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JFK assassination: CIA and New York Times are still lying to us
Fifty years later, a complicit media still covers up for the security state. We need to reclaim our history
By David Talbot - Wednesday, Nov 6, 2013 http://www.salon.com/2013/11/06/the_jfk_assassination_we_still_dont_know_what_happened/
All this artful dodging about the murder of President Kennedy began, of course, nearly 50 years ago with the Warren Commission, the blue-ribbon panel that was appointed by President Lyndon Johnson not to get at the truth, but to lay the dust (in the words of one commissioner) on all the disturbing rumors that were swirling around the bloody events in Dallas. Two new books take us inside the Warren Commission sausage factory, and show in often shocking detail how the august panel got it so terribly wrong. Soon after the Warren Report was released in September 1964, polls began showing that the American people rejected its conclusion that Lee Harvey Oswald was the lone assassin of the president ......
Zen Democrat
(5,901 posts)They have stood up for the Warren Report for 50 years and effectively closed the case on Day 2. Three members of the Warren Commission refused to sign off on the Report until promised to have their dissent included in the Report. They were assured it would be by Allen Dulles and John J. McCloy. We have the transcripts of the meeting where that happened, which were released in the 1990's with the AARB after Stone's JFK. But ... Russell didn't realize for three years after the Report was issued that he had been hoodwinked by Allen Dulles. We have Russell and Cooper on tape, and Hale Boggs was actually the one who told Jim Garrison that there was a massive cover-up, not Sen. Long as portrayed in JFK. Sen. John Sherman Cooper says in his tape recording that Rep. Boggs didn't buy the single bullet theory in any shape, form, or fashion.
It's been a scam with the major media sources putting up a wall to deflect any criticism of the Warren Commission. The entire Report is about framing Oswald and does not include the witnesses who heard shots from behind the picket fence. That's where the crowd ran immediately thereafter. That's what people told reporters that day. The rifle found on the 6th floor was a Mauser. The Mannlicher-Carcano was supposedly ordered by A. Hiddell via mail order with a postal money order that was never cashed. You haven't heard this in the NYTimes or the WaPo or on any major media outlet. Their own credibility is worth more to them than the truth. But it's out there, and not hard to find.
You can take any aspect of the Kennedy case, from Oswald's life, the autopsy, the Secret Service detail, the doctors at Parkland Hospital, the taking of Kennedy's body from Parkland at gunpoint, the paraffin test, the fingerprint "evidence" and so on and so on, and this whole coverup enterprise cracks like a ripe melon in July.
Kennedy was a sitting duck in that triangle of death. Oswald had been working at the depository for over a month. The motorcade was changed to go by his workplace because he was the designated patsy. How could that be a coincidence? The attorney general of Texas said the day after Kennedy's funeral that he had information that Oswald was an informant for intelligence agencies and was paid a monthly salary. Isn't it strange that 50 years after the assassination, the FBI won't release the tax returns of Lee and Marina, or his mother Marguerite. But the Warren Commission did include a section in the exhibits with x-rays of Jack Ruby's mother's teeth. Jack Ruby begged Warren to get him out of Dallas so he could tell his story. Warren told him that wouldn't be possible.
Truth-seekers? No, truth-killers. In Warren's defense, he didn't want any part of this and voice tapes of his conversations with LBJ make it clear that LBJ blackmailed him into the job with Hoover information, and also by claiming that millions of people would die without a coverup.
This case has been stinking for 50 years. The Kennedy family didn't believe it. They thought there had been a coup d'etat. At least Jackie and Bobby did. People are talking now. Bobby died too and Jackie left the country for a number of years after marrying the richest bastard in the world for personal protection.
One of these days we'll know everything except who pulled the trigger, and at this point we know that whoever those men were, they certainly didn't live long after the "big event."
Dulles (fired from DCI by JFK a year earlier), Gen. Curtis LeMay, Gen. Ed Lansdale, James Jesus Angleton, and possibly Richard Helms -- these are the people who made it happen.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)Dallas journalist Jim Marrs pointed out Bogghs was "The most vocal critic among Commission members ... "
On April 1, 1971, House Majority Leader Boggs delivered an attack on J. Edgar Hoover ... the FBI had adopted 'the tactics of the Soviet Union and Hitler's Gestapo.'
Boggs vanished on October 16, 1972, while on a military junket flight in Alaska ... no trace of the airplane or of Boggs has ever been found.
Sen. Mark Begich's father was on the same plane!
--House Majority Leader Hale Boggs, in a speech before Congress, 22 April 1971
--Hale Boggs, speaking to an aide, cited by Bernard Fensterwald, Coincidence or Conspiracy?
It is a myth that the Warren Commission was united in its conclusion that a lone assassin killed President John F. Kennedy. On the seven member Warren Commission, there were three dissenters: .....
Initech
(100,104 posts)There was a Bill Hicks bit where he said: "I believe that when you become president they put you in a room with these twelve industrialist capitalist scumfucks that really run the country. They fly you to New York City and put you in a high rise office somewhere and they turn out the lights. Next a projection screen comes down and this guy with a cigar says roll tape. And it's footage of the Kennedy assassination from an angle that you've never seen before. And when the video is finished:
"Any questions?"
"No just what my agenda is."
"First we bomb Baghdad."
"You got it.""
I'm sure that's how it happens.
bobclark86
(1,415 posts)I thought conspiracy theories were not allowed here... What's next, the Magic Bullet theory? "Back and to the left?"
You guys sound like you're FReepers talking about Benghazi. You know that, right?
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)bobclark86
(1,415 posts)1/4 of Americans think 9/11 was an inside job perpetrated by GWB and the Jews... and coincidentally, 1/4 of Americans are retarded.
I wish I was still in school, so I could write a book report comparing and contrasting JFK and Benghazi conspiracy theorists...
EOTE
(13,409 posts)shit? They're retarded as well? I tend to think that the ones who buy into the official story surrounding JFK are the dim bulbs. Either that or they're authority worhshippers. Certainly not critical thinkers, that's for sure.
bobclark86
(1,415 posts)The jump seat (where the governor was sitting) is NOT at the same height as the rear seat, and it is also closer to the inside of the car. The "magic bullet" went in a straight line from the book depository.
When you start spouting off about people being killed for dissent, as well as other stuff that is easily dis-proven, you sound like an idiot, like FReepers and "Ancient Astronaut Theorists"
Please take this conspiracy theory bullshit to the conspiracy theory group. That's what it's there for.
EOTE
(13,409 posts)You are in the minority here and in the entire U.S. with your view, so you can take YOUR conspiracy bullshit elsewhere. Do you ever get tired of spouting out nonsense? "When you start spouting off about people being killed for dissent, as well as other stuff that is easily dis-proven" Holy strawman, Batman! Are you ever able to win an argument that you haven't made up yourself? You're not going to find many of the authority worshipers you're looking for here. It's always nice to see how incredibly militant your types are.
bobclark86
(1,415 posts)the two-shooter theory and the killing of a member of Congress to cover it up. No strawman involved.
And I love how I'm an authority-worshipper now. Lovely use of an ad hominem attack, speaking of logical fallacies.
EOTE
(13,409 posts)You do know how this works, right? The person you respond to is the one you're talking to. Again, if you need to make up arguments in order to have something convenient to knock down, your argument is threadbare. You use an appeal to populism to denigrate a huge group of people and then lash out stupidly when that same appeal to populism is used against you. And yes, the ones who constantly make excuses for the destruction of our democracy are authority-worshipers. No doubt about that.
stopbush
(24,396 posts)RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)Only because people like you post in them.
The rest of us are interested in the story. Posts like yours are not welcome. But hey, you want to be embarrassing, it's a free country.
hootinholler
(26,449 posts)It's not CT, and a fairly good list of reading before the 50th anniversary.
Berlum
(7,044 posts)Holly_Hobby
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zappaman
(20,606 posts)That's George Bush!
No doubt at all!
Finally, we know for sure!
Where did you find this amazing picture clearly showing George Bush at the assassination???
Holly_Hobby
(3,033 posts)SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Ask the BFEE to learn the reason "Why?"
http://metamorphosis.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3853817
duffyduff
(3,251 posts)I suppose he's made a lot of money peddling this garbage, but the truth remains there was no conspiracy in the JFK/Tippit killings.