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Arcanetrance

(2,670 posts)
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 11:57 AM Nov 2013

I think this guy has the wrong party

]Much like Batkid, Hawaii has found its own superhero. Except that instead of protecting the powerless from harm, he roams the streets with a sledgehammer and looks for homeless people in order to literally smash their possessions.
Remarkably, this vigilante isn’t just some random Hawaiian, but five-term State Rep. Tom Brower (D).
Noting that he’s “disgusted” with homeless people, Brower told the Honolulu Star-Advertiser about his own personal brand of “justice”: “If I see shopping carts that I can’t identify, I will destroy them so they can’t be pushed on the streets.” Brower has waged this campaign for two weeks, estimating that he’s smashed about 30 shopping carts in the process.


http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2013/11/19/2966371/hawaii-homeless-smash/
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I think this guy has the wrong party (Original Post) Arcanetrance Nov 2013 OP
Hawai'i Democratic Party should condemn the idiot and kick him out of the Party Buddha_of_Wisdom Nov 2013 #1
That's alot kinder than the things I'd like to do Arcanetrance Nov 2013 #3
what i'm thinking involves repurposing that sledgehammer frylock Nov 2013 #33
Why isn't the Party denouncing this jerk? Skidmore Nov 2013 #2
Definitely, he's in the wrong party MrScorpio Nov 2013 #4
or a poser. giftedgirl77 Nov 2013 #5
Either which way he's in need of someone taking the sledgehammer to him Arcanetrance Nov 2013 #6
True, that really is a dick move giftedgirl77 Nov 2013 #8
I can't even find the words to describe how angry and disgusted I am at this fucker Arcanetrance Nov 2013 #9
I don't understand how it's not a criminal offense? giftedgirl77 Nov 2013 #10
Its because his victims have no power($) in our current system... daleanime Nov 2013 #28
Therein lies the problem giftedgirl77 Nov 2013 #30
exactly...... daleanime Nov 2013 #35
Or an actual member of the Democratic party Capt. Obvious Nov 2013 #25
I read the entire story giftedgirl77 Nov 2013 #27
some vermin will manage to get under the flaps when you maintain that "big tent" mindset frylock Nov 2013 #34
Yeah, it's disgusting & very disturbing giftedgirl77 Nov 2013 #38
This message was self-deleted by its author giftedgirl77 Nov 2013 #7
Speechless fadedrose Nov 2013 #11
Recall how many Democratic mayors reacted to Occupy Fumesucker Nov 2013 #12
Yep. Authoritarian Illusions of Grandeur appears to be a prerequisite for many. nt adirondacker Nov 2013 #21
Very true that's why we have to force the Democratic party back to the left Arcanetrance Nov 2013 #22
I hope some stores send him the bills... Historic NY Nov 2013 #13
I hope this asshole ends up with a shopping cart wrapped around his head. Comrade Grumpy Nov 2013 #14
And here I thought Hawaii was one of the most tolerant places in the US. MicaelS Nov 2013 #15
It's because we've been bullshitted into believing that Arcanetrance Nov 2013 #16
Yes, that is exactly what we have all been taught. MicaelS Nov 2013 #17
Yep the american dream only applys to those already ahead in life and those that are sociopaths Arcanetrance Nov 2013 #20
That's criminal. Really...you can't destroy other peoples' stuff Maeve Nov 2013 #18
... Arugula Latte Nov 2013 #19
The right-wing rumor machine there tells people that all the homeless there Lydia Leftcoast Nov 2013 #23
Wait, you mean that's not true? Capt. Obvious Nov 2013 #26
It's against this site's policy to advocate violence FiveGoodMen Nov 2013 #24
Yeah I'll just say I'd like to replace the watermelon in gallaghers bit with this guys head Arcanetrance Nov 2013 #31
I am embarrassed to share a party with this guy. Shrike47 Nov 2013 #29
You and me both Arcanetrance Nov 2013 #32
Amen.... daleanime Nov 2013 #36
Rec'd...(Rep. Dem Tom Brower) fadedrose Nov 2013 #37
Agreed rock Nov 2013 #39
 

Buddha_of_Wisdom

(373 posts)
1. Hawai'i Democratic Party should condemn the idiot and kick him out of the Party
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 11:58 AM
Nov 2013

and disavowed his membership.

 

giftedgirl77

(4,713 posts)
8. True, that really is a dick move
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 12:04 PM
Nov 2013

All of their possessions are right there & destroys them just because. Somehow you'd think it was a crime.

 

giftedgirl77

(4,713 posts)
10. I don't understand how it's not a criminal offense?
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 12:33 PM
Nov 2013

Why isn't anyone taking action against him? It would be a very ugly situation for something like that to occur in the town that I live in. No matter how southern or ass backwards people want to say it is. They should still be treated with dignity & respect.

daleanime

(17,796 posts)
28. Its because his victims have no power($) in our current system...
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 01:34 PM
Nov 2013

so anything that happens to them doesn't matter.

 

giftedgirl77

(4,713 posts)
30. Therein lies the problem
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 01:41 PM
Nov 2013

I actually read in the article that to deal with the homeless problem they are attempting to allocate $100k to fly them anywhere they want to go. One way of course. WTF?

daleanime

(17,796 posts)
35. exactly......
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 01:53 PM
Nov 2013

rather spent the money to sent the 'problem' else wheres then do something positive. How can so many people without a heart kept walking.

 

giftedgirl77

(4,713 posts)
27. I read the entire story
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 01:33 PM
Nov 2013

That doesn't absolve him from clearly being unaware of what the party stands for or he a complete asshole which appears to be an issue in HI.

 

giftedgirl77

(4,713 posts)
38. Yeah, it's disgusting & very disturbing
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 02:18 PM
Nov 2013

I will never understand the lack of compassion ppl can have. But let someones dog take a shit on this guy's lawn or a kid ride their bike across it accidentally breaking a sprinkler & I bet you he would act like the world had just ended.

Response to Arcanetrance (Original post)

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
12. Recall how many Democratic mayors reacted to Occupy
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 12:48 PM
Nov 2013

Such as Oakland's Democratic mayor, Jean Quan.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Quan

At one time I would have thought this guy was in the wrong party, I'm really not so sure any more.

Arcanetrance

(2,670 posts)
22. Very true that's why we have to force the Democratic party back to the left
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 01:18 PM
Nov 2013

We need to end the choices between center corporate right and fucknuts right. The Democratic party needs to seperate and realign as a true alternative party for the blue collars out there.

Historic NY

(37,451 posts)
13. I hope some stores send him the bills...
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 12:53 PM
Nov 2013

each large shopping cart is worth about $160. They might be missing from the stores but in many places people are paid to eventually round them up.

MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
15. And here I thought Hawaii was one of the most tolerant places in the US.
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 12:57 PM
Nov 2013

Seems not.

It’s got the highest rate of homelessness in the country, but rather than build more shelters or offer more services for the poor, lawmakers approved $100,000 over the next two years to offer one-way flights off the islands to any of the state’s estimated 17,000 homeless persons.


Americans really hate poor people, not realizing they might be next.

Arcanetrance

(2,670 posts)
16. It's because we've been bullshitted into believing that
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 01:05 PM
Nov 2013

somehow if we work hard we all have the chance to strike it rich so obviously the poor just aren't trying

MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
17. Yes, that is exactly what we have all been taught.
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 01:07 PM
Nov 2013

Every since we were very young.

Of course it helps to get rich if you're a sociopath who doesn't give a flying fuck about anyone but yourself, and is willing to trample anyone or anything to get rich. And if you live to work, as in 16 hours a day for months on end.

Maeve

(42,283 posts)
18. That's criminal. Really...you can't destroy other peoples' stuff
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 01:10 PM
Nov 2013

He should be arrested. And kicked out of the party. And out of office.

Lydia Leftcoast

(48,217 posts)
23. The right-wing rumor machine there tells people that all the homeless there
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 01:24 PM
Nov 2013

are Mainlanders whose home states have given them one-way plane tickets.

I have a friend who retired to Hawaii and volunteers in a meal program for the homeless. He says that all the homeless people he encounters are what Islanders call "local," i.e. from Hawaii.

When I was there for a conference last summer, I saw a lot of homeless people on the street that runs along the beach at Waikiki, and nearly all of them appeared to be either Asian or Polynesian, which would make sense, given the demographics of Hawaii. A population of homeless people shipped out from the mainland would be predominantly white and African-American.

fadedrose

(10,044 posts)
37. Rec'd...(Rep. Dem Tom Brower)
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 01:57 PM
Nov 2013

just to help me remember his name when Congress has stuff going on.. I want to see this 5-termer from Hawaii on the tv....

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