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YES. The Koch Brothers should be arrested and charged with sedition and/or treason. | |
3 (30%) |
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NO. The Koch Brothers should not be arrested on charges of sedition and/or treason. | |
7 (70%) |
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Jeff In Milwaukee
(13,992 posts)Will we EVER stop with this nonsense? Change the laws on lobbying. Overturn Citizens United.
They are not guilty of sedition and they REALLY aren't guilty of treason. This dead equine has been flogged sufficiently.
cali
(114,904 posts)Agschmid
(28,749 posts)Shrike47
(6,913 posts)They have a right to their opinions, as stupid as they are.
cali
(114,904 posts)shortsighted is the kindest thing to be said for those folks voting yes. and here's the thing I find most troubling: I know that some of those voting yes are smart cookies.
And if you arrest the Koch Brothers, holding to that standard- or whatever it is- who else do you have to arrest? All the teabaggers in the House? Ted Cruz, Mike Lee in the Senate?
What about Governor Walker?
Mike DeWine? The board of the Heritage Foundation?
Scalia and the other wingnut Justices?
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)Just kidding
Actually shaking my head at the 70+ % voting yes.
dairydog91
(951 posts)Nevermind that pesky Constitution.
lostincalifornia
(3,639 posts)a worse fate for them
Buns_of_Fire
(17,181 posts)lostincalifornia
(3,639 posts)RKP5637
(67,111 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)Hell, why not just send them via tumbrel to the guillotine? And fuck the Constitution. Fuck trials or a defense. Or hey, how about just lining them up on the edge of a lime filled pit and shooting them in the head by the thousands. because if you believe that the Koch Brothers deserve arrest for sedition and treason, you HAVE to believe that thousands upon thousands are equally guilty.
what the fuck is wrong with you people?
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)They are bad people... But then some people dive into the deep end.
JEFF9K
(1,935 posts)I'm pretty sure that Fox News and talk radio trick millions of people into voting Republican. Why isn't that considered ELECTION FRAUD?
cali
(114,904 posts)no, of course it's not election fraud.
cali
(114,904 posts)and answer a few questions
If the Koch brothers should be arrested for sedition and/or treason, shouldn't thousands of others who are engaging in the same shit also be arrested?
What precisely (that we know of) have the Koch Brothers done that rises to sedition and/or treason?
what's to stop wingnuts from making the same argument about people on the left- that they're guilty of sedition/treason? (and they have)
Are you serious about this or just kind of goofing or blowing off steam?
If you're serious, do you see as potentially setting a bad precedent?
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dairydog91
(951 posts)Near as I know, the House passed several budgets, which funded almost everything except ACA implementation. Why shouldn't Senate Democrats and/or the President be arrested for sedition on the grounds that they refused to pass those budgets?
sir pball
(4,743 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)Ranchemp.
(1,991 posts)When the hell is this shit gonna stop?
They're assholes, but they're in no way seditious assholes, much, much less treasonous assholes.
cali
(114,904 posts)no different from teabaggers who think that Soros should be arrested for sedition/treason.
ignore the Constitution as long as it's to achieve your goals? check and check
HappyMe
(20,277 posts)Being an asshole isn't against the law.
cali
(114,904 posts)democracy in this country.
Unfortunately, there is NOTHING FUCKING ILLEGAL (bold meant for mindless idiots who think that arresting them is legitimate) in their methods- insofar as we know them
HappyMe
(20,277 posts)trash democracy. But as you said, they haven't done anything illegal. I think all this sedition and treason talk is pretty goofy. I don't understand why people would consider that a good plan. Sooner or later they may fuck up royally, then charges can be brought based on the fuck up.
gopiscrap
(23,761 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)what do you charge them with? And as is real life, you have to be specific- you can't just say "Seditious Conspiracy" because what they allegedly did has to rise to to actions that rise to the legal definition.
I've read the statutes and there's a reason it won't happen: It has no basis in the law; charging them with sedition/treason- not to mention that logically, if you charged the Koch Brothers, you'd have to charge Antonin Scalia.
In any case, this should be filed under 'f' for frivolous fantasy
gopiscrap
(23,761 posts)Mz Pip
(27,451 posts)They are operating within the law. They may be arrogant .01% ers but unless laws are changed they are free to buy political influence.
LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)Anyone advocating this hasn't thought it through.
DontTreadOnMe
(2,442 posts)no one seems to care enough to boycott them.
longship
(40,416 posts)I won't bother with the citation since this particular horse has been beat to death already here. If people are too lazy to read the thing, and too ignorant of its historic context to understand why this isn't treason or sedition, any citation would likely be wasted.