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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsRush Limbaugh Scandal Proves Contagious for Talk Radio Advertisers
Ninety-eight major advertisersincluding Ford and Geicowill no longer air spots on Premiere Networks offensive programs. Insiders say the loss will rock right-wing talk radio.Rush Limbaugh made the right-wing talk-radio industry, and he just might break it.
Because now the fallout from the slut slurs against Sandra Fluke is extending to the entire political shock-jock genre.
Premiere Networks, which distributes Limbaugh as well as a host of other right-wing talkers, sent an email out to its affiliates early Friday listing 98 large corporations that have requested their ads appear only on programs free of content that you know are deemed to be offensive or controversial (for example, Mark Levin, Rush Limbaugh, Tom Leykis, Michael Savage, Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity).
This is big. According to the radio-industry website Radio-Info.com, which first posted excerpts of the Premiere memo, among the 98 companies that have decided to no longer sponsor these programs are carmakers (Ford, GM, Toyota), insurance companies (Allstate, Geico, Prudential, State Farm), and restaurants (McDonalds, Subway). Together, these talk-radio advertising staples represent millions of dollars in revenue.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/03/10/rush-limbaugh-scandal-proves-contagious-for-talk-radio-advertisers.html
niyad
(113,490 posts)too bad this didn't happen years ago.
DearAbby
(12,461 posts)Like with the telemarketers, they only have themselves to blame for this. Jeez I sounded like my mother....Oh gawd! I am channeling my Mother!?!
obxhead
(8,434 posts)These right wing jocks have been doing that since their first day on the air.
What has changed is the way that we, the consumers, can get in touch with these advertisers. Social media and email has let us have a voice that they never heard before.
The advertisers have a target audience. That target is people with money. Whats the point of targeting "15 million" hate radio listeners if you are going to alienate the other 285+ million people in the US doing it.
NBachers
(17,129 posts)There, I channeled her for you.
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)DearAbby
(12,461 posts)JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)That's our KPFK radio. There are other similar stations.
kentauros
(29,414 posts)Two are in California, one in Washington D.C., and one in NYC. They took a big chance setting up here but I'l be forever grateful being "exposed" to real Liberal Radio!
Now to get the CPB more funding...
Left Coast2020
(2,397 posts)....to undo the Communications Act of 96 (the bill Clinton signed into law) which allows owner to own multiple stations in a single market. I was so pissed when he signed that legislation. We could gain many progressive voices if there were several station owners(in a market) each programming something different. So I think we should (after the election) start lobbying Senators Sherrod Brown, Sanders, Boxer(my Senator), and Franken to propose undoing this horrible law. Just think of how wonderful it would be to hear a change on the air. I'll tell you all, this may be an opportunity for us people. Lets not F-it-up by sitting on our progressive asses doing nothing. Think of how it would affect the White House for the next four years. I'm telling ya, it could be an opening. Don't blink.
calimary
(81,382 posts)I wanna make sure EVERYBODY sees this thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002374653
How to fight back at the local radio, with insights from a former radio person. As one of those, myself, I can vouch for the good ideas in it. I have personally personally witnessed how effective these strategies can be.
And here's a link to register a complaint to Armed Forces Radio:
http://www.dma.mil/dma_contact.html
Now, the list of links expands, as does our overall mission.
certainot
6. and here are links to 76 universities that broadcast sports on 170 limbaugh stations
http://sites.google.com/site/universitiesforrushlimbaugh/
and another petition:
Chancellor of the University of North Carolina: Tell Tar Heel Sports Network affiliates to drop Rush Limbaugh
http://www.change.org/petitions/chancellor-of-the-university-of-north-carolina-tell-tar-heel-sports-network-affiliates-to-drop-rush-limbaugh
jmowreader
(50,561 posts)There needs also to be a limit on the total number of stations one company can own.
Easiest case: Clear Channel. They own (I looked this up) 850 radio stations. In Spokane, which is the closest Clear Channel city to me, they have six. (Since one broadcaster can own no more than a third of the stations in a market, six stations is probably an average Clear Channel footprint in any area.) If you told Clear Channel they could only own one station in Spokane, they could, and probably would, create five companies that work together in ways that won't raise the FCC's hackles, put each company in charge of one station per market, and still have one hell of a thing going.
I would say, no more than one each AM radio station, FM radio station, television station and newspaper in any one market and no more than 12 total "media outlets" per company.
RufusTFirefly
(8,812 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)bhikkhu
(10,720 posts)I've been avoiding any product associated with these asshats for years, and I always wondered what kind of corporate idiots would decide to subsidize such hateful and deceitful programming.
jillan
(39,451 posts)The haters all wanted their demise.
HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)They just say "I'll spend this much for that many spots" and the agency takes care of the details. What's happening is that they are instructing the agencies to avoid specific hate radio and TV slots. That's how we got Beckkk off the air.
GopperStopper2680
(397 posts)The pukes that listen to those shows are legion and they also tend to be the kinds of bloated, egotistical elitists that HAVE the money to buy a new car every year or two even in this economy. Makes financial sense to the car companies. Seems though that now they've kept throwing shit on top of the dunghill until it's starting to fall back off on them. Now that the horseshit's spilling out of the cart they want to step back so it doesn't get on THEM.
obxhead
(8,434 posts)Their lives are fueled on hate and they can't see past it to improve themselves.
LetTimmySmoke
(1,202 posts)stubtoe
(1,862 posts)Wonder what the Rushbots will have to say about all this.
GopperStopper2680
(397 posts)Yes it certainly did. And it's high time. It's been jerking them off for far too long.
Zalatix
(8,994 posts)we got the antimatter MIRV upgrade for free.
How long before Clearchannel feels the sting?
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)The portly drug addict was their cash cow and his income went *POOF*. Advertisers are starting to realize the cost of buying time on hate radio is far more than what they were paying and just isn't worth it. The smart thing for Clearchannel to do would have been to drop the drug addict as soon as they saw the winds of change coming, but they are hooked on Limbaugh like crack. So he may very well bring the whole fuckstick network down.
GopperStopper2680
(397 posts)I personally hope they keep the shit kicker right where he is. That way he can continue to twist the knife deeper and deeper into the guts of the beast. Eventually he'll win us all a devastating freedom for Democracy. Then maybe he can go pop some pills and swallow a hollow point.
certainot
(9,090 posts)take their sports off those stations-- i heard a university of colorado basketball game recently and in the break i heard "850 KOA. Home of the Buffs, and Rush Limbaugh!"
here's a list of 76 universities on 170 of his stations... https://sites.google.com/site/universitiesforrushlimbaugh/
and someone started a petition to get UNorth Carolina of 7 limbaugh stations- they've got over 900 sigs since saturday:
http://www.change.org/petitions/chancellor-of-the-university-of-north-carolina-tell-tar-heel-sports-network-affiliates-to-drop-rush-limbaugh
got a write-up here:
http://www.wral.com/news/state/nccapitol/blogpost/10822565/
GopperStopper2680
(397 posts)Certainot THANK YOU! Thank you for posting that link to the UNC petition against Limberger! I'm an NC resident and I am definitely going to burn that petition up. I'll fill it out so fast it'll throw sparks. UNC is one of the best school systems in the nation frankly, and I don't think it should be associated with a blood sucking, brain eating mutant parasite like Limberger.
certainot
(9,090 posts)Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)DFW
(54,415 posts)Maybe they can get the Kochs to finance them, and then run 24/7 commercial free.
SemperEadem
(8,053 posts)they will sink their money into hate radio, along with the "wholesome family values" businesses like ashleymadison and the bunnyranch, who have bought time on his show.
GopperStopper2680
(397 posts)Awe, the poor little darlings. Let's all go and feed them sympathetic tea and cookies. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! NOT!
eShirl
(18,495 posts)maybe they can get back to more music, or some kind of non-music programming that's not like a constantly-barking dog.
whathehell
(29,069 posts)sendero
(28,552 posts).... sometimes stuff just goes right.
I've been waiting for this, I've always wondered why a corporation would risk its image on these guys. Sure, most of their listeners actually agree with the crap things they say, but now guess what, non-listeners are finding out what is being said and they don't like it.
We can thank the internet for getting this utterance out into the real world where sane people can judge for themselves if this hateful spew has any redeeming political speech qualities. In this case it did not and everyone can see that.
Let's hope these guys become commercial pariahs.
babylonsister
(171,076 posts)ca3799
(71 posts)Remember when AM radio was full of talk shows that were useful? I remember shows like the consumer advocate where he would advise you on how to get a good deal on a car, or how to get a refund from a bad business deal. There were financial planners, and even sex therapists (Dr Ruth!). You can still get a garden show and a home handy-man show, but just on the weekends.
Somehow the righties got a hold of all the channels and turned them into nearly 24-7 propaganda stations.
I have sent my station email lamenting the loss of those old programs and complaining about the all-right-wing-politics-qll-the-time format. You should sent a similar email. Not only could we finally get rid of the hate-mongers, but we could get something interesting and useful.
BumRushDaShow
(129,228 posts)For 30 years, I used to listen to Ralph Snodsmith do his Garden Show from 8am - 10am every Sunday morning on WOR 710 in NY. After he died a few years ago, he was replaced by an equally interesting garden host whose family had been in the business for 3 generations (Mark Viette).
And then suddenly last fall, WOR decided to take an hour of that away to put on Monkey boy (David Gregory) to simulcast Meet the Press.
If I wanted to watch Meet the Press, I'd turn on the damn TV. I don't give a crap about him. I want the Gardening shows!
I really really do miss the "over the back fence" local talk radio that the RW lunatics have hijacked. They dropped entire linelups because after they bought all these stations, they know that syndicating RW hate radio is cheaper than working out a contract with a local jock.
bitchkitty
(7,349 posts)RebelOne
(30,947 posts)He is the ultimate consumer guru, no matter his political leanings.
bitchkitty
(7,349 posts)but I liked his radio show.
usrname
(398 posts)used to be local news talk with local-related talk topics. (The only non-local was Bill Brinker, Dr Dean Edell and Tech Talk on Saturdays.) Then they screwed the pooch and fired all their talk personalities except for Ronn Owens.
47of74
(18,470 posts)We have two main AM stations in Dubuque: KDTH and WDBQ-AM.
At one time many years WDBQ was a rock/oldies format. That was my station of choice because my very first car just had AM radio. (I didn't feel the need to upgrade because I wasn't big into music back then). And that was before the fat ass perverted drug addict got his hooks into the station. Over time it was bought out by Cumulus Media. In the early 90s Paul Hemmer jumped ship after over 20 years at the station and founded his own station. A number of the WDBQ on air staff followed him within a couple years. It sounds to me now like they all saw the writing on the wall and either got out or were pushed out then. Now in addition to Rush has Michael Smerconish, Laura Ingraham, Sean Hannity and Fred Thompson. I don't even have the station saved as a favorite on my car radio anymore, and I mainly have Sirius on most of the time.
KDTH however never got into the right wing talk model. It was owned by the Telegraph Herald before being purchased by Hemmer's radio group. It still has a full time news department, sports director, farm director and a staff of local personalities. They have a oldies / big band format along with some talk shows where they talk farming or other topics of local interest. I remember one time they talked about a group that set up a data center in a former US Government underground bunker. They have a trading post show where people call in Saturday mornings to buy or sell items. KDTH is now my parent's station of choice, it's on most mornings in the house and it's the one they listen to for the noon news.
rdking647
(5,113 posts)nope...
hopefully the pig as put a bullet in right wing radio.
GopperStopper2680
(397 posts)In himself! AHAHAHAH! No sympathy for Wrong-Wing poppinjays!
malaise
(269,103 posts)justgamma
(3,666 posts)Thom was saying that many of those advertisers also do ads on left radio and they could decide to pull ads from all of talk radio. I hope that they recognize the difference between hate radio and opinion radio.
nenagh
(1,925 posts)I protested that Limbaugh solicited a sex tape 'so we all can watch' on the public airwaves.
That despicable statement goes well beyond 'name calling'.. and I hope advertisers see the difference.
GopperStopper2680
(397 posts)98 major corporations are pulling their support out from under him. Now if only Bill O'Reilly, Anne Coulter, Don Imus, Michael Savage, Glen Beck........
freshwest
(53,661 posts)He sicked up an incredible amount of his own sleaziness, just really let it all out, he was on a roll there.
In years past, he sounded like he was on the last stage of a drunken tantrum on most shows, even before he was found to be using hillybilly heroin. His listeners didn't catch on to his condition, didn't notice him slurring his speech.
If Conservatives ever want to be taken seriously again, they have to lay off the sex-driven attack machine. Actually learn to talk and work on solutions that work for everyone, not just their pals.
ca3799
(71 posts)There is no 'left' radio.
(sorry- newis here- post in wrong place..)
Herlong
(649 posts)Randi Rhodes, Thom Hartmann, Cenk(Young Turks online), Ed Shultz, Bill Press, Alan Colmes, Mike Mallow to name a few.
What stations are they on? Am or FM?
efhmc
(14,731 posts)lillypaddle
(9,581 posts)from Portland, Chicago, and Seattle. I switch around, depending on who I want to hear.
Lefty talk was a hard fought battle. Google the telecommunications act of 1996.
efhmc
(14,731 posts)About half of my week, that is not the case.
Herlong
(649 posts)There was a time we could only hear Rush Limbaugh and country music! I'm having a party now!
Overseas
(12,121 posts)nxylas
(6,440 posts)The reich-wing is probably trawling through his tapes as I write, looking for some quotes totake out of context in order to manufacture outrage againat him. The end result could have a chilling effect across the whole of news media, where everyone is so scared of controversy that the only thing they're allowed to talk about is Kardashians.
alp227
(32,038 posts)MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)Thank goodness!
tsuki
(11,994 posts)MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)At the very least it's free publicity for Limbaugh.
tsuki
(11,994 posts)we were overseas, most of the TV shows were donated. That is why I loved Perry Mason. I assumed the radio shows were also.
We used to get Fibber McGee & Molly, The Shadow, and the one with the creaking door whose name I can not remember. Oh yeah, The Inner Sanctum. Rock and Roll was limited to an hour a day.
unionworks
(3,574 posts)The airwaves belong to the people!
ca3799
(71 posts)Last edited Sat Mar 10, 2012, 11:17 AM - Edit history (1)
Let's use the momentum by contacting your local AM station and letting them know you are sick of the all-right-wing-all-the-time-political shows. They are unusually receptive to customer opinion right now. They know what you don't like. Now, let them know what you do want to hear.
Just Google your local AM station, click the "contact us" link and drop them a note. I want to hear a consumer advocate show, ask-the-lawyer legal line, and I really miss Dr Ruth Westheimer's sex and relationship show. I also miss the crazy, old Art Bell show (LOL- 'Call this line if you have had sex with an alien. Call this line if you area time traveller.')
sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)Iliyah
(25,111 posts)hateful, which I believe are causing so much venon in the American society right now. These talk raio host hide behind the Bible, God/Jesus, and the almighty gun.
Actually, Jesus would be considered a liberal, image that, and would be trashed wholeheartly by these hateful people.
RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)the end of Right Wing Hate Radio.
Next victim- Fox Propaganda!
NCcoast
(480 posts)I think he's going to be looking at jail time in the UK and there's a shareholder revolt going on in News Corp and Rupert's in his 80's. We're looking at the long awaited debacle of the right wing propaganda machine.
HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)GopperStopper2680
(397 posts)And bullshit walks. And hopefully Limberger will walk with it-right out the door into unemployment. Let's see how well he does when he spouts that claptrap of his at his local Employment Security Commission. I would love to bet that a waiting room full of bored, pissed off, disaffected unemployed Americans would just LOVE to have a chat with him. (especially since he's part of the reason they're sitting there.)
HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)He's revolting and doesn't even attempt to hide his bigotry and disdain for women.
Julian Englis
(2,309 posts)Remember the past: Allstate, State Farm, McDonalds, and others requested that their commercials not air on ANY Air America broadcast. Perhaps what's good for the goose is sauce for the gander.
railsback
(1,881 posts)According to the NY Times, it wasn't a lack of listenership that took down Air America. It was the lack of advertisers, who targeted Air America, who they deemed 'unpatriotic' and unsupportive of Bush's illegal wars. Now the war has shifted to a war on women, the largest consumer demographic, and they want no part of that, either. So this is actually great news for America, and really, really bad news for Rightwing Hate Radio.
tridim
(45,358 posts)But the more I think about it, the more it makes perfect sense.
Falls don't get much bigger than Limbaugh.
LAGC
(5,330 posts)davidpdx
(22,000 posts)8.0 or larger....
Cal33
(7,018 posts)the right-wing propaganda and lying machine is beginning to break down somewhat.
There's still a long way to go. The amount of harm they've done to our nation!
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)LunaBeck, Rushbo & Loosecannon. What a trio.
Doremus
(7,261 posts)GopperStopper2680
(397 posts)Like I keep saying in my other posts they're pulling in rope by the bushells and pretty soon they'll have enough to hang the entire Wrong Wing party. Then we can all light bonfires and have us a big old weenie roast and toast marshmellows while we watch them kick and strangle.
Goodbye GOP...you will NOT be missed.
Pisces
(5,599 posts)whathehell
(29,069 posts)was prohibited didn't exist on the national level, at least.
pwb
(11,280 posts)Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)Ad pulls brought down Air America. If they decide that people like Cenk, Thom Hartmann, Stephanie Miller, Mike Malloy (etc) are "offensive or controversial", then it is going to lead to some dead air on the other side of the fence.
GopperStopper2680
(397 posts)Others will just have to learn from their mistakes.
War Pigs
(252 posts)our are not
Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)But that doesn't apply to this here situation!!
"What we've got here is, failure to communicate. Some men, you just can't reach." ~ Cool Hand Luke
SCVDem
(5,103 posts)That criteria eliminates right wing hate radio and Fox as propaganda spewing liars.
Very few mainstream liberal or progressive stations have a problem with this as I often hear corrections of things they incorrectly represented.
Finally, let's not underestimate the power of the women who have finally found their voice through various means including social networking and elected office. How many of these women and wives have simply stopped having any sexual relations with the dominating men who are legislating and grandstanding their individual rights away.
Do all these men really want babies? No more fun f*cking, I'm off birth control because of you and I CHOOSE not to be pregnant!
Now let's talk about all this hate filled, anti womens health care legislation.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)loudsue
(14,087 posts)Hate is bad for the economy, bad for families, bad for education, bad for everything and everybody.
2banon
(7,321 posts)I have a nagging intuition that we're claiming victory a bit prematurely..
I hope I'm wrong!!!
quaker bill
(8,224 posts)These companies are not really into pushing a public political agenda. What they do backstage is another matter and not relevant to this action.
For a long time they felt that they could fairly mindlessly toss ad money at anything with good ratings for their target demographic. Because of Rush being a catalyst, they are coming to understand that sponsoring certain content may really irritate a significant portion of their customers. Advertising only works marginally to drive sales. If part of that margin is lost to folks so angry that they "will never shop there again", the whole thing becomes at most waste of money, or perhaps worse yet, has a negative impact.
There are lots of options of places to run ads. There is a political battle royale shaping up. These guys simply do not want their products in the middle of the pending fracas. They probably would pull their money from left talk radio as well, if it really existed and they were sponsoring it. Since it largely doesn't and they aren't, no problem.
GopperStopper2680
(397 posts)You're quite right about corporations alienating their potential consumer base. That is in quintescence, corporate suicide. I am old enough to remember (and sadly this tips my hand as to just how OLD I am) when the game systems Sega Genesis and Turbografix first appeared for sale on the US market. They both favored aggressive, in-your-face ad campaigns that jeered at the fans of other popular game systems at the time such as NES (Nintendo). I clearly recall that Sega's tag line was 'Are you one of us, or one of them?' Well, what they came to find out was that the 'them' (NES fans like myself) were already deeply entrenched in the US market. Nintendo had already established a large and loyal fanbase in the US by the time the other two systems came onto the market and their smear campaigns of NES fans turned out to be a bacchinal of professional throat-cutting. You hear very little from Sega these days and NOTHING from NEC-the parent company of Turbografix. I think NEC still continues to manufacture integrated circuits and such and Sega makes a few games but neither system is any longer a force to be reconned with in the game world. Now-history does indeed repeat itself and it would be wise for these financiers to learn from past mistakes lest they too take the same dark path to self oblivion.
FailureToCommunicate
(14,018 posts)has made advertising on Right OR Left wing radio somewhat less important for big corps?
AtroposCutter
(2 posts)Hello DU! Greetings from Melbourne FL! I have lurked for many years and finally opened an account because this Limbaugh thing has me really furious (not that I wasn't already furious with him for trashing the national discourse).
On Sunday March 4, I posted a White House petition to FLUSH RUSH from Armed Forces Radio.
Why should Limbaugh have the opportunity to indoctrinate our young troopers as hes done to so many of our friends and relatives? Why should our soldiers while theyre on the job -- have to listen to this hatemonger denigrate their Commander-in-Chief? And Limbaugh does HATE everything, women in particular.
The petition has garnered just under 20,000+ signatures in just 6 days! It needs 25,000 total to have action taken. Would you kindly help out and sign? You do have to open an account at the White House petition site. Thanks and kindest regards. Solidarity.
https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions/!/petition/sec-panetta-get-rush-limbaugh-armed-forces-radio-now-no-tax-money-abusive-divisive-insulting/p439GWMm
GopperStopper2680
(397 posts)Atropos...I think The Limberger hates itself. No self respecting individual would sit in front of a mike broadcasting to millions of listeners and openly put himself in front of the gun like that. It really is a very sobering lesson in the self delusion of the Gopps that they miss the reality of the consequences of their actions when they spread broad ranging and generalized hate.
Casandia
(652 posts)I signed this petition a few days ago - I was # 842 I think. I am very impressed by the number of signatures so far - let's keep this going!
War Pigs
(252 posts)GopperStopper2680
(397 posts)Well old Limberger's finally stepped in the shit big this time around hasn't he folks? Looks like the parasite's finally offended its host badly enough to cause it to spasm hard enough to crap it out. Personally I hope this causes the sanctimonious popinjay to dry up and crumble away in the wind. Probably he won't but still-it's got to be a message he's getting. Now let's see if the fat tapeworm can interpret the language of reality.
Taverner
(55,476 posts)Whole songs, not snippets so he doesn't have to pay royalties...
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)Why don't see how much they back off/clean it up/stop lying over the next 8 months, before celebrating? The dailybeast is notoriously starry-eyed
Turbineguy
(37,359 posts)Santorum won the Kansas caucuses by a wide margin. That tells me that The Stupid is pretty firmly intrenched. Limbaugh might become a liability.
War Pigs
(252 posts)Paka
(2,760 posts)Nothing more than they all deserve.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)actually get somewhere.
They probably read the transcript of Sandra Fluke's testimony and then Limbaughs comments about that testimony.
And if you are facing Limbaughphytes at the water cooler, I suggest you read the transcript of her testimony also and then read or listen to Limbaugh's comments about it.
I think you can find those items on DU somewhere. Sorry I don't have a link.
get the red out
(13,468 posts)RW radio is a huge propaganda/hate/lie machine. This is huge for the country.
One thing that happened recently in my area on the local Clear Channel station is that a local sports show was put in the slot right before Limbaugh. In my mind this is a big deal, though I don't think many around here really thought about it this way. It has been since before 911 that anything but some kind of hate talker was on during the day, with sports relegated to the evenings. Anything is better than hate talk, ANYTHING.
Devil_Fish
(1,664 posts)How about we take it one step further and target all right wing-nut radio. TV should be next. how about we start with faux snooze?
penndragon69
(788 posts)it tolls for THEE.....RW hate mongers.
dwig3d
(22 posts)Satan drops Rush from Hell
Guilded Lilly
(5,591 posts)you will know where the slaaaaaap came from
Reap what you sow, Jerks, reap what you sow.
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)mikeargo
(675 posts)Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)Historic NY
(37,452 posts)in the wallet.
craigmatic
(4,510 posts)It's finally over folks.
benld74
(9,908 posts)found on the wrong side of the tracks.
Skittles
(153,170 posts)seriously
golfguru
(4,987 posts)are actually off the air and for good. Until then it is all conjecture.
Uncle Joe
(58,378 posts)Thanks for the thread, DearAbby.
ElboRuum
(4,717 posts)allan01
(1,950 posts)Jennicut
(25,415 posts)And it is more men. Older, white men. The Repubs are going to eventually lose listeners anyway. Its going to start dying out because the people that listen to this crap are going to die off.
ElboRuum
(4,717 posts)Time to realize that making money off of this kind of unvarnished hate and loathing isn't just really tacky and unethical, it's also BAD BUSINESS.
KCPhelps
(1 post)Hi, I've signed petitions and called ClearChannel to try and hurt him financially. I'm just wondering if the Koch boys are going to fill in for any lost ad revenue.
SusanaMontana41
(3,233 posts)Prosecute the latter, and answer offensive speech with better speech ... after all, who defines "offensive"? The left? The right? As soon as we open our mouths we offend someone.
Equating offensive speech with slander is a slippery slope.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)When you get right down to it, it's the people who tune in that keeps these programs on the air. They'll still be here even if Limbaugh fades because of lack of advertising revenue. Those potential listeners will find other ways to get a dose of hatred.
nxylas
(6,440 posts)On some low-power AM station in the middle of the night, the way it used to be before Limbaugh made far-right hate speech mainstream.
sdfwefwe
(5 posts)nolabels
(13,133 posts)Technology is a force we all will have to reconcile with in one way or another
KharmaTrain
(31,706 posts)While there's been a fallout on the national level, I haven't seen it drop to the local level. When rushbo cites the 18,000 advertisers...he's "stretching" things (as usual) but not by much. He's refering to the 30 or so avails or :30 second commercial slots set aside for the 600 local affiliates to sell during or around the breaks in his show. I tuned into the Chicago affiliate and heard plenty of commercials during the local break including one for a business that promoted how they "supported Rush". Those dollars keep the local stations afloat who inturn pay fees to Premiere and rushbo gets a piece of that action. The 98 or whatever number of lost advertisers are for the avails that Premiere keeps for itself...and it is a big loss but not enough to force rushbo from the airwaves...his affiliates still are making their money.
Right wing hate radio is in its death throes...the People Meter system now used by Arbitron is not kind to those stations and rushbo's ratings are far less than what the "experts" had thought and they keep shrinking. Rushbo also faces a competitor in Mike Hucklenutz whose boasses, Cumulus, own some of rushbo's biggest stations (including WABC, WLS and KSFO)...methinks a lot of rushbo's game here is to draw a lot of attention in attempts to pump up the sagging ratings and force loyalty among his affiliates.
The very "deregulation" rushbo championed and made him filthy rich will be his undoing as Internet and satellite radio make AM and FM radio obsolete...