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Moonwalk

(2,322 posts)
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 06:47 PM Mar 2012

The Right-Wing Meme Generator: Their Most Dangerous and Effective Weapon!

This is not a new observation, but it is, I think one of the most important observations on the war we fight for hearts and minds: The fact is, we can fight and fight and sometimes win, but we will never succeed against the right-wing's ability to capture hearts and minds until we slow, stop, counter or outright kill their Meme-Generating Machine. Which is why I believe that every one of us should focus on ways of countering it. We should send word to all our friends and allies, to the cleverest people we know and say: "Give us your best ideas! Now while we still have time. Now while they're not looking."

Because, I promise you, there is no winning this war otherwise.

I bring this up because in another thread, someone mentioned the fact that Rush had said we were "paying for Fluke to have sex" and that this was bogus. Which, of course, it is. Tax dollars do not go to give women contraception. And yet, even after Rush has been slapped on the wrist for Fluke, that lie is still being repeated and believed. Just like the lie that Fluke talked about her sex life at that meeting rather than talking about her friend with the ovarian cyst. These lies are everywhere. What the hell? Shouldn't it be clear as clear that this was about health insurance not taxes?

Oh, but this little lie is more devious than you think....It not only creates a lie about contraception, aiming to undermine those who aren't in line with certain "Christian" values (i.e. women who use it are sluts), but it also anticipates any argument for public healthcare. Should Democrats get into congress and pass universal health care paid for the government...well, then it would be true that tax payers are paying for women's contraception and, therefore, for them having sex. Wouldn't it? Yes, my friends, a seed has been planted for later. Even if we can chop off its head now, it will grow back the second Medicare-for-all is mentioned. That's the beauty of memes, they not only can last forever, but re-grow like weeds when needed.

The primary point, however, is this: the lies have taken on a life of their own, and the truth can't keep up. This, alas, is the brilliant ploy of the right. It has been their primary ploy since it's first big success in winning Bush jr. the election. Here's how it works (and again, this is nothing new). Some right-winger creates an easy, simple lie. A Santorm or a Rush or an O'Reilly. The right-wing media machine takes it up and repeats on all their media outlets, tossing out that message like chum to sharks. Unable to resist, other news outlets say it as well. It is thus transformed into a Meme, sticking and obscuring the truth, being believed even when the facts say it's false.

Which is why, by the way, you'll hear the Republicans and pundits saying the darnest things. "Girl Scouts" promote communism!" "Planned Parenthood creates prostitutes!" "Obama is wasn't even born in the U.S.....!" And "Occupy wants to take away your money and give it to the poor!" They say anything and everything because not only are they almost never punished for these outrageous lies (Rush was depending on this when he called Sandra a slut), and not only is a lie that is said (or shouted) with confidence taken as truth, but because they're throwing stuff at the wall and hoping it sticks. They say and say these things knowing that any one could go viral and be believed over the truth.

And what do you know? Rush may be suffering from calling a woman a slut this time, but his lie about contraceptives being paid for by taxpayers is sticking! It's out there and being believed.

Let's not fool ourselves fellow Dems. These people have mastered this trick and it's the most dangerous weapon they have in their arsenal. Not only because it works, but because it always puts the truth-tellers on the defensive. We end up having to keep saying, "That's not true!" while the lie, so easy to grab hold of, infects more and more people and becomes harder to eradicate. Ask people why we went to war against Saddam and Iraq and most will still say it was because they were behind the attack on 9-11.

We can fight and fight, win some battles, but until we find a way to nip this right-wing meme-generator in the bud or get our own truth-generator that works better and faster, we will lose the war. So I urge you all to put on your thinking caps. It's not just people we need to defeat, it's dangerous and evil memes. Let's make this one of our top priorities; we can't, obviously, put an end to lies, but I think we can find ways to slow, stop or counter the insidious, right-wing meme machine. Let this be the year we do that.

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The Right-Wing Meme Generator: Their Most Dangerous and Effective Weapon! (Original Post) Moonwalk Mar 2012 OP
A lie can make it half way round the world... izquierdista Mar 2012 #1
Excellent! RevStPatrick Mar 2012 #2
THe problem bongbong Mar 2012 #3
"...find ways to slow, stop or counter the insidious, right-wing meme machine" Zenlitened Mar 2012 #4
Here's a meme to use against them - call them unnatural, abnormal. bigmonkey Mar 2012 #5
goes back way further than *bush 2... tk2kewl Mar 2012 #6
Of course creating such memes is way older than Bush 2. Hell, I'm sure we could go back.... Moonwalk Mar 2012 #7
in that case i would at least take it back to the early 90s tk2kewl Mar 2012 #8
What we need to do is discredit the lie-tellers. backscatter712 Mar 2012 #9
 

izquierdista

(11,689 posts)
1. A lie can make it half way round the world...
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 06:51 PM
Mar 2012

before the truth can even put its shoes on. --Mark Twain.

 

RevStPatrick

(2,208 posts)
2. Excellent!
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 07:12 PM
Mar 2012

You'd think that with all the smart people on "our side," we could pull this off.
Yet somehow, we just can't seem to counter the evil memes.

Puts thinking cap on...

 

bongbong

(5,436 posts)
3. THe problem
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 08:25 PM
Mar 2012

(Most) Dems & Liberals hate lying.

Most, if not all, repigs LOVE lying if it helps "beat" the "evil libruls!"

Zenlitened

(9,488 posts)
4. "...find ways to slow, stop or counter the insidious, right-wing meme machine"
Thu Mar 8, 2012, 12:03 AM
Mar 2012

Agreed, this needs to be a top priority.

Should've been for about two decades, now, at least.

I think the first step is for us all, especially those in a position to make themselves heard, to be willing to call a lie a lie.

That goes for the Democrats we elect as leaders, certainly.

No, they can't go spouting off like we do on a message board.

But they need to recognize moments when the studied etiquette of the Senate floor, for example, just doesn't get our message out.

Not when it's up against the kind of deliberate, unrelenting, reality-warping propaganda the rightwing spews daily, exactly as you describe.

bigmonkey

(1,798 posts)
5. Here's a meme to use against them - call them unnatural, abnormal.
Thu Mar 8, 2012, 04:20 AM
Mar 2012

My conviction is that one of their really basic memes is that their actions are all natural or normal.
They say, or imply, that:
they get angry and interrupt others because they are normal people driven to their limits by "crazy liberals".
they never have to give evidence for their beliefs because their beliefs are those of normal people.
their mistakes are the mistakes of normal people, and so are innocent mistakes.
their religious beliefs are those of normal Americans.
English is the normal language people speak in the U.S.
war is unavoidable because it's a normal human activity.
education is something that only people who are "different" find useful.
greed, no matter how excessive, is a normal human behavior.

And so forth.

So, use variants of the words unnatural and abnormal whenever possible about the right wing.
Say things like:
The republicans have an unnatural fixation on other people's sexual lives.
They are abnormally belligerent.
Normal people consider education to be beneficial.
Their religious beliefs are way outside the norm for the Christian tradition.
It goes against human nature to be so hateful toward women.

 

tk2kewl

(18,133 posts)
6. goes back way further than *bush 2...
Thu Mar 8, 2012, 11:11 AM
Mar 2012

think McCarthy and Reagan, commies welfare queens and Willie Horton

Moonwalk

(2,322 posts)
7. Of course creating such memes is way older than Bush 2. Hell, I'm sure we could go back....
Fri Mar 9, 2012, 01:05 AM
Mar 2012

to cavemen and find it. However, the modern meme machine that works so efficiently in getting out such lies and sustaining them started with Bush 2. That's when Fox news announced Bush the winner and all other media outlets, who had been proclaiming Gore the winner, ignored their own facts and went with Fox's flow. That's when the right knew they had the perfect weapon against anything democratic or progressive.

Hence, I stand by my point. Creating such memes may be a very ancient thing, but disseminates them quickly, efficiently, and lingeringly is not. Modern news outlets don't even fact check such memes before they report it, which they used to do prior to Fox. And that is my point, not that doing this is anything new: now any right-wing meme creator has a well-oiled machine he or she can use, working, gratis, for them and working against us. That wasn't always true.

 

tk2kewl

(18,133 posts)
8. in that case i would at least take it back to the early 90s
Fri Mar 9, 2012, 11:04 AM
Mar 2012

and clear channel's acquisition of tons of radio stations to broadcast the right wing lies. there is, however, no doubt that fox represents the pinnacle of the lie factory effort.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
9. What we need to do is discredit the lie-tellers.
Fri Mar 9, 2012, 11:56 AM
Mar 2012

With a few of the bastards, we've been successful at this. Many, though not all people (you'll never get the mouth-breathers in the authoritarian right to see reason...) have come around and started to recognize that George W. Bush and his cronies, Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, FOX News etc. have been lying to them.

That should be our tactic. Discredit the liars. That's why sites like Media Matters are so important. When a person sees that a particular source has been telling blatant falsehoods multiple times, they're going to disregard that source.

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