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Amerigo Vespucci

(30,885 posts)
Fri Mar 9, 2012, 12:44 PM Mar 2012

If the right wingers REALLY want to keep pushing that Bill Maher button...

...maybe it's time to do a little Googling on the inappropriate / sexist / mysogynist / racist / religiously intolerant / homophobic comments of some of the fine men and women who have also written $1 million checks for their Republican candidates of choice.

DU agrees on some things, but not others...and in all of the time I've been here, I don't think I've ever read "You know what? Bill Maher seems like he's a really nice guy."

He's not! He's a fucking ASSHOLE! He is one of the most self-absorbed, narcissistic, loud-mouthed assholes in the "entertainment industry." It's ALWAYS "all about Bill Maher," 100% of the time, 24/7.

“We have been the cowards, lobbing cruise missiles from 2,000 miles away. That’s cowardly. Staying in the airplane when it hits the building, say what you want about it, it’s not cowardly.”

http://www.snowspotmedia.com/2010/09/11/the-comments-about-911-that-cost-bill-maher-his-job-video/


I don't think he's "funny" most of the time, I thought his comments about Liberals "looking bad" for not accepting Limbaugh's "apology" were utter HORSESHIT, but...I think President Obama should keep that $1 million check. FUCK Fox "News" and anyone else calling for him to return it to Maher.

And if the Republicans REALLY want to stir up some shit, let's dig up some "interesting" comments from every Republican donor who ever wrote a check. This could be FUN.

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If the right wingers REALLY want to keep pushing that Bill Maher button... (Original Post) Amerigo Vespucci Mar 2012 OP
As I recall, Maher's show (Politically Incorrect) was cancelled when he said the above. denverbill Mar 2012 #1
i agree and was going to reply with the same frylock Mar 2012 #13
No...Limbaugh is the issue, not Maher. godai Mar 2012 #2
It looks like two stations have dropped him: sabrina 1 Mar 2012 #5
Good...hope it's the start of a trend. godai Mar 2012 #7
Glen Beck was one of the most tsuki Mar 2012 #34
EXACTLY! Bringing up Maher is a distraction, formally known as a Tu Quoque fallacy. backscatter712 Mar 2012 #9
The check has nothing to do with Obama. EC Mar 2012 #3
We all know that Limbaugh is a misogynist creep, but so is Maher. Beacool Mar 2012 #4
There are distinct difference between the two. YellowRubberDuckie Mar 2012 #30
Maher went out with Coulter????? Beacool Mar 2012 #36
I don't know for sure. YellowRubberDuckie Mar 2012 #42
Well, the guy is gross. Beacool Mar 2012 #43
Fuck limpball libtodeath Mar 2012 #6
Lets treat Limbaugh and Maher equally. SalviaBlue Mar 2012 #8
+10 Cleita Mar 2012 #10
How about adding Hannity, O'Reilly, Savage, every Fox correspondant ever... Initech Mar 2012 #45
I think Bill Maher is a great guy; a funny comedian; fighting for real liberal causes. DutchLiberal Mar 2012 #11
Some people who probably haven't seen him for 10 years have apparently banned him for life. godai Mar 2012 #16
Like "we all know" that OWS are "douchebags"? Union Scribe Mar 2012 #46
What part of BOYCOTT THEM ALL does the "get off Maher's back" crowd NOT UNDERSTAND??? Zalatix Mar 2012 #12
It's dilutes the efforts against Limbaugh. godai Mar 2012 #15
No it won't. You are totally, absolutely wrong about that. Zalatix Mar 2012 #17
You are totally, absolutely wrong. And the facts bear this out. godai Mar 2012 #18
You have no facts. Your argument has no rationality. You have no case. Zalatix Mar 2012 #21
What is the cause, Evangelicalism? Shankapotomus Mar 2012 #28
Evan-what? How about moral consistency. Oh wait, let me guess Zalatix Mar 2012 #32
Okay. Shall we Shankapotomus Mar 2012 #40
I wrote facts, rationally, making a strong case. You just choose to disagree, angrily. godai Mar 2012 #33
You're okay with sexism as long as it comes from the Left. Gotcha. Zalatix Mar 2012 #35
No, what dillutes it is having to waste effort Union Scribe Mar 2012 #47
I can. One is a sickening misogynyst and the other is not. DutchLiberal Mar 2012 #19
Yeah. I am probably the only DU member here who complains about attacks on men. Zalatix Mar 2012 #22
BAAAAHAhahahahahaahaha!! Far from it, dude, far from it. RadiationTherapy Mar 2012 #29
I want to ask you.... do you think male bashing doesn't exist? Zalatix Mar 2012 #31
All such things exist. RadiationTherapy Mar 2012 #41
"stereotypes that we already have ourselves, and that's what makes it funny" Union Scribe Mar 2012 #48
I guess we should boycott Shankapotomus Mar 2012 #27
People here are falling for this BS too. Initech Mar 2012 #14
You tell 'em!!! Sexist remarks are okay as long as they're done by people on our side, dammit! Zalatix Mar 2012 #23
No they aren't. Initech Mar 2012 #39
Show me where it's working in the GOP's favor. Zalatix Mar 2012 #44
That's because some of "us" keep trying to defend hypocrisy nt Union Scribe Mar 2012 #49
Yup, news media has now shifted to key words "Hypocrisy & Double Standard" countryjake Mar 2012 #26
Exactly - the double standard meme is in full effect for the GOP and its working for them well. Initech Mar 2012 #37
The right wing just wanted to make an example out of Maher in case a trickle of applegrove Mar 2012 #20
I am a woman and I totally agree! n/t arthritisR_US Mar 2012 #24
I've been watching Bill Maher since PI and Blue_Roses Mar 2012 #25
i agree with all you say. nt seabeyond Mar 2012 #38

denverbill

(11,489 posts)
1. As I recall, Maher's show (Politically Incorrect) was cancelled when he said the above.
Fri Mar 9, 2012, 01:23 PM
Mar 2012

Seems particularly odd given the shows title. And I actually agree with the statement. And I'd say the same about kamikaze pilots in WWII versus American pilots doing normal bombing runs. You can call it a lot of things, but cowardly isn't a word I would pick.

godai

(2,902 posts)
2. No...Limbaugh is the issue, not Maher.
Fri Mar 9, 2012, 01:26 PM
Mar 2012

By going past both of them to identify others plays into the RW's hands. The focus is on Limbaugh, getting him off Armed Forces Radio and making him think twice about doing this again.

No stations have dropped Limbaugh. They're all waiting for this to blow over and then resume business as usual. Bringing up Maher, who, I think is most times funny, who is a COMEDIAN, just helps them deflect pressure from Limbaugh.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
5. It looks like two stations have dropped him:
Fri Mar 9, 2012, 02:08 PM
Mar 2012
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/05/rush-limbaugh-radio-stations-drop-show-fluke_n_1322609.html

Two radio stations announced Monday that they have dropped Rush Limbaugh's show from their stations in the wake of the talk show host's offensive comments about law student Sandra Fluke.

WBEC in Pittsfield, Massachusetts, along with KPUA in Hilo, Hawaii, both said that Limbaugh's words — he called Fluke a "slut" and a "prostitute" for her advocacy of insurance coverage of birth control, along with other incendiary remarks — had crossed a line for them.

godai

(2,902 posts)
7. Good...hope it's the start of a trend.
Fri Mar 9, 2012, 02:45 PM
Mar 2012

But, I think this will blow over, his fanatical listeners will demand the show, sponsors will return. But, to dilute this with Bill Maher comparisons, like him or not, just muddies the waters. Maher is a comedian. He's not on Armed Forces Radio. Limbaugh likely won't be even pulled from Armed Forces Radio. The right wing would scream censorship!

tsuki

(11,994 posts)
34. Glen Beck was one of the most
Sat Mar 10, 2012, 09:37 AM
Mar 2012

popular shows on cable talk and the sponsors did not return. In truth, some left all cable talk for good. Ad dollars are different than support dollars.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
9. EXACTLY! Bringing up Maher is a distraction, formally known as a Tu Quoque fallacy.
Fri Mar 9, 2012, 02:52 PM
Mar 2012

I'm going to be bringing up Tu Quoque over and over and over again - that's what's necessary to get more people to understand the tactics of the right-wingers.

http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/ad-hominem-tu-quoque.html

Fallacy: Ad Hominem Tu Quoque

Also Known as: "You Too Fallacy"

Description of Ad Hominem Tu Quoque

This fallacy is committed when it is concluded that a person's claim is false because 1) it is inconsistent with something else a person has said or 2) what a person says is inconsistent with her actions. This type of "argument" has the following form:

Person A makes claim X.
Person B asserts that A's actions or past claims are inconsistent with the truth of claim X.
Therefore X is false.
The fact that a person makes inconsistent claims does not make any particular claim he makes false (although of any pair of inconsistent claims only one can be true - but both can be false). Also, the fact that a person's claims are not consistent with his actions might indicate that the person is a hypocrite but this does not prove his claims are false.


Besides, Maher's already been punished for his nasty remarks - he lost his show and got exiled to HBO.

EC

(12,287 posts)
3. The check has nothing to do with Obama.
Fri Mar 9, 2012, 01:42 PM
Mar 2012

It was given to his PAC - legally no connection. That's the way the repubs wanted it and that's the way it is. So, screw them.

Beacool

(30,251 posts)
4. We all know that Limbaugh is a misogynist creep, but so is Maher.
Fri Mar 9, 2012, 02:01 PM
Mar 2012

The conservatives do have a valid point when it comes to Maher. Sexism is sexism and it afflicts both sides of the political spectrum.

Limbaugh is vile; I don't think that anyone here would disagree. But, I think that Maher comes in a close second. Calling Palin the "C" word and Bachman a "twa*" is as inappropriate as Limbaugh calling Fluke a slut and a prostitute.

One of the most disappointing things of the last presidential campaign was that sexism on the left was as bad as on the right. The only difference was the hypocrisy of those who only condemned the right and gave the left a pass.

Can't have it both ways.


YellowRubberDuckie

(19,736 posts)
30. There are distinct difference between the two.
Sat Mar 10, 2012, 09:05 AM
Mar 2012

Maher admits that he is who he is. He admits he's an asshole, he admits he's narcissistic, and he is doing it all for laughs.
You will never hear Rush admit ANY of these things. He's so far up his own ass, if he were to open his mouth, you'd see his own NOSE! Maher doesn't hate women, though. I think it's more of a "I hate women who are fucking idiots" so to speak. And he'll tell you he slept with Ann Coulter and he'll tell you why. I think honesty is the difference between the two. But that's just my opinion. I really enjoyed Religulous. I'm a woman and he doesn't offend me.

YellowRubberDuckie

(19,736 posts)
42. I don't know for sure.
Sat Mar 10, 2012, 04:13 PM
Mar 2012

One night during the opening of his show on HBO he said something about her and then said, come on. She's a lot different when she's coming. So I think he banged her at the very least. They are friends, that much I know for sure. But I am friends with many people who do not share my political views.
Duckie

Beacool

(30,251 posts)
43. Well, the guy is gross.
Sat Mar 10, 2012, 07:52 PM
Mar 2012

That was a tacky remark. A man shouldn't brag about his sexual conquests, at least not in public.

SalviaBlue

(2,918 posts)
8. Lets treat Limbaugh and Maher equally.
Fri Mar 9, 2012, 02:50 PM
Mar 2012

Limbaugh should only appear on pay tv/radio... not on our free airwaves in every town in the country to the exclusion of any other point of view.

I cannot turn my local radio on and hear anything but dittoheads.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
10. +10
Fri Mar 9, 2012, 02:59 PM
Mar 2012

I don't have to tune into Maher on HBO or even subscribe to HBO if I find him objectionable. Yet, the radio stations with the best signals carry either Limbaugh or religious garbage, sometimes simultaneously on other stations in the same areas. You can't tune in any radio talk show stations without running into him, his clones or the Jesus crowd 24/7.

 

DutchLiberal

(5,744 posts)
11. I think Bill Maher is a great guy; a funny comedian; fighting for real liberal causes.
Fri Mar 9, 2012, 03:17 PM
Mar 2012

What I like best about him is that he often says thing we all know to be true, but are too afraid to say out loud because the PC police might catch us.

godai

(2,902 posts)
16. Some people who probably haven't seen him for 10 years have apparently banned him for life.
Fri Mar 9, 2012, 04:21 PM
Mar 2012

To compare Limbaugh and what he said to the no limits freedom of a comedian is beyond ridiculous.

Union Scribe

(7,099 posts)
46. Like "we all know" that OWS are "douchebags"?
Sun Mar 11, 2012, 12:11 AM
Mar 2012

That's really the guy you're throwing in with? The guy you want to praise for saying things you think are true but you can't say?

 

Zalatix

(8,994 posts)
12. What part of BOYCOTT THEM ALL does the "get off Maher's back" crowd NOT UNDERSTAND???
Fri Mar 9, 2012, 03:32 PM
Mar 2012

What is the problem with eliminating favoritism in going after anyone who spouts sexism on the airwaves?

Huh?

What is the problem with that? Can anyone explain the problem with that?

godai

(2,902 posts)
15. It's dilutes the efforts against Limbaugh.
Fri Mar 9, 2012, 04:19 PM
Mar 2012

Keep pushing Limbaugh=Maher=???? and the Limbaugh firestorm will be gone.

godai

(2,902 posts)
18. You are totally, absolutely wrong. And the facts bear this out.
Fri Mar 9, 2012, 05:27 PM
Mar 2012

Who brought up Maher and his $1M donation to Obama? The right wing, who hope to deflect and minimize focus on Limbaugh. Then, the Maher haters come out of the woodwork and promote Limbaugh=Maher. Thanks for nothing.

 

Zalatix

(8,994 posts)
21. You have no facts. Your argument has no rationality. You have no case.
Sat Mar 10, 2012, 03:24 AM
Mar 2012

You are either against people who spew sexist crap on the airwaves or you are for them. There is never any such thing as in-between.

Oh and going after ALL sexist offenders has never, ever hurt the cause.

Any more objections against going after ALL sexists? Or do you have a few more excuses and defenses for these losers? What's your agenda? Why are you trying to defend CERTAIN people who make these remarks?

Limbaugh is going down for good. Next is everyone else who pulls this crap.

Shankapotomus

(4,840 posts)
28. What is the cause, Evangelicalism?
Sat Mar 10, 2012, 06:55 AM
Mar 2012

Are you an evangelical? Because to boycott every comedian who says something "sexist" seems like something they would want.

 

Zalatix

(8,994 posts)
32. Evan-what? How about moral consistency. Oh wait, let me guess
Sat Mar 10, 2012, 09:33 AM
Mar 2012

sexism is okay as long as it's done by a "liberal".

godai

(2,902 posts)
33. I wrote facts, rationally, making a strong case. You just choose to disagree, angrily.
Sat Mar 10, 2012, 09:36 AM
Mar 2012

Don't watch Maher, but he's not going away. There are many bigger issues than words comedians use.

You sound like Bush, with the with us or against comments.

This ends my responses.

 

Zalatix

(8,994 posts)
35. You're okay with sexism as long as it comes from the Left. Gotcha.
Sat Mar 10, 2012, 09:40 AM
Mar 2012

Go ahead and call that a strong rational case.

Union Scribe

(7,099 posts)
47. No, what dillutes it is having to waste effort
Sun Mar 11, 2012, 12:12 AM
Mar 2012

defending Maher because some people aren't willing to be consistent.

 

DutchLiberal

(5,744 posts)
19. I can. One is a sickening misogynyst and the other is not.
Fri Mar 9, 2012, 06:34 PM
Mar 2012

Limbaugh has made a living out of demeaning and denigrating women on an almost daily basis for the past 15 years.

Maher has repeatedly stood up for womens' rights, both on his tv show and his stand-up routines. Not only for individual women who were the target of right-wing scum, like Hillary Clinton, Sherly Sherrod and Sonia Sotamayor; but also for all women, like when he defended womens' right to decide over their own reproductive system when the Republicans started their crusade against it.

And yes, occasionally Maher has made 'offensive' jokes about a woman/women. He did the same thing about men, by the way. Way more often. The difference is: when men are the target of his colorful, edgy humor, you never hear anybody complain. But make a joke about a woman, and everybody throws a fit. Some women feel they should be exempt of being made fun of.

Maher has also made occasional jokes about Asians ('bad drivers') and black people, but he draws on stereotypes that we already have ourselves, and that's what makes it funny. It doesn't make him a racist for drawing upon our stereotypes. I love it when his audience goes all "oooooh" and "aaaah" and starts to hiss. Some people are just too sensitive to handle anything.

 

Zalatix

(8,994 posts)
22. Yeah. I am probably the only DU member here who complains about attacks on men.
Sat Mar 10, 2012, 03:47 AM
Mar 2012

But misandry is for another day. Today the issue of misogyny is so huge and obvious that it has to be priority #1.

RadiationTherapy

(5,818 posts)
29. BAAAAHAhahahahahaahaha!! Far from it, dude, far from it.
Sat Mar 10, 2012, 07:55 AM
Mar 2012

I'm still laughing over here. Plenty of DU men are concerned about "attacks on men" (ahem) and bring the topic up regularly. Most often in the context of women's issues, strangely.

Union Scribe

(7,099 posts)
48. "stereotypes that we already have ourselves, and that's what makes it funny"
Sun Mar 11, 2012, 12:14 AM
Mar 2012

You might be revealing more about yourself than you want to be doing here...

Initech

(100,101 posts)
14. People here are falling for this BS too.
Fri Mar 9, 2012, 03:51 PM
Mar 2012

The GOP isn't happy about the Limbaugh backlash and they're trying to turn us against our own - I'm not buying it, that's exactly what they want. They'll get Maher off the air before we get Limbaugh, that's their strategy and it works every time.

 

Zalatix

(8,994 posts)
23. You tell 'em!!! Sexist remarks are okay as long as they're done by people on our side, dammit!
Sat Mar 10, 2012, 04:03 AM
Mar 2012

Initech

(100,101 posts)
39. No they aren't.
Sat Mar 10, 2012, 02:26 PM
Mar 2012

I really hate to agree with something that Limbaugh said but he's right when he said that gangsta rappers and comedians have got away with saying far worse things about women. This Maher thing is just a distraction for us and it is working in the GOP's favor.

countryjake

(8,554 posts)
26. Yup, news media has now shifted to key words "Hypocrisy & Double Standard"
Sat Mar 10, 2012, 04:41 AM
Mar 2012

rather than "disgusting Rush Limbaugh" which they were shouting from the rooftops all last week...thanks to the right-wing's craft of reframing this issue to beat us down. And it only took them one short week.

It's no wonder that the rights of women to control their own fertility continue to be under attack in this country.

applegrove

(118,777 posts)
20. The right wing just wanted to make an example out of Maher in case a trickle of
Sat Mar 10, 2012, 01:28 AM
Mar 2012

Million dollar public donations became a flood.

Blue_Roses

(12,894 posts)
25. I've been watching Bill Maher since PI and
Sat Mar 10, 2012, 04:22 AM
Mar 2012

then of course HBO. He hasn't always said things that I agreed with, but he doesn't put the little guy down like Rush does. Bill seems to at least have a heart under all that cynicism. Rush has a cold, ruthless heart.

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