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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsOne of my daughters said that in 4th grade, her textbook said
that Republicans are for freedom, and Democrats think the government should control them.
I wish she'd told me that in 4th grade. We were on our way home from something and she saw a political sign and asked why Republicans are for freedom but Democrats aren't. And I said, "WHAT???????" So she told me that's what her 4th grade textbook said.
This kind of stuff makes me feel like I should homeschool. Yeah Republicans are for the freedom of not paying taxes even if that causes people to die of starvation and of treatable medical problems. But they aren't for us to have the freedom to completely own our own bodies. They aren't for the freedom of people to marry the person they love. I can think of plenty of freedoms they are opposed to.
She read that two years ago and it stuck with her that well and that long. That is the power of owning the textbook market.
Mika
(17,751 posts)I'd like to know the actual full quote. Thanks.
gollygee
(22,336 posts)so I don't know if it was a complete quote or what she took from the lesson the textbook was teaching, but it's pretty scary to me regardless. She held onto that from a textbook she read two years ago. And she's been raised in a family of liberal Democrats, but she held onto that anyway.
Mika
(17,751 posts)Just wanted a 2nd hand version, not a 3rd hand from a 4th grader. Thanks.
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)When they were going over the lesson. Either way, it wouldn't be too hard to get your hands on the textbook and check. Know any 4th graders?
gollygee
(22,336 posts)notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)JHB
(37,161 posts)Can she remember a phrase (not necessarily that one)? Do you remember what the cover looked like? It could help on a search for the book.
My wild-ass guess is that the book didn't actually say that, but it may be the impression she got (possibly with the "help" of an editorializing teacher).
gollygee
(22,336 posts)with some comment about Republicans giving power to the people.
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)And that the teacher (shame on them) made it seem so true that your daughter remembers it as being in the book?
Our memories work that way, and teachers to a fourth grader are bastions of knowledge and accuracy.
This one should be fired.
LWolf
(46,179 posts)or seen every text book used, of course, I have taught in more than one, over a span of decades; one state being California, which is big enough to drive text book company offerings.
I've never seen a textbook for 4th graders that addressed political parties in any way. I've never seen a set of state content standards for 4th grade that mentioned political parties anywhere.
Not that I haven't seen some ridiculous stuff in text books. Nothing like that, though.
gollygee
(22,336 posts)gollygee
(22,336 posts)I think it might actually be this one http://www.teachtci.com/programs/elementary/social-studies-alive-textbook/our-community-and-beyond/table-of-contents.html
LWolf
(46,179 posts)that's a normal part of most curriculum at 2nd/3rd grade ("Our Community," expanding into state-wide material in 4th.)
I guess it's all about how citizenship is addressed; that link doesn't give access to actual text.
gopiscrap
(23,761 posts)I would get the Democratic Party of your state to sue for that book to be oou the window. The problem is that almost all text books are published in Texas.
cali
(114,904 posts)gopiscrap
(23,761 posts)my suggestion was for if that was actual fact.
kiva
(4,373 posts)but it's very unlikely the textbook said anything like this...she may be remembering the general impression she took away from the class.
cali
(114,904 posts)I'm not accusing your daughter of lying. she picked that up somewhere, I just don't buy that it was in her 4th grade history book.
In any case, it shouldn't be hard for you to find out for sure. Just find out the name of the textbook that was used from the school.
alfie
(522 posts)Regardless of why she came away with that understanding, that was conveyed to her in some way and needs to be debunked.
ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)I would look up the teacher's website (if the school is online, which most are) and see if she has the book listed. Most teachers do.
DirkGently
(12,151 posts)I had a History teacher in 8th grade who informed us, apropos of nothing in the text, that Halloween was devil worship.
I was beyond being influenced by such nuttery at that point, but my parents and I had a good laugh at her out-of-nowhere attempt to make crazy talk part of the lesson.
No idea how the other students took it, though.
Baitball Blogger
(46,736 posts)Yet, they want to be able to enforce it on others.