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By Mark Blumenthal & Emily Swanson
November 20, 2013
The 2016 elections are still a long way off, but that hasn't stopped some pundits from urging Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren to challenge Hillary Clinton for the Democratic presidential nomination.
While neither Clinton nor Warren has announced her plans for 2016, a new HuffPost/YouGov poll found little evidence for one critical assumption behind the Warren boomlet: that potential Democratic primary voters supposedly perceive Clinton as too accommodating to Wall Street.
The poll found that among Americans who said they typically vote in Democratic primaries, just 20 percent believe a President Hillary Clinton "would be too accommodating to Wall Street and big banks," while more than twice as many (49 percent) think Clinton would "stand up to Wall Street and big banks." Nearly one-third (31 percent) said they were not sure.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/20/hillary-clinton-elizabeth-warren-poll_n_4305106.html
It is too soon to start the 2016 speculation and infighting. There will be plenty of time for candidates to announce after the 2014 midterm elections. In the meantime, the Democratic party is going to face an uphill battle next year, particularly if the glitches with the ACA do not get fixed and if not enough people sign up. These battles we are currently having are not productive and will not even matter if the party gets shellacked next November.
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)hasn't reached public awareness yet.
DURHAM D
(32,611 posts)TPP belongs to President Obama and while working for him she was dutiful in her job as SOS but by 2016 she will be four years removed from implementing his directives.
I think it is amusing that those upset with President Obama over this matter work hard to blame it on Hillary as if she was the President and not him. Serious disconnect...
Beacool
(30,251 posts)winter is coming
(11,785 posts)if the TPP passes. There's going to be plenty of outrage to go around on this one, and anyone remotely associated with it is likely to be blamed, for years to come.
DURHAM D
(32,611 posts)in the negotiations, passing, or implementation that is just silly.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)AFP and other winger attack ads on Clinton will expose her, not to the Republican base who were taught to hate her decades ago, but to the Democratic base, most of whom are unaware of her ties to Wall Street and WalMart.
Capt. Obvious
(9,002 posts)Beacool
(30,251 posts)I think that there will be several candidates running in 2016, but if Hillary does choose to run, I think that Liz will stick to her guns and not run. I don't see neither Biden nor Warren running against Hillary, if she runs. They respect and like each other. In Biden's case, they have been friends for years.
Capt. Obvious
(9,002 posts)That's why Biden didn't run in 2008.
Beacool
(30,251 posts)I like him, he's a decent man, but he did extremely poorly in his last two attempts. Aside from the fact that he's already in his 70s. It wouldn't be realistic for him to run.
Capt. Obvious
(9,002 posts)I think she should sit this one out and wait her turn.
It's Joe's time to be President.
Beacool
(30,251 posts)Biden barely garnered around 1% of the vote, Hillary missed the nomination by a hair. There's no comparison.
There's also no clamoring for a Biden run. The Democratic party will not nominate in 2016 a 74 year old man. There will be other more viable candidates in the running.
I think that Biden is a terrific person, but he's not going to be our nominee.
Capt. Obvious
(9,002 posts)Look, maybe Joe can tap her to be his Vice President.
Beacool
(30,251 posts)Capt. Obvious
(9,002 posts)Beacool
(30,251 posts)Capt. Obvious
(9,002 posts)We've never had a female VP.
Beacool
(30,251 posts)And it's bloody time that we have one.
Capt. Obvious
(9,002 posts)She has to wait her turn.
hfojvt
(37,573 posts)This time - it's personal.
Larkspur
(12,804 posts)if he uses the Presidential primary stage to promote progressive values that most Americans support.
It would push Hillary to the left and force her to make a public statement about income inequality and how Wall Street profits off of it.
Beacool
(30,251 posts)Although he stated that he wouldn't run as a "spoiler" and would only run if he thought that he had a chance of winning. Bernie I do se getting into the mix to stir things up.
I think that the decision to run (everybody, not just him) will depend on public opinion next year. If it looks like we won't have a chance in 2016, some may decide to sit it out.
cali
(114,904 posts)that she is up to her neck in Wall Street entanglements.
Laelth
(32,017 posts)As these graphics demonstrate:
If so, the electorate just needs to be educated. Sane and informed liberals are rightly concerned about Hillary's connections to Wall Street, and we think very highly of Elizabeth Warren.
-Laelth
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)of absolutely nothing.
Laelth
(32,017 posts)-Laelth
Laelth
(32,017 posts)I think the authors are misguided, mind you, but it was interesting, all the same.
While I'm here, let me offer the following:
Help encourage Elizabeth Warren to run for President in 2016 by writing to her or e-mailing her here:
The Honorable Elizabeth Warren
317 Hart Senate Office Building
Washington, DC 20510
Phone: (202) 224-4543
E-mail her here.
Donate here.
Add an Elizabeth Warren banner to your DU signature line here.
Beacool
(30,251 posts)No harm in expressing a preference for a politician. I still think that she meant what she said, but time will tell.
Laelth
(32,017 posts)That doesn't mean she can't change her mind. She's a politician, after all. She keeps her options open.
-Laelth
Gothmog
(145,553 posts)The article cited in the OP is a good article and has some interesting polling data in it.
I like Warren and gave her money in 2012 but I am going to wait until after 2014 before I worry about the nominee. I suspect that things will be clearer after the 2014 midterms. I am not convinced that Hillary Clinton is a horrible choice or that she would not stand up to Wall Street. I am also not convinced that Senator Warren could be a stronger candidate compared to Hillary Clinton in a general election and I seriously doubt that Senator Warren would be competitive in Texas. Texans like Hillary Clinton and I believe Hillary Clinton would have a far better chance in Texas and other states compared to Senator Warren
Beacool
(30,251 posts)First, and most important, if we don't get cracking working on the midterm elections we are going to get clobbered.
Second, because The New Republic notwithstanding, there doesn't seem to be at present a huge outcry across the party for a Warren nomination.
Third, it's too soon for these silly food fights. There'll be enough people who will make a decision about running in 2016 after the midterms, no need to start arguing right now.
Gothmog
(145,553 posts)I was agreeing with your position. I found the article to be very interesting
Beacool
(30,251 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)polichick
(37,152 posts)Just shut up and get busy you little worker bees.
LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)Are we to believe they don't want a return for their investment?