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Baitball Blogger

(46,757 posts)
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 02:21 PM Nov 2013

Who is interested in a Constitutional Forum or group on GD?

Last edited Thu Nov 21, 2013, 10:47 AM - Edit history (1)

The purpose of the new group is to provide a place to discuss the political differences between Republicans and Democrats based on the Constitution. For example, Republican policies tend to underplay the Fourteenth Amendment. If you look close enough you can see that their policies skirt around due diligence and equal protection requirements of the law. It is the only way they can stay ahead of the game.

This kind of information would be helpful in composing arguments that would counter their strategies. By keeping this information to one forum/group it would also become a resource.

Skinner said he would approve of the group if there was interest, so I am posting this as a poll to get your responses.


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Yes. I would be interested in a Constitutional forum.
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No. It's not necessary.
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Who is interested in a Constitutional Forum or group on GD? (Original Post) Baitball Blogger Nov 2013 OP
I'm not opposed to it, but I'd rather see such discussions happen MineralMan Nov 2013 #1
I was hoping to reach the next level of discussion. What you don't see a lot of on DU is actual Baitball Blogger Nov 2013 #2
OK. If there's enough support for the group, that'll be great. MineralMan Nov 2013 #3
Judging from what I'm seeing, there won't be. Baitball Blogger Nov 2013 #4
Discussion of Constitutional issues is difficult on DU MineralMan Nov 2013 #5
Some things are very obvious, however. Baitball Blogger Nov 2013 #8
I do not want to host but I agree with this thought process. Raine1967 Nov 2013 #6
It would certainly help find ammunition for our arguments. Baitball Blogger Nov 2013 #9
This has potential Capt. Obvious Nov 2013 #7
Thank you! Appreciate it. Baitball Blogger Nov 2013 #10
How much does it pay? RobertEarl Nov 2013 #11
I agree. Maybe no hosts will be needed. Baitball Blogger Nov 2013 #12
You're correct: Raine1967 Nov 2013 #13
Rotating hosts is always a good idea. Baitball Blogger Nov 2013 #15
Equality!! RobertEarl Nov 2013 #14
Happy to Host. nt msanthrope Nov 2013 #16

MineralMan

(146,329 posts)
1. I'm not opposed to it, but I'd rather see such discussions happen
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 03:07 PM
Nov 2013

in GD. Groups on DU generally don't get as many participants in discussions as threads in GD do. This topic seems like one that can benefit from plenty of participation in threads.

Just my opinion.

Baitball Blogger

(46,757 posts)
2. I was hoping to reach the next level of discussion. What you don't see a lot of on DU is actual
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 03:20 PM
Nov 2013

connection to Constitutional Law. It's a lot of opinion and links to support positions, but there's not a neat, organized place to find what you're looking for.

Baitball Blogger

(46,757 posts)
4. Judging from what I'm seeing, there won't be.
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 03:30 PM
Nov 2013

I can't believe the missed opportunity. The Republicans have a glaring gap in their political reasoning that no one seems to take advantage of.

MineralMan

(146,329 posts)
5. Discussion of Constitutional issues is difficult on DU
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 03:34 PM
Nov 2013

and elsewhere. The problem is that most people don't actually know the Constitution well as a document, and even fewer have information on the many, many SCOTUS decisions that have interpreted it.

That means that most discussions about the Constitution are marked by lots of uninformed opinions. I try to avoid Constitutional discussions on DU for that reason.

Sadly, for a founding document that is really quite simple in its composition, it has required constant interpretation by the SCOTUS, and people still don't agree on what it means in many cases. Add to that the dismal lack of knowledge about what is actually written in our Constitution and such discussions usually deteriorate into blather.

It's too bad, too.

Baitball Blogger

(46,757 posts)
8. Some things are very obvious, however.
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 03:39 PM
Nov 2013

While the Democrats were still in their civil stupor stage the Republicans were trying to repeal the Fourteenth Amendment. We can all agree that is one of their glaring weaknesses.

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
6. I do not want to host but I agree with this thought process.
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 03:37 PM
Nov 2013

I've never seen a specific group that discusses Constitutional law here on DU. Perhaps I missed it.

I for one would subscribe to a group like this. I could be a source of great information.

Baitball Blogger

(46,757 posts)
9. It would certainly help find ammunition for our arguments.
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 03:41 PM
Nov 2013

If the right think they're going to start a Constitutional Revival, the best thing we can do is bone up on the Constitution and be prepared for them.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
11. How much does it pay?
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 03:43 PM
Nov 2013

Instead of pay, can I become a dictator and ban whomever i want like some hosts do?

Or would that be unconstitutional?

Heh.

YES to a Constitution group. And if you have to have hosts, first have a clear SoP - Statement of Purpose, and hosts that rotate out of their dictatorial roles.

Doubt any hosts would be needed. And only if there were a 'Host' constitution that limited what hosts may do to their underlings.

Baitball Blogger

(46,757 posts)
12. I agree. Maybe no hosts will be needed.
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 03:45 PM
Nov 2013

I'm new at this so I don't know the exact procedure.

I suspect, however, that the group will be a magnet for Libertarians and right-wing Constitutional trolls.

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
13. You're correct:
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 03:54 PM
Nov 2013

it would be 'a magnet for Libertarians and right-wing Constitutional trolls.'

As thus I believe hosts would be needed. If people are concerned about power issues, (as te poster above mentioned) the SoP could possibly require a rotating host situation. I don't think that would be against the structure of DU3. (not a DU constitutional lawyer, btw)

Is there any rule against that set up n the hosting rules of DU?

Just curious: what is wrong with having hosts?

My answer: nothing -- especially if it keeps things from becoming libertarian land.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
14. Equality!!
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 03:55 PM
Nov 2013

If they are DUers who have gone through the wringer but are still able to hide their true evil, they will become exposed when presented with constitutional arguments. Usually they can do their hit and run acts in GD and escape scrutiny.

Bring 'em on!

Pin this question to the top:
Is the constitution of the United States of America the Beautiful, established to control the People?

Or is the constitution meant to control the government?

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