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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWould a **VERIFIED** deathbed confession from a 2nd gunman change anything?
In all seriousness, what would change if the legendary 2nd gunman were to confess at this point?
I have trouble believing that there would be any accountability at this late date, except perhaps for the confessed shooter himself.
Would there be any other impact, outside of historical curiosity?
[font color=red]Edited to alter the subject line to better reflect the intent of the question.[/font]
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)sharp_stick
(14,400 posts)that we never did land a man on the moon dammit.
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)Actually given how police have to contend with false confessions for other crimes, isn't it a bit of a wonder that no one has stepped forward claiming to be another shooter.
The first reaction would be that it's a false confession.
There would still be a lot to prove to confirm it, especially after 50 years. And the trail is pretty cold.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)defacto7
(13,485 posts)unless the person had unequivocal, substantiated information not before presented and it concurs with the setting and then the denial would be enormous. Otherwise, it's more hearsay for any number reasons. 2038.
duffyduff
(3,251 posts)All of the forensic technology today shows the bullets were fired from Oswald's rifle up on the sixth floor of the Book Depository.
I am truly astounded that anybody believes conspiracy theories these days. Thirty, forty, or fifty years ago, yes, but not anymore.
Orrex
(63,220 posts)The question was meant more for people who support any of the various conspiracy theories.
Aristus
(66,449 posts)The Kennedy conspiracy enthusiasts remind me of the Oxfordians, people who think that William Shakespeare didn't write the plays attributed to him, and that failure to give credit to some shadowy "other" who did write the plays is part of an elaborate consipiracy to rob the true playwright of his/her credit.
They ignore the available evidence that points toward Shakespeare, and focus instead on things for which there is no evidence; all the while rationalizing that "absence of evidence is not the same as evidence of absence".
For some unexplainable reason, JFK assassination conspiracy enthusiasts and Shakespeare authorship doubters have fixated on their delusions to the extend of it becoming part of their personal identity. And to give up their delusions would be tantamount to surrendering their identities.
Orrex
(63,220 posts)Funny that you should mention it!
thucythucy
(8,086 posts)It was Bill Shakespeare on the grassy knoll.
Pretzel_Warrior
(8,361 posts)And murder. So no....any supposed deathbed confession would be treated with all of the skepticism it would deserve.
get the red out
(13,468 posts)It would get no notice, seriously, it would be impossible for it to have any effect at this point. LOOK! THERE'S BLACK FRIDAY! LOOK! AMERICAN IDOL'S COMING ON. YEA, ANOTHER FEEL GOOD STORY ABOUT A DISABLED SOLDIER (that should have never had to go to war, but we can't notice that officially either).
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Orrex
(63,220 posts)quinnox
(20,600 posts)And it would be very embarrassing for the U.S. government. Because it would contradict what their official position has been for over 50 years. People would naturally start asking questions like, "Has the government been lying all this time, or are they just that incompetent?"
randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]TECT in the name of the Representative approves of this post.[/center][/font][hr]
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Would the person be a member of the CIA? Someone who simply helped in the planning? ect. Hard to answer without it happening. I do think it would be explosive if verifiable, know matter what the situation.
Pretzel_Warrior
(8,361 posts)Orrex
(63,220 posts)Why not cut to the chase and ask, ultimately, what's the difference?
Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)Octafish
(55,745 posts)That's what really happened. I believe it supports your hypothetical situation. War Inc will trample on to profit the few and enslave a planet.
petronius
(26,603 posts)of all the "I TOLD you so!!1!" posts, blogs, emails, etc.
And second, proponents every other CT theory or whacky notion - from Bigfoot to Moon bombing - would be invigorated beyond belief. So once the internet was rebuilt, it would promptly implode again.
Fortunately, the all-powerful cabal of the Illuminati/Space Alien/Indigo Children will keep the truth firmly under wraps...
MineralMan
(146,327 posts)There's your impact.
Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)death bed confessions are relevant in court of law?
I'm sure with me at my age it would
I don't expect a JFK insider would do this since they are dead now but I've seen others in govt on other instances where he must be considered.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)Otherwise, it's just somebody saying something. Or worse, someone claiming that someone said something before they died.
WilliamPitt
(58,179 posts)That being said, I strongly advise against holding your breath.
JimDandy
(7,318 posts)The "deathbed" scenario takes that out of the equation presumably so that we focus on what the OP intended.
WilliamPitt
(58,179 posts)My duh.
rug
(82,333 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)nt.
Posteritatis
(18,807 posts)If it was, say, Lee Harvey Oswald's childhood friend/drinking buddy/etc, that'd be one thing; if it was, say, Robert McNamara's son or a retired KGB colonel or Samuel Walton, that'd be something entirely different.
Warpy
(111,332 posts)released after his death would likely change a lot, at least regarding some very comfortable but erroneous assumptions people have made for many years.
None of the current conspiracy theories impresses me much. Having a posthumous memoir come out just might impress not only me but a lot of people.
JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)about Ioannides and Oswald, and those from Angleton, might do so. There is no reason left to be keeping any secrets about this case any more -- no reason, that is, if "Oswald acting alone murdered the president."
In fact, the millions of pages released through the ARRB have already changed things. Whatever was left of the official story is already demolished, and eventually the historical record, the one by people who don't feel an emotional stake in defending the myths of 1963 America, will reflect that.
Accountability? History still matters, even if the perps can't be brought to justice any more. The question is how much longer we will tolerate this aggressive empire that does no good for Americans, this constant rule by crisis and exception, this permanent war industry that eats the national surplus product, this deep state and its countless parapolitical tentacles, this intel-security complex that generates the very problems it purports to address? The truth about the November 1963 coup d'etat can be an important impulse toward ending all that, though there's no pretending it's a magic pill.
Eddie Haskell
(1,628 posts)In 1992, FBI agent Zack Shelton of the Beaumont FBI office gave Joe West a lead on James Files. On August 16 and 17, 1992, West visited Files in prison and got the first confession from Files. West died on February 13, 1993. On May 3, 1993, I visited James Files for the first time. A leading TV executive was with me as a witness. During that meeting, Files said that he fired a .222 casing from a modified Remington Fireball XP-100. He also said that we would know his shell if we ever found it for it had his teeth marks in it.
http://jfkmurdersolved.com/radtruth.htm
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)LOL! That tells us all we need to know. What was this...The Geraldo Show?
Eddie Haskell
(1,628 posts)You don't know nothin.
el_bryanto
(11,804 posts)and nobody should show any interest in this subject.
Bryant
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)Seriously Poppy, is there anything you'd like to tell us?
Zen Democrat
(5,901 posts)I think the patsy, Oswald, was going to be shot and killed by Officer Baker, but when Truly quickly ID'd him as an employee that blew it for the DPD because Oswald left then and there. Probably to meet an intelligence contact in the Texas Theater. Some believe that contact could have been Jack Ruby. Some people believe that Jack Ruby shot and killed Officer Tippit. It all happened in Ruby's neighborhood.
tblue37
(65,483 posts)all the birthers wanted? "Why won't he just release it if he has nothing to hide?" squawked Trump and other idiots.
Did the long form birth certificate convince any die-hard birthers?
Orrex
(63,220 posts)Obama probably was on the grassy knoll.
Bolo Boffin
(23,796 posts)The only area for a possible conspiracy is in Oswald's background. He was the only person shooting in Dealey Plaza that day.