Ghostbusters was sung by Ray Parker Jr.

...there's your rape culture, right there.

Egad that's horrible. I hope New Zealand has some avenues for redress now that the media has taken up the cause.

and as for being sons of cops: "the apple doesn't fall far from the tree"!

but I'm getting quite tired of the "joke" comments in response to these things.

Just my feeling. I don't think it helps at all and it's just tiring to have to read them. I wish we could just tackle the subject in a straightforward manner. It's not funny, even though I know you didn't mean it as a real joke. But it's still injecting a joke into a serious matter.

Sadly, it's not a joke at all. I probably should have explained it, but I hoped people would get the reference.

gives it a little more reason for being there.

digusting. young girls drugged with alcohol to unconscious. and he is talking about her taking any kind of action. pig. fuckin pig.

thanks for clarifying.

something like that as a "joke" in the heading and I think it's something people should refrain from doing.

That's why I cushioned my comment to you.

Thanks for your explanation. I think it's probably better to just say that someone said that rather than place it out there that way, but that's because of what I mentioned above.

daughter. your sister. grabbed by these rapists. the bottomfeeders of this world. scum. and know... this is who we are after. this is who we try to protect. this is the awareness we want people to have. this is why we yell so loud and so often in a world where known groups of rapists, rape our girls. put the videos up for boys and grown men to get off on. to humiliate the girls further.

shouldnt we be angry?

shouldnt we be outraged?

what normal, responsible human being would NOT be angry, outraged, disgusted.

this is what we are talking about.

am i being civil enough? knowing that people in position to take these bottom feeders down, do nothing. parents knowing their boys are doing this do nothing. a society that sits there and does nothing.

I hope the New Zealand media is able to keep the pressure up long enough to get the police to do their jobs.

don't deserve breath in their lungs, and certainly don't have the sensitivity and kindness God gave a crab.

What a bunch of hateful losers these kids are.

and cut her rapist's penis off because it was an instrument of violence.

If Hell exists, it's for scumbags like these.

Boys will be boys, won't they?




How does New Zealand deal with sociopaths?

the boys and men are having to get unwilling, live bait to take it that much further, just to get excited.

i picked your post, unfairly. so ignore. or whatever.

which was great for us Yank Sailors, because we treated them with respect. The women weren't used to that.

I always thought New Zealanders were better than that. I guess I'm wrong. In any case, these rapists went outside of the norm of any culture's behavior. Just atrocious, criminal and cruel behavior that they are *proud* of. I don't get the "being proud of being a nasty human being" element of it.

I have never met such a friendly bunch of people. Locals would invite me to their homes for Dinner, because they saw that I was a Stranger...the same thing happened to me in OZ.
I think it goes back to the early period when most of the population were sent by the British for whatever reason and Women were treated as Prostitutes. Old habits die hard.

That dark underbelly of History rears its Head.

I was 22; fresh out of the army, just released from Walter Reed AMC, all healed up, and not particularly pleasant to be around. I can fucking promise you that every one of these little shitstains that I could have put my hands on would have been curb-stomped, and then as they wallowed around in the gutter looking for the fragments of their teeth I would have kicked them in the nuts. And after that, I would have gotten nasty.
It wouldn't have been legal, but it sure as shit would have been satisfying.
As I said, I'm an old man now, and times have changed, but I can't help but hope that some Kiwi decides to take care of business if these little fucks skate due to family connections.

society needs men like you, 11 Bravo, willing to stand up for women and men both and say "This is not how a man acts."

Men don't do this kind of thing. Animals do this kind of thing. Thank you for voicing your opinion, and it is appreciated.

into the anuses of other males in order to establish dominance. Just saying ...

I pointed it out to you. You now resort to "totally expected", as if I believe that this sort of behavior should be accepted among homo sapiens.
But you like to pick fights, and you could give a flying fuck about what you're fighting about. Apparently 'totally expected. lordy (sic)" is a winning argument in your world.

but on this, I feel you are misguided. What is "feeling male" to you, exactly? I'm female, so I have no idea what that encompasses.

i saw that AFTER i posted to you. what do they show our boys, being a man is in this culture? sexual dominance. sexual superiority. this si what our boys are taught today a man is. not character. honesty. integrity

but.... sexual conqueror.

and i like you, too. lol.

today. But it's what I would have done then, (and would probably try to do again today). They're my sisters, and that's how I was raised.

raised to not be assholes and domineering rapists.

That tends to lead to men that are upstanding in their community, they help people, and don't hesitate to do the right thing. Many women have that trait, too, and I applaud them just the same. Women and men that do the right thing aren't different at all. We just care, to state it plainly.

NOW

I assume rape is illegal in New Zealand. If I'm wrong then I will be even more shocked.

So why is it that a Facebook page with videos depicting an illegal act - with a human victim, including rape, which of course is sexual - cannot be taken down by some sort of order? What the fuck makes FB so untouchable?

Then in the physical world, why were the police not able to do anything? Surely they could identify the perps, that's the entire reason the boys posted the videos, for "bragging rights". So why can't they do something? The videos are evidence, does the victim have to come forth?

Lastly, who the fuck is raising these neanderthals? To me this is an example of the negative side of the internet. I think being "cool" on the internet has really changed kids' behavior for the worse and parents need to learn to talk to their kids about how real these things are and that they are dealing with real people even though they don't see the impact around them in their physical lives, the victims are real, not just internet "actors".

because they don't want to be the next victims.

What other explanation is there to call these vile specimens of humanity "cool dudes"?

ya know.... lol