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Snake Alchemist

(3,318 posts)
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 06:45 PM Mar 2012

Lottery Winner Defends Use of Food Stamps

People love stories about someone winning the lottery and then giving the money away. They're less likely to feel fondly about Amanda Clayton, who won $1 million in the Michigan State Lottery but is still collecting food stamps.

"I thought that they would cut me off, but since they didn't, I thought maybe it was OK because I'm not working," Clayton, 24, told Local 4 news in Detroit.

Back in December, a woman in Washington State fell under scrutiny when it was revealed she was receiving state economic benefits even though she lives in a $1 million waterfront home on Lake Washington.

Clayton, who says she owns two homes and a new car, receives $200 a month in food assistance from the state-issued Michigan Bridge Card, which is meant to benefit lower-income residents in the nation's eigth most economically depressed state.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/michigan-woman-still-collecting-food-stamps-winning-1-201751693.html

Stay classy.

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Lottery Winner Defends Use of Food Stamps (Original Post) Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 OP
First let's go after the rich people who are getting far bigger welfare benefits than this. Zalatix Mar 2012 #1
I think we're meant to believe that most recipients are in fact undeserving lottery winners. Robb Mar 2012 #2
That's it, time to end food stamps. Somebody abused them and messed it up for everybody. MidwestTransplant Mar 2012 #13
Yep. And Welfare recipients all drive Cadillacs, IIRC Matariki Mar 2012 #23
It's like I say about medicare fraud: A little fraud never hurt anyone. nt Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #5
No No look at this post lunasun Mar 2012 #21
And single moms. And sluts. Zalatix Mar 2012 #24
I heard a story about a woman on welfare who drove a Cadillac. Warren Stupidity Mar 2012 #3
I heard that story too! KansDem Mar 2012 #4
Actually, I met her. Zalatix Mar 2012 #8
I wonder if she ever heard of social security. sakabatou Mar 2012 #40
That woman has two Cadillacs that she drives! madinmaryland Mar 2012 #16
Meet the new republican poster child sadbear Mar 2012 #6
It's like that doctor down in Texas they've accused of medicare fraud. Just trying to distract. nt Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #7
You mean the Tea Party doctor who got busted for Medicare Fraud? Zalatix Mar 2012 #10
They're just trying to denigrate doctors and health care reform. nt Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #20
Wait a Minute lacrew Mar 2012 #31
Or this ProSense Mar 2012 #18
Just false accusations meant to bring about voter ID requirements. nt Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #22
I thought Food Assistance was means tested........... Swede Atlanta Mar 2012 #9
In most states they are required to report any kind of change... cynatnite Mar 2012 #19
Oh, I see you are back! CTyankee Mar 2012 #11
Yes, and $1600 a month does not add up to $30,000 a year......that is wingnut math... MindMover Mar 2012 #12
A repuke has put forth a bill preventing individuals like this from getting assistance... cynatnite Mar 2012 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author seaglass Mar 2012 #15
She is learning how to be a 1 percenter: mooching off of the state bluestateguy Mar 2012 #17
Bingo. nt Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #26
First of all ProSense Mar 2012 #25
I believe it is her comments that are incredulous. nt Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #27
Yeah ProSense Mar 2012 #28
I think that's two different women they're talking about Skittles Mar 2012 #29
You're right. Thanks. n/t ProSense Mar 2012 #30
That is exactly what I was thinking when I saw this. joeglow3 Mar 2012 #36
So one person libtodeath Mar 2012 #32
Ew. BlueIris Mar 2012 #33
About half went to taxes, so let's say she has $500,000 in the bank. Nye Bevan Mar 2012 #34
No, you can't have 500,000 in the bank and get food stamps nobodyspecial Mar 2012 #35
I'm a caseworker Puzzledtraveller Mar 2012 #37
Which state? nobodyspecial Mar 2012 #42
Do they not still take assets into consideration? Marrah_G Mar 2012 #38
Benefits pulled joeglow3 Mar 2012 #39
Good. And I hope she has to pay back nobodyspecial Mar 2012 #43
And people will care more about this than the welfare that big oil collects... cynatnite Mar 2012 #41
the exception - not the general way things are dana_b Mar 2012 #44
 

Zalatix

(8,994 posts)
1. First let's go after the rich people who are getting far bigger welfare benefits than this.
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 06:47 PM
Mar 2012

Start with the banksters.

This woman is so far down on the priority list it ain't even funny.

Robb

(39,665 posts)
2. I think we're meant to believe that most recipients are in fact undeserving lottery winners.
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 06:48 PM
Mar 2012

That's got to be the take-away.

Matariki

(18,775 posts)
23. Yep. And Welfare recipients all drive Cadillacs, IIRC
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 07:04 PM
Mar 2012

You you how to read the 'news' correctly.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
21. No No look at this post
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 07:02 PM
Mar 2012

This is what you should really be angry about
This women is the real cause of all our economic problems dont cha know

 

Zalatix

(8,994 posts)
8. Actually, I met her.
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 06:55 PM
Mar 2012

She was an elderly Tea Party member who I met at a rally screaming "Don't socialize my Medicare!!!"

sadbear

(4,340 posts)
6. Meet the new republican poster child
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 06:54 PM
Mar 2012

They've actually got a face to put with their bullshit assault on the social safety net.

 

lacrew

(283 posts)
31. Wait a Minute
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 07:25 PM
Mar 2012

Wasn't one of the cornerstones of the healthcare bill supposed to be ending Medicare fraud?

Heck, just a few weeks ago, there was this story: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/02/14/1064770/-Kudos-to-Obama-Admin-Attack-on-Medicare-Fraud-Recovering-4-1-billion-

Is there something immoral about stopping fraud?

 

Swede Atlanta

(3,596 posts)
9. I thought Food Assistance was means tested...........
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 06:55 PM
Mar 2012

If that is the case the fact she wasn't working is no reason to continue to collect food assistance. Was she actively looking for work? That should be a requirement for any able-bodied recipient. Further if this is program is means tested then there should be a provision to say that should the recipient's financial situation change within say a 5-10% margin, they are obligated to advise the relevant authority to have their eligibility re-evaluated.

If true this is exactly the kind of stuff that both pisses me off as well as provides fodder for the right wing cannon against programs designed to serve the truly needy.

cynatnite

(31,011 posts)
19. In most states they are required to report any kind of change...
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 07:01 PM
Mar 2012

There is nothing in this report that says she did or did not report it. It sounds to me this was more of ignorance than an attempt to defraud.

cynatnite

(31,011 posts)
14. A repuke has put forth a bill preventing individuals like this from getting assistance...
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 06:59 PM
Mar 2012

In most states you are required to report a change in income, assets, and all that. You have 10 days here in TN. If you do not, you can get in a load of trouble.

If she did report it and the state did nothing, the issue is with the state and not necessarily her.

Not only that, if she was not informed that she was required to report this it may still be on the state. It sounds to me like this was more out of ignorance and not a real attempt to defraud.

Response to Snake Alchemist (Original post)

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
17. She is learning how to be a 1 percenter: mooching off of the state
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 07:00 PM
Mar 2012

I do hope nobody steps up to make an overly intellectualized, overly complicated defense of what she is doing here.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
25. First of all
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 07:07 PM
Mar 2012

"Lottery Winner Defends Use of Food Stamps"

...who care if she "defends" it? It's not like she has any say in being cut from the program now that she's exposed.

(Removed text, misread the piece)

Her story has already caught attention locally, where state Republican Rep. Dale Zorn has sponsored a bill preventing individuals like Clayton from taking state financial assistance.

Cut off her assistance and issue the appropriate penalty. End of story.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
28. Yeah
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 07:11 PM
Mar 2012

"I believe it is her comments that are incredulous."

...me too. She's likely a fraud, just like the story. Still, easy remedy.

Skittles

(153,226 posts)
29. I think that's two different women they're talking about
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 07:16 PM
Mar 2012

still, Ms Clayton may as well hang onto her food stamps because her mentality makes it clear she will be broke in no time

 

joeglow3

(6,228 posts)
36. That is exactly what I was thinking when I saw this.
Thu Mar 8, 2012, 02:33 PM
Mar 2012

That money will be long gone in a few years.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
34. About half went to taxes, so let's say she has $500,000 in the bank.
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 10:20 PM
Mar 2012

About the best interest rate you can get these days is 1%, so that would give her $5000 of income annually, which isn't a lot. If the food stamp rules are based on income (as opposed to capital), after the first year (in which she would have $1mm of reportable income) she should certainly be eligible for food stamps if she has no other sources of income.

nobodyspecial

(2,286 posts)
35. No, you can't have 500,000 in the bank and get food stamps
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 10:35 PM
Mar 2012

Although the rules vary by state, benefits are means tested. You usually won't be forced to sell a modest home, but your car's value is limited to about $2,000 and you can only have a small amount in the bank. Any assets that can be liquidated, like stocks, must be expended as well.

This lady is abusing the system and will have to repay what she has received and could face jail time. Just because the state sends you a money, it is not yours if you don't qualify. For example, if you get unemployment and are then ruled ineligible, you have to pay that money back.

If she didn't report the change in status, it's her fault.

Puzzledtraveller

(5,937 posts)
37. I'm a caseworker
Thu Mar 8, 2012, 02:50 PM
Mar 2012

Our state recently waived the resource limit for SNAP. There was not a worker I knew who was not in a uproar about it. We knew it would be abused. Also, why some here may feel sympathy for the woman, the same rule applies to anyone. We have seen clients who were contenders for the 1% club who were able to receive benefits precisely because of the waiver of the resource limits.

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
38. Do they not still take assets into consideration?
Thu Mar 8, 2012, 02:53 PM
Mar 2012

When I was on food stamps there were alot of rules about what you could and could not have.

dana_b

(11,546 posts)
44. the exception - not the general way things are
Thu Mar 8, 2012, 03:12 PM
Mar 2012

This gets lots of attention and then some, especially those on the right, can whoop and holler that the welfare system is corrupt and should be done away with. I just don't want to feed into their craziness.

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