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ismnotwasm

(41,991 posts)
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 05:31 PM Nov 2013

'Women Voters' Aren't Monolithic: Terry McAuliffe Can Thank Black Women For His Win

On Tuesday night, as Democratic candidate Terry McAuliffe eked out a win over Republican Ken Cuccinelli in the Virginia gubernatorial race, both the media and reproductive rights organizations heralded his victory as a win for and by women. Exit polls revealed that while 45 percent percent percent of men voted for McAuliffe, 51 percent percent percent of women did, revealing a gender gap of six percentage points. But if we dig deeper, we begin to see a recurring trend within that gender gap and the gender gap of recent presidential elections: it is women of color, particularly black women, who help drive it.

The gender gap in voting patterns is nothing new. It first emerged in 1980, when it was revealed that Ronald Reagan had won the presidency with more votes from men than women. In fact, the Center for American Women in Politics shows that a gender gap has been present in every single election since the presidential election of 1980. Overall, women tend to vote more Democratic, and men tend to vote more Republican. Hence, the gender gap.

Yet, as we all too well know, women are not a monolith, and their voting patterns reflect that.

Women are not quite the cohesive voting bloc that political scientists have seen with African-Americans, Hispanics/Latinos or members of the LGBTQ community. Pundits, pollsters and politicians alike often opine about which way the "women's vote" will go in any given election, rhetorically framing women as a cohesive voting bloc despite evidence to the contrary. Because women are such a large group and constitute the majority of the American electorate, they continue to garner significant media coverage and political speculation. Additionally, the gender gap is not nearly as pronounced as the partisan divide between white voters and black and Latino voters.

In post-election cycles, the gender gap can become yet another way to reinforce the mythical narrative of the monolithic women's vote.

Much has been made about the gender gap in both of President Obama's elections. In 2008, the gender gap was 7 percentage points, despite the presence of Sarah Palin as the vice-presidential nominee on the Republican ticket. The gender gap then notably increased in 2012, to 10 percentage points in favor of President Barack Obama over Republican nominee Mitt Romney in what was heralded as a women-dominated election. Fifty-five percent of women voting for Obama compared with only 45 percent percent of men. President Obama's re-election was largely credited to women voters who overcame his deficits among men.

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'Women Voters' Aren't Monolithic: Terry McAuliffe Can Thank Black Women For His Win (Original Post) ismnotwasm Nov 2013 OP
He can also thank the ones who voted for him and then lied about it to their husbands Warpy Nov 2013 #1
That's so sad I don't know where to start ismnotwasm Nov 2013 #3
I know Warpy Nov 2013 #6
Which Virginia towns are NOT white supremacy havens? raging moderate Nov 2013 #2
Norfolk or Hampton Roads or Charlottesville Areas TheOther95Percent Nov 2013 #4
Richmond metro is probably cheaper than any of them. MacGregor Nov 2013 #12
Distances there aren't really that great Warpy Nov 2013 #7
Ism, you're on a GD tear! BainsBane Nov 2013 #5
Face it, GD can be a mosh pit at times Warpy Nov 2013 #8
Well, it's a story, I'll make it very short. ismnotwasm Nov 2013 #9
Good for you! BainsBane Nov 2013 #10
Kudos. David Zephyr Nov 2013 #11
+1 ismnotwasm Nov 2013 #14
AA & Latino ladies do, in fact, deserve a LOT of credit for Terry Mac's win. AverageJoe90 Nov 2013 #13

Warpy

(111,277 posts)
1. He can also thank the ones who voted for him and then lied about it to their husbands
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 05:43 PM
Nov 2013

and everybody they know after getting their marching orders from some fundy minister.

But no, most women in that situation don't risk the fiery pit for disobeying gawd and voting for a Democrat instead of for some fundamentalist crazy who gets off on rape by proxy via an ultrasound dildo.

Warpy

(111,277 posts)
6. I know
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 07:20 PM
Nov 2013

and the saddest part is that some will confess and be "churched," held up as a source of shame in front of the entire congregation.

It's one of the absolute worst aspects of modern (and some old time) religion.

raging moderate

(4,306 posts)
2. Which Virginia towns are NOT white supremacy havens?
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 05:46 PM
Nov 2013

It looks as if my husband and I will be moving next year to Virginia from Northern Illinois, to be near children and grandchildren. That's if we can unload our old half-paid house. We kind of need a little town. Obviously we can't live in their rich Arlington neighborhood (well, it looks rich to me). And if we wind up in one of these deep-red all-white towns, we may have bad things happening to us. Are there inexpensive places with lots of black people and sane white people?

TheOther95Percent

(1,035 posts)
4. Norfolk or Hampton Roads or Charlottesville Areas
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 06:29 PM
Nov 2013

Of course, I'm in NYC so the real estate prices look inexpensive from my vantage point. Houses here usually start around $500K and that's for a small house.

MacGregor

(155 posts)
12. Richmond metro is probably cheaper than any of them.
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 09:30 PM
Nov 2013

I mean, sure, it's a deeply unsexy location, but it's affordable, and it's not quite two-stray-blades-of-grass-from-being-totally-paved-over yet. And it being centrally located makes escaping to NoVA, Hampton Roads or Charlottesville for the day pretty easy (barring I-64 or, especially, I-95 shenanigans, of course).

Warpy

(111,277 posts)
7. Distances there aren't really that great
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 07:27 PM
Nov 2013

so think about Maryland, too. Some places near the city are quite reasonably priced and look like the kind of human rainbow I've always insisted on being part of. I can't speak for anybody's sanity, but the insane ones generally keep their traps shut so it's all good.

You won't find the type of little town you're describing with all the white folks on one side of the freeway and all the black folks on the other until you're considerably south of there, south of Richmond.

Your children will be your best guide of where to live. If you've got a half paid off house in NY, you can probably afford one for cash in parts of southern Maryland and northern Virginia.

BainsBane

(53,035 posts)
5. Ism, you're on a GD tear!
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 07:19 PM
Nov 2013

It's great to have your voice in here, but I am wondering how you came to think differently about participating in GD?

Warpy

(111,277 posts)
8. Face it, GD can be a mosh pit at times
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 07:28 PM
Nov 2013

and some people are afraid of it.

I've always had a hide like a rhino because I cut my political teeth in Boston.

ismnotwasm

(41,991 posts)
9. Well, it's a story, I'll make it very short.
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 07:41 PM
Nov 2013

I am not by nature polite, although I am by nature altruistic. Go figure. I'm very blunt. I tone it down on-line because I understand how misunderstandings can happen. So I'm very careful. I was a child of the street, and that's like my first language. Now years and an education away, it still resonates with me. So I avoid certain arguments that goes nowhere.

Recent events gave me a decision; to either leave, or increase my participation.

I decided to increase my participation.

I still plan on being polite. (The alternative ain't pretty) I'm still able to find common ground with those who honestly seek it, in fact skilled at it. But I won't be silenced.

David Zephyr

(22,785 posts)
11. Kudos.
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 08:43 PM
Nov 2013

As a "child of the street" myself, I totally get it. It is like my "first language, too". Dumpster diving, surviving without family day after day for years sharpens one's insight and also leaves little regard for the niceties that dress up bullshit.

Post away. I'm reading.

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
13. AA & Latino ladies do, in fact, deserve a LOT of credit for Terry Mac's win.
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 09:34 PM
Nov 2013

Good post, Ism. Even if Obenshame manages to hang on to his ill-deserved post, the Repubs are probably all shaking their heads in disgust or swearing in anger tonight.....

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