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kentuck

(111,110 posts)
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 03:32 PM Nov 2013

You Probably Didn’t Hear About The Most Important Health Care News This Week

http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/11/22/2983481/media-historic-slowdown-health-spending/

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On Wednesday, the new head of the White House Council of Economic Advisers released a bombshell report finding that U.S. health care spending since 2010 has increased by just 1.3 percent — the smallest cost growth over a three-year period in American history — while prices in the health care sector rose by 50-year lows, thanks in part to structural changes made by the Affordable Care Act. But most media outlets ignored that story, instead choosing to focus on ongoing glitches with the Healthcare.gov website.

According to a ThinkProgress analysis, English-language online and print media published about ten times as many pieces on the troubles with the Obamacare site than they did on the new health care spending report:




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Regardless, the record slowdown is one of the most important economic developments of the decade, and has huge ramifications for the fiscal viability of major programs like Medicare and Medicaid. In fact, the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) has already cut its projections for Medicare and Medicaid’s price tag in 2020 by $147 billion — a 10 percent reduction from previous estimates.


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You Probably Didn’t Hear About The Most Important Health Care News This Week (Original Post) kentuck Nov 2013 OP
Thumbs up for that report. Also: California is signing up 10,000 PER DAY to the ACA. Hekate Nov 2013 #1
I'm in CA ailsagirl Nov 2013 #4
Perhaps you could expand on those obstacles. Live and Learn Nov 2013 #5
I have zero income because I'm going to school ailsagirl Nov 2013 #9
What is wrong with that? Live and Learn Nov 2013 #11
Nothing ailsagirl Dec 2013 #21
Los Angeles Times gives the figure I cited. Keep trying; 9,999 people are in line with you... Hekate Nov 2013 #7
Hope so! I'd love to get this straightened out ailsagirl Nov 2013 #10
If you have zero income, you don't qualify for subsidies Live and Learn Nov 2013 #12
? Bigredhunk Nov 2013 #14
That use to be the case. Live and Learn Nov 2013 #15
Interesting Bigredhunk Nov 2013 #16
You don't have to have any income or dependents. pnwmom Nov 2013 #18
And the right has nerve enough to call it a liberal media liberal N proud Nov 2013 #2
They've been repeating "liberal media" for 40 years now NewJeffCT Nov 2013 #6
Rachel needs to get all over this...and Jon Stewart.... loudsue Nov 2013 #3
TRENDS IN HEALTH CARE COST GROWTH AND THE ROLE OF THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT FarCenter Nov 2013 #8
The fact is..... cynzke Nov 2013 #13
If "many" have their premiums increase because of expanded coverage, pnwmom Nov 2013 #19
+1 nt Live and Learn Nov 2013 #20
and then there's the removal of chemical weapons from Syria mountain grammy Nov 2013 #17

Hekate

(90,837 posts)
1. Thumbs up for that report. Also: California is signing up 10,000 PER DAY to the ACA.
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 03:34 PM
Nov 2013

Just goes to show you what can be done when the governor supports the plan instead of working to sabotage it.

ailsagirl

(22,899 posts)
4. I'm in CA
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 05:49 PM
Nov 2013

and desperately trying to officially be accepted, but am running into obstacles. Gee... what a surprise.

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
5. Perhaps you could expand on those obstacles.
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 06:00 PM
Nov 2013

As far as I know, Covered California is working beautifully.

ailsagirl

(22,899 posts)
9. I have zero income because I'm going to school
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 06:24 PM
Nov 2013

Last edited Fri Nov 22, 2013, 07:41 PM - Edit history (1)

I guess that means I qualify for Medicaid only.

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
11. What is wrong with that?
Sat Nov 23, 2013, 02:11 AM
Nov 2013

That is exactly what Single Payer would be. It includes no deductibles, no premiums and no caps. You should be ecstatic! I would be.

Hekate

(90,837 posts)
7. Los Angeles Times gives the figure I cited. Keep trying; 9,999 people are in line with you...
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 06:19 PM
Nov 2013

... on any given day, and apparently getting through. Or maybe there are 11,000 people trying on any given day, and "only" 10,000 get through that day. Those are pretty big numbers that are successful -- you're bound to be one of them soon.

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
12. If you have zero income, you don't qualify for subsidies
Sat Nov 23, 2013, 02:16 AM
Nov 2013

because you won't be paying anything. So forget Covered California. Instead, you will get free Medi-Cal. Here is how you apply for Medi-Cal: http://www.dhcs.ca.gov/services/medi-cal/Pages/ApplyforMedi-Cal.aspx

Edited to add: Medi-Cal is the California version of medicaid.

And be sure to spread the word to fellow students. This is a great deal for all of them.

Bigredhunk

(1,351 posts)
14. ?
Sat Nov 23, 2013, 07:01 PM
Nov 2013

I thought Medicaid (and like programs) were only for people who worked (but made very little) and/or had dependents(?) Single people with no children who don't work can get Medicaid? Single people with no children who don't work and take college classes can get Medicaid?

I guess I've never understood how Medicaid and food stamps (etc…) work.

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
15. That use to be the case.
Sat Nov 23, 2013, 07:10 PM
Nov 2013

The Affordable Care Act opened medicaid up to everyone under a certain income in those states that agreed to implement it. I am not sure why this information hasn't gotten out to people since it is one of the most wonderful parts of the act.


Eligibility

The Affordable Care Act fills in current gaps in coverage for the poorest Americans by creating a minimum Medicaid income eligibility level across the country. Beginning in January 2014, individuals under 65 years of age with income below 133 percent of the federal poverty level (FPL) will be eligible for Medicaid. For the first time, low-income adults without children will be guaranteed coverage through Medicaid in every state without need for a waiver, and parents of children will be eligible at a uniform income level across all states. Medicaid and Children's Health Insurance Program (CHIP) eligibility and enrollment will be much simpler and will be coordinated with the newly created Affordable Insurance Exchanges.


http://www.medicaid.gov/AffordableCareAct/Provisions/Eligibility.html

Bigredhunk

(1,351 posts)
16. Interesting
Sat Nov 23, 2013, 09:15 PM
Nov 2013

I assumed you still had to have a job (some income). I didn't know that part changed.

edit: And as to why the info hasn't gotten out...that's not the media's job. Their job is to push talking points ("Obama's Katrina&quot and sensationalism. What, you think it's the media's job to inform people??

pnwmom

(108,997 posts)
18. You don't have to have any income or dependents.
Sun Nov 24, 2013, 07:45 PM
Nov 2013

But you do have to live in one of the states that accepted the expansion, unfortunately.

NewJeffCT

(56,829 posts)
6. They've been repeating "liberal media" for 40 years now
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 06:11 PM
Nov 2013

so often and so frequently that almost all of the RWers believe it, and many others do as well.

loudsue

(14,087 posts)
3. Rachel needs to get all over this...and Jon Stewart....
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 03:56 PM
Nov 2013

they are the only voices that get the real truth out there.

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
8. TRENDS IN HEALTH CARE COST GROWTH AND THE ROLE OF THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 06:19 PM
Nov 2013
http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/docs/healthcostreport_final_noembargo_v2.pdf

See Table 1 and Figure 3. Costs have been held down the most for Medicare and Medicaid spending. Many prescription drugs going off patent has restrained drug costs.

cynzke

(1,254 posts)
13. The fact is.....
Sat Nov 23, 2013, 11:44 AM
Nov 2013

for many premiums are going to increase under ACA due to the expanded coverages, but the indications are ACA is slowing down the raise in health care costs and eventually start to reduce the cost of insurance. The raising costs are due primarily to the raise in chronic illnesses. One of the reasons our health care system is overwhelmed and failing is due to the fact that we only react to the problem....focus on the outcome of chronic illness, i.e. surgery, hospitalization and expensive drug treatments. Like skipping those oil changes and tune ups for your car, then paying substantially more for repairs to your damaged engine. Most chronic illness is preventable and we must stop reacting and start acting...devote more time, energy and money into keeping people healthy. ACA tries to address that with the preventive coverages and there is a cost for that. I wish we would see more discussion/explanation about this. Its unfortunate that ACA has been over hyped as the panacea...an affordable and instant cure to our health care problems. It brings about major improvements, but also at first...an increase is cost for many and these people just don't understand why that is necessary. They don't understand the big picture and don't have patience to wait for those economic benefits.

pnwmom

(108,997 posts)
19. If "many" have their premiums increase because of expanded coverage,
Sun Nov 24, 2013, 07:47 PM
Nov 2013

that will be because "many" have been throwing their money away on junk policies that would turn out to be almost worthless if they actually needed coverage.

mountain grammy

(26,656 posts)
17. and then there's the removal of chemical weapons from Syria
Sun Nov 24, 2013, 11:37 AM
Nov 2013

and the new deal with Iran. But, what's important here are the Obamacare glitches and FREEDOM!

Mainstream "news" is a waste of time! They've all been "out foxed."

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