 AM
Nov 2013

What the hell?!

I'll call tomorrow, and again on Monday.

Sickening fucking bastards.

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