...for a bullshit reason that PALES in comparison to Lara Logan's eff-up.

Thanks

Ask Blind BS?

The network also commissioned an independent investigation that resulted in a report more than 220 pages long. That wasn't to investigate Bush. It was to investigate Rather's reporting.

and the conflict of interest is delish. There is no recovery from these lies - not that they had a shred of credibility left.

Hack Logan should be fired but so should her producers and the other greedy conflicted and corrupt scumbags.

... (alleged letters about Bush's alleged failure to meet his National Guard obligations) and Moore's fact-checkers advised Moore to pass on them, which Moore did.

IIRC, the facts that Rather alleged were documented, but the documents he cited may have been fake. It was the old "cover up the facts by circulating phony documents so that by discrediting the documents you can deny the facts" routine.

There are no supporting facts re Benghazi

I searched for information when I found he had moved to Houston to establish his residency for governor and found many articles about his personal life and his military life. By the time he started running for president the information was scrubbed from the internet. He went into the deserve to avoid military service in Vietnam, something many others was not able to do.

flapping now!

He was on this like white on rice.

we hear that out of his mealy mouth

Totally agree with OP.

by FBI souces. Then the conflict of interest with the CBS owned book company was exposed. Earlier today they recalled the book. It's an absolute mess.

I think a high poobah at the CIA might have outed "Jones" as a pathological liar who said he was safe in his bed until it was all over for the official report---the one he could get jailed over if he lied about his whereabouts.

Personally, his story about "scaling a 12 foot wall" would have been enough to pin my bullshit meter, it says he's read too many Tom Clancy novels.

The real problem with all this is that "60 Minutes" has long been regarded by many people as one of the few really objective broadcast news "magazines" left. Running this pack of lies gave them credence just because of the place they were run.

This is why heads need to roll: the producers who passed on it, Logan who reported it as fact, and most of all, the corporate punk who insisted they needed to pander to right wingers. Those heads need to roll publicly.

pecking order. In that highly competitive business, refusing because of morals or any such reason was a career-ender. Especially coming on the heels of the "journalists need not tell the truth" story. Who knew?

From:
http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/rand-paul-hired-as-breitbart-columnist-110813

Oh, and not to pile on, CBS, but shutting Dan Rather out of your coverage of the 50th anniversary of the assassination of JFK, when Rather happens to be one of the dwindling group of reporters who actually witnessed the murder in broad daylight of a president of the United States, is an act of towering chickenshit. Shame on you twice.

while trying to fugg up Dan Rather. The irony is breath-taking.

Wonder how Rather will respond.

why I don't bother watching their news. As long as they ignore Dan, there is no point and even today.. if they got Dan back it would still be pointless.

from the Chicken Bull Shit Network

You've set new DU standards with that term, n2doc. You should be proud.

Nothing says it like it really is than "An Act of Towering Chickenshit"

It wa Charles Pierce, at the link. But agree,

Could also stand for
Conservative Bullshit Sanitizing

And please don't tell me you think it came from a 1970s era typewriter.

I think the memo was an accurate reproduction of an original. I believe that the secretary of the man who wrote the memo said it was accurate as to the content.

CBS interviewed Marian Carr Knox, a secretary at Ellington Air Force Base from 1956–1979 and Killian's assistant on the dates of the memos. Although Knox felt the memos reflected the truth about Bush's alleged service failures,[89] she also stated she did not type the memos, they were not written by Killian, and that she had no firsthand knowledge of Bush's time in the Guard.[91] Knox said, "The information in here was correct, but it was picked up from the real ones," she said. "I probably typed the information and somebody picked up the information some way or another."[92] The New York Times' headline, including the phrase "Fake but Accurate," became a widely used derisive comment from right-leaning critics of CBS.[93][94]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killian_documents_controversy



Posted 9/14/2004 10:17 PM



Secretary: Memos are forgeries
By Jim Drinkard and Dave Moniz, USA TODAY
WASHINGTON — The former secretary to a Texas Air National Guard officer who purportedly wrote memos critical of President Bush's pilot service said Tuesday that the documents are forgeries but they appear to reflect memos her boss wrote and kept in a locked desk drawer.

Marian Carr Knox told the Dallas Morning News after viewing copies of the disputed memos, "These are not real," and that "the information in here was correct, but it was picked up from the real ones." She declined to be interviewed late Tuesday, but her son, Pat Carr, confirmed her comments.

The newspaper said that Knox, 86, had precise recollection about dates, people and events. She was critical of Bush, whom she called "unfit for office."

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/nation/president/2004-09-14-memos-forgeries_x.htm

Bush had big problems when he was in the reserves, Others went to Viet Nam, served and came home or died. Neither Bush nor Cheney ever served yet they sent so many to Iraq. Selfish, egotistical, spoiled brats.

My husband served 4 years.

When Bush lost his wings, he would not give a reason for it.

That was the story!!!

Bush's record stopped being the issue and everyone started to talk only about whether 1970s typewriters had proportional fonts.

that's going to keep happening until the 'left' stops giving those stations a free speech free ride.

of its talk show hosts? I'm all for debunking those assholes' bullshit, but I can't really see a constitutional way to silence them.

we have to stop giving them a free speech free ride- it's a monopoly fed by corporate think tanks and regurgitated by paid liars and fools protected by call screeners and prompted by paid callers. but the 'left' assumes a fix needs to be legislated or radio stations have to be bought. neither will work at this point IMO, but there are ways the 'left' can beat RW radio.

ignoring them as we have been for 25 years is a total fail.

i think if limbaugh's attacks on anita hill had gotten a reaction like the sandra fluke reaction we wouldn't have clarence thomas and limbaugh and RW radio wouldn't have gone unnoticed - the US today would be very different.

i have been suggesting a few main treatments for RW radio

1) it works because their work is unreadable and practically invisible until it's everywhere and too late to refute. use of transcription software to automatically transcribe the national and main local talkers and make that available for searching for repetition and memes. state dem headquarters should be doing that for local talkers now, before the 2014 elections so they can respond to lies from state and national talkers referencing their candidates and issues. if there are copyright problems the material can maybe be scrambled somehow so it can still be searched - the context is understood. knowing what they're saying and how much and making it readable will make it possible to shame politicians and media that repeat the lies/distortions and will allow the left to know what it's doing in real time instead of playing catch up all the time.

2) students faculties and communities need to demand their state funded colleges look for apolitical alternatives to broadcast their sports. see link in sig. 28% of limbaugh stations piggyback the community cred and advertising power of more than 70 major universities. RW radio won't survive if those unis start honoring their mission statements. RW radio depends heavily on those associations and it needs to end. https://sites.google.com/site/universitiesforrushlimbaugh/

3) progressive orgs need to get serious about RW radio- it undoes much of what they do. whenever we start making progress - local or national- it is noted and the think tanks design PR ops to counter it - starting at the RW radio level. they need to start including RW radio in their strategies. much activism and donations are wasted because there is no challenge to RW radio.

4) we need peaceful protesting at stations that attack our representatives and lie about progressive efforts, etc. protests can be ignored now because one local blowhard reaches tens of thousands, attacking protestors and distorting their aims and issues for long after the protests are over. most major protests should be including RW radio stations- those are GOP teabagger HQ's- and media and politicians will notice.

Those seem like reasonable responses.

I like #2 the most, because it doesn't have the potential to bring publicity to the RW talk scene. Limbaugh or O'Reilly would love to have protesters picketing their stations.

Never thought I would see the CBS that brought us Walter turn into a trash can.

They're just the ones who have been caught.

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Of course, there are shows worth watching...The Newsroom, science channel, and a few others....but as you well know,
it's a soft-spoken intelligent voice in a hurricane of BS.

Precisely!

of bill Clinton's genitalia.

It's one thing to make an honest mistake or even be a victim of a hoax. It's incompetent but forgivable. Publishing the book from the liar you are promoting on your program without disclosure is unforgivable. CBS News is less than worthless.

Solution: Make news media tax exempt like religion.

Any organization that gathers and disseminates public affair news and/or opinion should be tax exempt as long as they devote 15% of their content to outside review/rebuttal and they have no other business interests outside of public affairs news.

rather and others at CBS were pushed out because of pressure on CBS that was created mainly because the right has 1200 coordinated and UNCHALLENGED radio stations to blast the country with lies. at that time that unified megaphone was working for rove.

the national and local radio gods talked for weeks about typewriters, etc.

logan would be gone by now if the same radio monopoly was ordered to go after her.

only when the 'left' stops giving the right's best weapon a free speech free ride will it stop getting its ass kicked.

From what I know, Bush never attended either a USAF or Texas state Officer Training School...just the Basic Training at Lackland AFB, San Antonio, that ALL non-prior service enlistees into the Air Force, ANG or AFRES must endure. I'll remember THAT for the rest of my life!

That would mean his commission was not Federally-recognised...in other words, outside Texas the bars on his shoulders didn't mean a thing.

And why did he never promote beyond First Lieutenant? When I was in the ANG, Second-to First Lieutenant-to Captain was almost automatic unless you did something really stupid.

Of course, he disobeyed a direct order to get his flight medical updated, a violation of Art. 92 UCMJ.

His conduct, were it at MY ANG unit when I was there, would have, at best got him a "re-education" session in the Wing King's office, and quite likely a boot out the front gate with a BCD in his back pocket.